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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:08 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Polycom DND + Intercom/Paging Override? Reply with quote

Greetings-

As many of your are Polycom "experienced", I was hoping some kind soul could provide direction on a specific issue.

On a system running Asterisk 11.11.0 (and latest FreePBX), I'm finding an instance where, using intercom/paging functionality of FreePBX, I need to override an end user's 'Do Not Disturb' selection on the handset. By default, DND simply rejects all inbound SIP INVITEs. However, a page/intercom needs to be allowed through.

Any suggestions? I've read reports this is doable using Polycom config options for call priorities, but I've had no such luck yet.

Thanks!

--Tim
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:03 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Polycom DND + Intercom/Paging Override? Reply with quote

Tim,

I THINK but I'm not sure that you can do this with the Polycom multicast page function. Have you attempted this yet?


Thanks
david


On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Tim Nelson <tnelson@rockbochs.com (tnelson@rockbochs.com)> wrote:
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Greetings-

As many of your are Polycom "experienced", I was hoping some kind soul could provide direction on a specific issue.

On a system running Asterisk 11.11.0 (and latest FreePBX), I'm finding an instance where, using intercom/paging functionality of FreePBX, I need to override an end user's 'Do Not Disturb' selection on the handset. By default, DND simply rejects all inbound SIP INVITEs. However, a page/intercom needs to be allowed through.

Any suggestions? I've read reports this is doable using Polycom config options for call priorities, but I've had no such luck yet.

Thanks!

--Tim



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:06 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Polycom DND + Intercom/Paging Override? Reply with quote

Yes, I am pretty sure that if a Polycom unit is set DND and you initiate a multicast page from another Polycom handset on a page or PTT channel that the DND handset is subscribed to (like the emergency channel), then you will hear audio on that handset.

BUT Polycom handsets cannot be configured to just listen to RTP being multicasted to a particular multicast IP like many other IP phones can...the signalling for Polycom multicast paging and PTT functionality is completely proprietary and not SIP-based, and in fact the audio itself is not RTP. It is a proprietary audio packet format that has a header prefixed to it containing signalling information, on every audio packet/frame. Therefore nothing else can initiate a multicast page except another Polycom phone on the same layer 2 broadcast domain...you cannot programmatically have Asterisk/FreePBX do this.

Polycom has released an engineering advisory documenting the format, in case anyone in Asterisk land is interested in writing a channel driver that can interoperate with this. I for one think it would be very handy to be able to have Asterisk initiate group paging and push-to-talk on Polycom handsets.

The document is here: http://support.polycom.com/global/documents/support/technical/products/voice/Audio_Packet_Format.pdf

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Tim,

I THINK but I'm not sure that you can do this with the Polycom multicast
page function. Have you attempted this yet?

Thanks
david

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Tim Nelson <tnelson@rockbochs.com>
wrote:


Greetings-

As many of your are Polycom "experienced", I was hoping some kind soul
could provide direction on a specific issue.

On a system running Asterisk 11.11.0 (and latest FreePBX), I'm finding
an instance where, using intercom/paging functionality of FreePBX, I need
to override an end user's 'Do Not Disturb' selection on the handset. By
default, DND simply rejects all inbound SIP INVITEs. However, a
page/intercom needs to be allowed through.

Any suggestions? I've read reports this is doable using Polycom config
options for call priorities, but I've had no such luck yet.

Thanks!

--Tim


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:31 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Polycom DND + Intercom/Paging Override? Reply with quote

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Nathan Anderson <nathana@fsr.com (nathana@fsr.com)> wrote:
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BUT Polycom handsets cannot be configured to just listen to RTP being multicasted to a particular multicast IP like many other IP phones can...the signalling for Polycom multicast paging and PTT functionality is completely proprietary and not SIP-based, and in fact the audio itself is not RTP.  It is a proprietary audio packet format that has a header prefixed to it containing signalling information, on every audio packet/frame.  Therefore nothing else can initiate a multicast page except another Polycom phone on the same layer 2 broadcast domain...you cannot programmatically have Asterisk/FreePBX do this.


There is one product that I know of that is Compatible with Polycom paging. The Algo 8180 Audio Alerter.

http://www.algosolutions.com/products/Audible-and-Visual-Alerting/8180-sip-audio-alerter.html


You can call it via SIP from asterisk and it can multicast in the special Polycom format to your phones.
 



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:40 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Polycom DND + Intercom/Paging Override? Reply with quote

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Tim,

Quote:
I THINK but I'm not sure that you can do this with the Polycom
multicast page function. Have you attempted this yet?

Quote:
Thanks
david

Given the odd nature of multicast paging with Polycom, I was hoping to avoid such a setup. My recollection is having this work previously with an older version of Asterisk (1.4.x?), and the same handsets. Time to check archived backups...

Thank you for the suggestion though, I may have to go that route.

--Tim

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:43 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Polycom DND + Intercom/Paging Override? Reply with quote

On Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:31 AM, John Kiniston wrote:

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There is one product that I know of that is Compatible with Polycom
paging. The Algo 8180 Audio Alerter. [snip]

You can call it via SIP from asterisk and it can multicast in the special
Polycom format to your phones.

Wow, I had no idea! I have looked at SIP-based PAs in the past, including this one, but this completely escaped my attention. I just browsed through the manual, and sure enough, this is an advertised feature.

Kinda weird that you have to buy an all-in-one loudspeaker to acquire a device that can act as a SIP-to-Polycom-multicast bridge...it would be nice if they sold a cheaper version that omitted the speaker. (Or, even better yet, if Asterisk just supported this natively so that you didn't have to buy some hardware box.) But still, it's nice to know that this exists and is an option.

Thanks for the heads-up!

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