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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:37 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Oddity with FFA Reply with quote

Hi all,

For the most part, we are finding that Fax for Asterisk works pretty
well. However, we have seen some wierdness that we'd like to try to
fix.

Once in a while, we will get a partial result report for a given fax
but when we look at the actual .tiff image, it looks to be complete.
This is causing our users to not get a positive acknowledgement when
they send the fax.

Is there anything we can do to mitigate this?

Mike.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:50 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Oddity with FFA Reply with quote

On 03/11/2014 12:36 AM, Mike Diehl wrote:
Quote:
Hi all,

For the most part, we are finding that Fax for Asterisk works pretty
well. However, we have seen some wierdness that we'd like to try to
fix.

Once in a while, we will get a partial result report for a given fax
but when we look at the actual .tiff image, it looks to be complete.
This is causing our users to not get a positive acknowledgement when
they send the fax.

Is there anything we can do to mitigate this?

Mike.

How do you know the FAX is complete? If a page was received, the sending
machine said more pages were to follow, and then it dropped the call, is
that a complete FAX?

Steve


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:57 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Oddity with FFA Reply with quote

One of my customers had this problem. The cause turned out to be the other side (one particular
remote station).

In addition to res_fax, I also installed the Hylafax/iaxmodem combo. Hylafax has the advantage
of giving nice logs about the signaling. This way it was easy to see what was going on, but I
have forgotten the details meanwhile.

jg

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:30 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Oddity with FFA Reply with quote

Hi

Le 10/03/2014 17:36, Mike Diehl a écrit :
Quote:
Hi all,

For the most part, we are finding that Fax for Asterisk works pretty
well. However, we have seen some wierdness that we'd like to try to
fix.

Once in a while, we will get a partial result report for a given fax
but when we look at the actual .tiff image, it looks to be complete.
This is causing our users to not get a positive acknowledgement when
they send the fax.

Is there anything we can do to mitigate this?

We also faced from time to time a reception problem and improve it like
this: after faxreceive, if faxopt(status) is different to SUCCESS we
check if faxpages is greater than zero, if yes, if faxopt(error) =
NO_ERROR. In this case we consider that fax is well received. Asterisk 1.8

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:08 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Oddity with FFA Reply with quote

Steve,


I BELIEVE the fax is complete because the fax image is a form that appears to only be a single page.


But, since FFA isn't providing acknowledgement, the sending fax machine is resending the document multiple times!


Mike.



On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org (steveu@coppice.org)> wrote:
Quote:
On 03/11/2014 12:36 AM, Mike Diehl wrote:
Quote:
Hi all,

For the most part, we are finding that Fax for Asterisk works pretty
well.  However, we have seen some wierdness that we'd like to try to
fix.

Once in a while, we will get a partial result report for a given fax
but when we look at the actual .tiff image, it looks to be complete.
This is causing our users to not get a positive acknowledgement when
they send the fax.

Is there anything we can do to mitigate this?

Mike.



How do you know the FAX is complete? If a page was received, the sending machine said more pages were to follow, and then it dropped the call, is that a complete FAX?

Steve


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:28 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Oddity with FFA Reply with quote

Hi Mike,

If the sending machine keeps trying it might be the call has been hung
up by asterisk before its own acknowledgement message has finished being
sent. There have been bugs like this in the past, and people can be
pretty casual about making changes which hang up aggressively. A FAX
system should really wait for the final DCN message before
disconnecting, to ensure both sides have seen what they need. Spandsp
does that, but I am not sure about FFA.

Regards,
Steve

On 03/11/2014 03:03 AM, Mike Diehl wrote:
Quote:
Steve,

I BELIEVE the fax is complete because the fax image is a form that
appears to only be a single page.

But, since FFA isn't providing acknowledgement, the sending fax
machine is resending the document multiple times!

Mike.


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org
<mailto:steveu@coppice.org>> wrote:

On 03/11/2014 12:36 AM, Mike Diehl wrote:

Hi all,

For the most part, we are finding that Fax for Asterisk works
pretty
well. However, we have seen some wierdness that we'd like to
try to
fix.

Once in a while, we will get a partial result report for a
given fax
but when we look at the actual .tiff image, it looks to be
complete.
This is causing our users to not get a positive
acknowledgement when
they send the fax.

Is there anything we can do to mitigate this?

Mike.

How do you know the FAX is complete? If a page was received, the
sending machine said more pages were to follow, and then it
dropped the call, is that a complete FAX?

Steve


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:46 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Oddity with FFA Reply with quote

Steve,


I appreciate you elaborating on my problem.  I don't suppose this is as easy as putting a wait(3) in my dial plan before hangup.....?  (Didn't think so.)


Aside from checking (and hoping) for a newer version of FFA that fixes this issue, I guess there's not much I can do, then.


Thanks again.

Mike.



On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org (steveu@coppice.org)> wrote:
Quote:
Hi Mike,

If the sending machine keeps trying it might be the call has been hung up by asterisk before its own acknowledgement message has finished being sent. There have been bugs like this in the past, and people can be pretty casual about making changes which hang up aggressively. A FAX system should really wait for the final DCN message before disconnecting, to ensure both sides have seen what they need. Spandsp does that, but I am not sure about FFA.

Regards,
Steve

On 03/11/2014 03:03 AM, Mike Diehl wrote:
Quote:
Steve,

I BELIEVE the fax is complete because the fax image is a form that appears to only be a single page.

But, since FFA isn't providing acknowledgement, the sending fax machine is resending the document multiple times!

Mike.


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org (steveu@coppice.org) <mailto:steveu@coppice.org (steveu@coppice.org)>> wrote:

    On 03/11/2014 12:36 AM, Mike Diehl wrote:

        Hi all,

        For the most part, we are finding that Fax for Asterisk works
        pretty
        well.  However, we have seen some wierdness that we'd like to
        try to
        fix.

        Once in a while, we will get a partial result report for a
        given fax
        but when we look at the actual .tiff image, it looks to be
        complete.
        This is causing our users to not get a positive
        acknowledgement when
        they send the fax.

        Is there anything we can do to mitigate this?

        Mike.

    How do you know the FAX is complete? If a page was received, the
    sending machine said more pages were to follow, and then it
    dropped the call, is that a complete FAX?

    Steve


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