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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:37 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Old Asterisk Release wanting to upgrade ... Reply with quote

Hello,
I have been running Asterisk for the past 5+ years on RedHat and I never upgraded it before.
All my Asterisk software is of the following release:
1) Asterisk 1.4.21.2
2) Libpri-1.4.4
3) Zaptel-1.4.11
I would like to move the OS to CentOS and then I thought I can at the same time ponder about upgrading Asterisk releases.
However, I am bewildered by the myriad of different releases like 1.6, 1.8, 10.x, 11.x, 12.x, 13.x
Can someone please give me some advice as to what release I should upgrade?
Or should I just stick to 1.4.x and just upgrade DAHDI?
Thanks.
Regards,
John Lee
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:03 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Old Asterisk Release wanting to upgrade ... Reply with quote

2014-04-15 10:37, Lee, John (Sydney) skrev:
Quote:
Hello,
I have been running Asterisk for the past 5+ years on RedHat and I never upgraded it before.
All my Asterisk software is of the following release:
1) Asterisk 1.4.21.2
2) Libpri-1.4.4
3) Zaptel-1.4.11
I would like to move the OS to CentOS and then I thought I can at the same time ponder about upgrading Asterisk releases.
However, I am bewildered by the myriad of different releases like 1.6, 1.8, 10.x, 11.x, 12.x, 13.x
Can someone please give me some advice as to what release I should upgrade?
Or should I just stick to 1.4.x and just upgrade DAHDI?
Thanks.
Regards,
John Lee
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1.4, and 1.6-series have no support anymore. 1.8 is an LTS and have
support currently, but this is also true for 11 and asterisk 11 will be
supported longer.

You have the full list here:
https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+Versions

I would go for Asterisk 11 in your case. You will have to think of it
more like a migration than an upgrade thought, as a lot has happened
since asterisk 1.4.

On a side-note, I still run some old installations with a current Dahdi
+ Asterisk 1.4.44 and they work great together. There is the non-support
catch however.

Good luck!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:15 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Old Asterisk Release wanting to upgrade ... Reply with quote

A little while back, I upgraded some systems from Asterisk 1.4 (I believe it was 1.4.29.1, and they were already running DAHDI), to 11.  11 made the most sense as far as it being a LTS release so it would be longer before being forced into a new version (as far as continued bug fixes and things), and I figured it would be more stable than 12.


The upgrade wasn't too difficult, even jumping several versions.  I *strongly* suggest reading the various "UPGRADE-XX" files that come with the Asterisk source so you don't get caught by any changes between versions.  There are quite a few changes and each dialplan is different, so things that caught me would be different than what you might run into.  Those upgrade text files are extremely useful in this case.


Beyond that, I spent a lot of time migrating my config files.  Since newer versions have newer / different options, I didn't just keep my old files.  For example, for SIP.CONF, I went through and modified the default settings in the new file to match what I needed, copied over my site-specific sip definitions from the old file, then double-checked everything.  I did that with each file that I had modified (and in your case, you'll have to go from zapata.conf to chan_dahdi.conf).  It can be tedious, but it really only took me a day or two (taking time to double-check my changes). Overall, not a bad experience at all.
 

Josh



On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Lee, John (Sydney) <John.Lee@compuware.com (John.Lee@compuware.com)> wrote:
Quote:
Hello,
I have been running Asterisk for the past 5+ years on RedHat and I never upgraded it before.
All my Asterisk software is of the following release:
1) Asterisk 1.4.21.2
2) Libpri-1.4.4
3) Zaptel-1.4.11
I would like to move the OS to CentOS and then I thought I can at the same time ponder about upgrading Asterisk releases.
However, I am bewildered by the myriad of different releases like 1.6, 1.8, 10.x, 11.x, 12.x, 13.x
Can someone please give me some advice as to what release I should upgrade?
Or should I just stick to 1.4.x and just upgrade DAHDI?
Thanks.
Regards,
John Lee
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:41 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Old Asterisk Release wanting to upgrade ... Reply with quote

Josh Metzger wrote:

Quote:
A little while back, I upgraded some systems from Asterisk 1.4 (I
believe it was 1.4.29.1, and they were already running DAHDI), to 11.
11 made the most sense as far as it being a LTS release so it would be
longer before being forced into a new version (as far as continued bug
fixes and things), and I figured it would be more stable than 12.

The upgrade wasn't too difficult, even jumping several versions. I
*strongly* suggest reading the various "UPGRADE-XX" files that come with
the Asterisk source so you don't get caught by any changes between
versions. There are quite a few changes and each dialplan is different,
so things that caught me would be different than what you might run
into. Those upgrade text files are extremely useful in this case.

Beyond that, I spent a lot of time migrating my config files. Since
newer versions have newer / different options, I didn't just keep my old
files. For example, for SIP.CONF, I went through and modified the
default settings in the new file to match what I needed, copied over my
site-specific sip definitions from the old file, then double-checked
everything. I did that with each file that I had modified (and in your
case, you'll have to go from zapata.conf to chan_dahdi.conf). It can be
tedious, but it really only took me a day or two (taking time to
double-check my changes). Overall, not a bad experience at all.

Awesome to hear that! Backwards compatibility is certainly at our
forefront these days when doing development and we try our hardest to
make the experience of upgrading as painless as possible from that
perspective.

Cheers,

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Check us out at: www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:54 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Old Asterisk Release wanting to upgrade ... Reply with quote

Thanks Johan.
I think I will stick with 1.4.x and DAHDI. Although it is a unsupported release, I never had any problems with them.
Some machines have never been rebooted for 5+ years.
I am a bit scared of going to 11. I have written a lot of AEL2 script in Asterisk 1.4.x and I am not sure if it will still run in 11.

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Sent: Tuesday, 15 April 2014 7:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Old Asterisk Release wanting to upgrade ...

2014-04-15 10:37, Lee, John (Sydney) skrev:
Quote:
Hello,
I have been running Asterisk for the past 5+ years on RedHat and I never upgraded it before.
All my Asterisk software is of the following release:
1) Asterisk 1.4.21.2
2) Libpri-1.4.4
3) Zaptel-1.4.11
I would like to move the OS to CentOS and then I thought I can at the same time ponder about upgrading Asterisk releases.
However, I am bewildered by the myriad of different releases like 1.6,
1.8, 10.x, 11.x, 12.x, 13.x Can someone please give me some advice as to what release I should upgrade?
Or should I just stick to 1.4.x and just upgrade DAHDI?
Thanks.
Regards,
John Lee
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1.4, and 1.6-series have no support anymore. 1.8 is an LTS and have support currently, but this is also true for 11 and asterisk 11 will be supported longer.

You have the full list here:
https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+Versions

I would go for Asterisk 11 in your case. You will have to think of it more like a migration than an upgrade thought, as a lot has happened since asterisk 1.4.

On a side-note, I still run some old installations with a current Dahdi
+ Asterisk 1.4.44 and they work great together. There is the non-support
catch however.

Good luck!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:32 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Old Asterisk Release wanting to upgrade ... Reply with quote

On 17/4/14 3:53 am, Lee, John (Sydney) wrote:
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I have written a lot of AEL2 script in Asterisk 1.4.x and I am not sure if it will still run in 11.

If I'm honest, this is why I still have so many 1.4.x boxes around as
well. I've been using 11 for new installs, but the thought of having to
redo all the AEL macros from 1.4 does not fill me with any enthusiasm to
update those boxes.

The switch to Gosub() does not seem to be an easy drop-in replacement
for Macro().

Kind regards,

Chris
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:54 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Old Asterisk Release wanting to upgrade ... Reply with quote

I had little problem converting my AEL scripts from 1.4 to 11


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:37 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Old Asterisk Release wanting to upgrade ... Reply with quote

On 17/4/14 4:53 pm, Eric Wieling wrote:
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I had little problem converting my AEL scripts from 1.4 to 11

Did they have lots of macros in them?

If so, then you, sir, are a better man than I, and I take my hat off to
you Smile
(and any hints you might want to share in converting 1.4 AEL macros to
11 would be gratefully appreciated)

Kind regards,

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:58 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Old Asterisk Release wanting to upgrade ... Reply with quote

Is there a specific item you are having problems with? The Gosub and Macro changes in later versions of Asterisk is mostly transparent to the dialplan if you use AELSub() to call AEL from extensions.conf. The AELSub() dialplan application was written do you don't have to worry about macro .vs. gosub with AEL.


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On 17/4/14 4:53 pm, Eric Wieling wrote:
Quote:
I had little problem converting my AEL scripts from 1.4 to 11

Did they have lots of macros in them?

If so, then you, sir, are a better man than I, and I take my hat off to you Smile (and any hints you might want to share in converting 1.4 AEL macros to
11 would be gratefully appreciated)

Kind regards,

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