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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:08 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Internal timing under load is critical ? |
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HiI am evaluating some voice broadcasting solutions based on Asterisks for more than 1000 simultaneous calls.Connection to Asterisk all are based on SIP and SIP Trunks so no DAHDI hardware is required.According to some recommendations like http://osdial.org/howto/ "Internal timing is very critical with Asterisk when it is under load"and we must use DAHDI hardware or "USB Voice Synch Tool" http://www.sangoma.com/accessories/specialty-tools/But according to my understanding of wiki https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Timing+InterfacesIt seems it is not necessary now.Please tell me your opinions.Regards |
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:41 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Internal timing under load is critical ? |
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If you were running on Asterisk 1.4, a Zaptel or Dahdi timing source (including the Sangoma USB device) was necessary to avoid sometimes unreliable timing from the "dummy" interface.
For modern releases (1.6, 1.8, 11, 12, etc) this isn't necessary for most systems. Â However, you may have better results with such a large number of calls by using a hardware timing source. Â The difference will vary between different systems and loads -- I recommend testing it on your own platform. Â Note that changing to a different model with a different motherboard or even just a different chipset can result in a difference in timing accuracy.
 -- so your best option is to try it both ways under load to see if you see a benefit, and re-test should you change the platform, such as using a different motherboard.
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:08 AM, babak <bk1379@yahoo.com (bk1379@yahoo.com)> wrote:
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asterisk.org at sedwar... Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:47 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Internal timing under load is critical ? |
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On Wed, 30 Jul 2014, babak wrote:
I'm running Asterisk 11.11.0 on an HP ProLiant DL320e Gen8 E3-1240v2.
1,300 calls with no audio issues.
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:08 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Internal timing under load is critical ? |
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Thank you for replys
1300 calls include playback voices ?
which timing module you are using:
res_timing_timerfd.so orres_timing_kqueue.so or res_timing_dahdi.sores_timing_pthread.so
Regards
On Thursday, July 31, 2014 12:16 AM, Steve Edwards <asterisk.org@sedwards.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2014, babak wrote:> According to some recommendations like http://osdial.org/howto/> "Internal timing is very critical with Asterisk when it is under load" > and we must use DAHDI hardware or "USB Voice Synch Tool" > http://www.sangoma.com/accessories/specialty-tools/But according to my > understanding of wiki > https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Timing+InterfacesIt seems it > is not necessary now. Please tell me your opinions.
I'm running Asterisk 11.11.0 on an HP ProLiant DL320e Gen8 E3-1240v2.1,300 calls with no audio issues.-- Thanks in advance,-------------------------------------------------------------------------Steve Edwards sedwards@sedwards.com (sedwards@sedwards.com) Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PSTNewline Fax: +1-760-731-3000-- _____________________________________________________________________-- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com--New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/helloasterisk-users mailing listTo UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users |
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asterisk.org at sedwar... Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:34 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Internal timing under load is critical ? |
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Please don't top post.
Please keep the thread only on the list.
Quote: | On Thursday, July 31, 2014 12:16 AM, Steve Edwards
<asterisk.org@sedwards.com> wrote:
I'm running Asterisk 11.11.0 on an HP ProLiant DL320e Gen8 E3-1240v2.
1,300 calls with no audio issues.
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On Wed, 30 Jul 2014, babak wrote:
Quote: | 1300 calls include playback voices ?
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The test scenario was for the first server to originate calls (via call
files) to the second server and then 'playback()' a long file. The second
server would answer the call and then 'playback()' a long file. Audio was
flowing in each direction.
Bandwidth was observed using 'iftop' as being in the 70mb to 80mb range in
each direction (if I remember correctly).
I placed calls from a handset to confirm audio quality.
Quote: | which timing module you are using: res_timing_timerfd.so or
res_timing_kqueue.so or res_timing_dahdi.sores_timing_pthread.so
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I used res_timing_timerfd.so. I'm finally making the leap from 1.2 to the
current decade I read somewhere that this was the timer to use and it
seems to be working fine for me.
I don't think the cores got much over 20% to 30% busy.
Various failures were observed on the console from running out of file
descriptors. This was on a stock CentOS 6.5 install with no tweaks to bump
up the max file descriptors.
The client only asked for 500 simultaneous calls so no further testing was
done.
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:37 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Internal timing under load is critical ? |
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On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Steve Edwards <asterisk.org@sedwards.com (asterisk.org@sedwards.com)> wrote:
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Quote: | which timing module you are using: res_timing_timerfd.so or res_timing_kqueue.so or res_timing_dahdi.sores_timing_pthread.so
I used res_timing_timerfd.so. I'm finally making the leap from 1.2 to the current decade I read somewhere that this was the timer to use and it seems to be working fine for me.
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Welcome to the current decade! Glad to hear Asterisk 11 is working out okay for you so far. 1.2 to 11 is a big leap.
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FWIW, the Asterisk wiki has a run down on timing interfaces and which ones are preferred:
https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Timing+Interfaces
For those who want the cliff's notes version, it is:
* res_timing_timerfd
* res_timing_kqueue (where available)
* res_timing_dahdi
* res_timing_pthread
In particular, res_timing_pthread should only be used as a last resort.
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:52 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Internal timing under load is critical ? |
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On 30/7/14 10:08 am, babak wrote:
Quote: | I am evaluating some voice broadcasting solutions based on Asterisks for more than 1000 simultaneous calls.
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As a matter of curiosity, what do people use these voice broadcasting
solutions for?
I'm genuinely struggling to think of (legal) reasons why you'd want to
broadcast 1000+ simultaneous calls. Perhaps I'm just not being
imaginative enough...
Kind regards,
Chris
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:07 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Internal timing under load is critical ? |
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On 07/31/2014 09:51 AM, Chris Bagnall wrote:
Quote: | On 30/7/14 10:08 am, babak wrote:
Quote: | I am evaluating some voice broadcasting solutions based on Asterisks
for more than 1000 simultaneous calls.
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As a matter of curiosity, what do people use these voice broadcasting
solutions for?
I'm genuinely struggling to think of (legal) reasons why you'd want to
broadcast 1000+ simultaneous calls. Perhaps I'm just not being
imaginative enough...
Kind regards,
Chris
| Community and emergency notification systems are the first uses to come
to mind.
That said, "Jane from Card Services" is probably much more common.
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bk1379 at yahoo.com Guest
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:22 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Internal timing under load is critical ? |
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Quote: | As a matter of curiosity, what do people use these voice broadcasting > solutions for?>> I'm genuinely struggling to think of (legal) reasons why you'd want to > broadcast 1000+ simultaneous calls. Perhaps I'm just not being > imaginative enough... >> Kind regards,>> Chris
| For a big PSTN operator (+10 million subscribers) there are many applications for voice broadcasting,just one sample if they can get postpaid phone bills one week sooner or if they can reduce number of unpaid bills by voice notices they compensate all expenses. |
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