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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:11 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] CLID Presentation & Billing Number | Di Reply with quote

We would like to present a toll free CallerID when making outbound toll calls.  In the past, when our PRIs were directly connected to a Nortel CS1000 we could do this, without issue.  Now that the PRIs are front ended by a mediagateway facing asterisk, we can no longer do this.   

Is it possible to set the billing number via a SIP header and set what should be presented as callerid as another header for presentation?   


We can't possibly be the only people in the world that has faced this challenge.   Searching the internet has provided limited results.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:17 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] CLID Presentation & Billing Number | Di Reply with quote

The following is a basic syntax of what you need to do before the "Dial" function is launched:

Set(CALLERID(num)="1234567890")



More details is here:


http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+func+callerid



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On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 8:10 PM, Positively Optimistic <positivelyoptimistic@gmail.com (positivelyoptimistic@gmail.com)> wrote:
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We would like to present a toll free CallerID when making outbound toll calls.  In the past, when our PRIs were directly connected to a Nortel CS1000 we could do this, without issue.  Now that the PRIs are front ended by a mediagateway facing asterisk, we can no longer do this.   

Is it possible to set the billing number via a SIP header and set what should be presented as callerid as another header for presentation?   


We can't possibly be the only people in the world that has faced this challenge.   Searching the internet has provided limited results.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:23 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] CLID Presentation & Billing Number | Di Reply with quote

It depends on your carrier.    With some carriers, such as Verizon SIP, you do this using P-Asserted-Identity.  With Verizon SIP, if they can’t figure out how to bill the call, it will be rejected.
With Level 3 SIP, you can use From: or PAID but if the number you present to them is not on your account, they will bill the call against the “failsafe” number on your account. 

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We would like to present a toll free CallerID when making outbound toll calls. In the past, when our PRIs were directly connected to a Nortel CS1000 we could do this, without issue. Now that the PRIs are front ended by a mediagateway facing asterisk, we can no longer do this.


Is it possible to set the billing number via a SIP header and set what should be presented as callerid as another header for presentation?



We can't possibly be the only people in the world that has faced this challenge. Searching the internet has provided limited results.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:23 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] CLID Presentation & Billing Number | Di Reply with quote

Thanks Hassan,
That is precisely what we are doing...   if we Set(CALLERID(num)="8002211212") the call fails..   however, if we Set(CALLERID(num)="256963800") it is successful.


The call will complete if we use any valid non-toll free number in the LERG.  If we use a toll free, it fails.








On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Nyamul Hassan <nyamul@gmail.com (nyamul@gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
The following is a basic syntax of what you need to do before the "Dial" function is launched:

Set(CALLERID(num)="1234567890")



More details is here:


http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+func+callerid



Regards
HASSAN





On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 8:10 PM, Positively Optimistic <positivelyoptimistic@gmail.com (positivelyoptimistic@gmail.com)> wrote:


Quote:
We would like to present a toll free CallerID when making outbound toll calls.  In the past, when our PRIs were directly connected to a Nortel CS1000 we could do this, without issue.  Now that the PRIs are front ended by a mediagateway facing asterisk, we can no longer do this.   

Is it possible to set the billing number via a SIP header and set what should be presented as callerid as another header for presentation?   


We can't possibly be the only people in the world that has faced this challenge.   Searching the internet has provided limited results.




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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:24 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] CLID Presentation & Billing Number | Di Reply with quote

You need to talk to your carrier.

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Thanks Hassan,

That is precisely what we are doing... if we Set(CALLERID(num)="8002211212") the call fails.. however, if we Set(CALLERID(num)="256963800") it is successful.



The call will complete if we use any valid non-toll free number in the LERG. If we use a toll free, it fails.








On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Nyamul Hassan <nyamul@gmail.com (nyamul@gmail.com)> wrote:
The following is a basic syntax of what you need to do before the "Dial" function is launched:


Set(CALLERID(num)="1234567890")



More details is here:



http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+func+callerid



Regards

HASSAN





On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 8:10 PM, Positively Optimistic <positivelyoptimistic@gmail.com (positivelyoptimistic@gmail.com)> wrote:

Quote:

We would like to present a toll free CallerID when making outbound toll calls. In the past, when our PRIs were directly connected to a Nortel CS1000 we could do this, without issue. Now that the PRIs are front ended by a mediagateway facing asterisk, we can no longer do this.


Is it possible to set the billing number via a SIP header and set what should be presented as callerid as another header for presentation?



We can't possibly be the only people in the world that has faced this challenge. Searching the internet has provided limited results.





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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:25 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] CLID Presentation & Billing Number | Di Reply with quote

We're using a Earthlink PRI converted to SIP via a MediaGateway.   I assume the mediagateway will convert the headers to something that PRI can understand.


On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Eric Wieling <EWieling@nyigc.com (EWieling@nyigc.com)> wrote:
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It depends on your carrier.    With some carriers, such as Verizon SIP, you do this using P-Asserted-Identity.  With Verizon SIP, if they can’t figure out how to bill the call, it will be rejected.
With Level 3 SIP, you can use From: or PAID but if the number you present to them is not on your account, they will bill the call against the “failsafe” number on your account. 
 
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Subject: [asterisk-users] CLID Presentation & Billing Number | Diversion vs. Remote-Party-ID vs. P-Asserted-Id vs. From vs. P-Charge-info

 
We would like to present a toll free CallerID when making outbound toll calls.  In the past, when our PRIs were directly connected to a Nortel CS1000 we could do this, without issue.  Now that the PRIs are front ended by a mediagateway facing asterisk, we can no longer do this.   
 

Is it possible to set the billing number via a SIP header and set what should be presented as callerid as another header for presentation?   

 

We can't possibly be the only people in the world that has faced this challenge.   Searching the internet has provided limited results.





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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:38 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] CLID Presentation & Billing Number | Di Reply with quote

There seem to be a number of places number presentation could go wrong.
Since the PRI 'used to' show toll-free numbers correctly, you need to
look at the gateway.

Can you debug the ISDN message on the gateway? See how the toll-free is
being sent to the carrier.

Since you are looking to manipulate the ISDN message via SIP, it all
comes down to how the gateway handles the desired functions.


Sincerely,
Brian LaVallee

On 6/26/14, 11:24 PM, Positively Optimistic wrote:
Quote:
We're using a Earthlink PRI converted to SIP via a MediaGateway. I assume
the mediagateway will convert the headers to something that PRI can
understand.


On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Eric Wieling <EWieling@nyigc.com> wrote:

Quote:
It depends on your carrier. With some carriers, such as Verizon SIP,
you do this using P-Asserted-Identity. With Verizon SIP, if they cant
figure out how to bill the call, it will be rejected.

With Level 3 SIP, you can use From: or PAID but if the number you present
to them is not on your account, they will bill the call against the
failsafe number on your account.



*From:* asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:
asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Positively
Optimistic
*Sent:* Thursday, June 26, 2014 10:11 AM
*To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
*Subject:* [asterisk-users] CLID Presentation & Billing Number |
Diversion vs. Remote-Party-ID vs. P-Asserted-Id vs. From vs. P-Charge-info



We would like to present a toll free CallerID when making outbound toll
calls. In the past, when our PRIs were directly connected to a Nortel
CS1000 we could do this, without issue. Now that the PRIs are front ended
by a mediagateway facing asterisk, we can no longer do this.



Is it possible to set the billing number via a SIP header and set what
should be presented as callerid as another header for presentation?



We can't possibly be the only people in the world that has faced this
challenge. Searching the internet has provided limited results.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:32 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] CLID Presentation & Billing Number | Di Reply with quote

Hi Brian,This is the path that I've started down.  It's a 8-Span Audiocodes Mediant 2000 running 6.4.   Plan to look at the various syslog options today and see what is available.


Thanks for your input...



On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Brian LaVallee <b.lavallee@globaltank.jp (b.lavallee@globaltank.jp)> wrote:
Quote:
There seem to be a number of places number presentation could go wrong.
 Since the PRI 'used to' show toll-free numbers correctly, you need to
look at the gateway.

Can you debug the ISDN message on the gateway?  See how the toll-free is
being sent to the carrier.

Since you are looking to manipulate the ISDN message via SIP, it all
comes down to how the gateway handles the desired functions.


Sincerely,
Brian LaVallee

On 6/26/14, 11:24 PM, Positively Optimistic wrote:
Quote:
We're using a Earthlink PRI converted to SIP via a MediaGateway.   I assume
the mediagateway will convert the headers to something that PRI can
understand.


On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Eric Wieling <EWieling@nyigc.com (EWieling@nyigc.com)> wrote:

Quote:
It depends on your carrier.    With some carriers, such as Verizon SIP,
you do this using P-Asserted-Identity.  With Verizon SIP, if they can’t
figure out how to bill the call, it will be rejected.

With Level 3 SIP, you can use From: or PAID but if the number you present
to them is not on your account, they will bill the call against the
“failsafe” number on your account.




Quote:
Quote:
*From:* asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com) [mailto:
asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com)] *On Behalf Of *Positively
Optimistic
*Sent:* Thursday, June 26, 2014 10:11 AM
*To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
*Subject:* [asterisk-users] CLID Presentation & Billing Number |
Diversion vs. Remote-Party-ID vs. P-Asserted-Id vs. From vs. P-Charge-info



We would like to present a toll free CallerID when making outbound toll
calls.  In the past, when our PRIs were directly connected to a Nortel
CS1000 we could do this, without issue.  Now that the PRIs are front ended
by a mediagateway facing asterisk, we can no longer do this.



Is it possible to set the billing number via a SIP header and set what
should be presented as callerid as another header for presentation?



We can't possibly be the only people in the world that has faced this
challenge.   Searching the internet has provided limited results.

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