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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:11 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature ) |
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Dear Sir/ Madam,
My client is using Asterisk based telephony system. He has 300 concurrent users with two PRI Channels.
He is requesting to add the intercom feature in his phones. Can you assist me please doing that?
I would appreciate your kind responds.
Best Wishes,
Dania Abu Asi
Sales Executive Engineer
Future Trends Establishment
Abu Dhabi - U.A.E.
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:24 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature ) |
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Dear JG,
Thank you for following up with me.
Kindly note that I asked about the capability of the phones and now I am
asking about the way I can do it to my client's phones, because he is asking
for a demonstration.
Best Wishes,
Dania Abu Asi
Sales Executive Engineer
Future Trends Establishment
Abu Dhabi - U.A.E.
Mob : +971 50 4948363
Off : +971 2 6730666
Fax : +971 2 6734888
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of jg
Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 12:21 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature )
You asked this question before and there was an already answer on September
28.
jg
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:28 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature ) |
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It can't be done in analog phones. On 07-Oct-2014 1:54 PM, "Dania Asi" <dania@futuretrendsest.com (dania@futuretrendsest.com)> wrote: Quote: | Dear JG,
Thank you for following up with me.
Kindly note that I asked about the capability of the phones and now I am
asking about the way I can do it to my client's phones, because he is asking
for a demonstration.
Best Wishes,
Dania Abu Asi
Sales Executive Engineer
Future Trends Establishment
Abu Dhabi - U.A.E.
Mob : [url=tel:%2B971%2050%204948363]+971 50 4948363[/url]
Off : [url=tel:%2B971%202%206730666]+971 2 6730666[/url]
Fax : [url=tel:%2B971%202%206734888]+971 2 6734888[/url]
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com)
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com)] On Behalf Of jg
Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 12:21 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature )
You asked this question before and there was an already answer on September
28.
jg
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:34 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature ) |
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On 7 Oct 2014, at 09:24, Dania Asi <dania@futuretrendsest.com> wrote:
Quote: | Kindly note that I asked about the capability of the phones and now I am
asking about the way I can do it to my client's phones, because he is asking
for a demonstration.
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Yet you’ve not even told us the phones in use. You can’t just expect a mailing list to do your work for you. You need to look at the handsets and see what they support, and how they support it. You don’t even say if the handsets are SIP or not, the PSTN connectivity is pretty irrelevant.
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That explains that one.
Steve
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:38 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature ) |
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JG confirmed that "it" is possible, but "it" has not been defined.
Without knowing what kind of instruments you are using, a possible "it"
would be for a party to dial a 4-digit extension number to talk to someone
internally, completing a call without using the PRI trunks.
--Don
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Dania Asi
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 3:41 AM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Cc: 'Irene Galera'; 'Maysara Orabi'; mohammad@futuretrendsest.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature )
Dear Mr. Mitual,
Kindly check the attached mail where Mr. JG confirmed to me that is possible
and I already informed my client of that.
Dear Mr. Steve,
I am not expecting a mailing list to do any work for me. All I was asking is
for you to guide me because this is the first time we deal with Asterisk
phones.
Best Wishes,
Dania Abu Asi
Sales Executive Engineer
Future Trends Establishment
Abu Dhabi - U.A.E.
Mob : +971 50 4948363
Off : +971 2 6730666
Fax : +971 2 6734888
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steven Howes
Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 12:34 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Cc: Irene Galera; Maysara Orabi; mohammad@futuretrendsest.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature )
On 7 Oct 2014, at 09:24, Dania Asi <dania@futuretrendsest.com> wrote:
Quote: | Kindly note that I asked about the capability of the phones and now I
am asking about the way I can do it to my client's phones, because he
is asking for a demonstration.
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Yet you've not even told us the phones in use. You can't just expect a
mailing list to do your work for you. You need to look at the handsets and
see what they support, and how they support it. You don't even say if the
handsets are SIP or not, the PSTN connectivity is pretty irrelevant.
Quote: | Sales Executive Engineer
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That explains that one.
Steve
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:54 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature ) |
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On Tue, 2014-10-07 at 08:37 -0500, Don Kelly wrote:
Quote: | JG confirmed that "it" is possible, but "it" has not been defined.
Without knowing what kind of instruments you are using, a possible "it"
would be for a party to dial a 4-digit extension number to talk to someone
internally, completing a call without using the PRI trunks.
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Indeed, "it" is rather vague.
The intercom I came across the last couple of decades, were simple
analogue-phones, without a dial-pad, with only one button.
If you lift the receiver and press that single button, you'll ring the
other phone. And vice-versa.
That sounds do-able, for any kind of phone connected to Asterisk.
With a wildcard in the dialplan, you can create an truly "any-key"
But the O.P. might expect something else
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:17 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature ) |
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Dear Mr. Adam,
Thank you for you kind words and for judging me.
I am a system integrator and I have a whale clients in UAE , I will not proceed further in dealing with Asterisk because of the lack of support and because of the rude emails.
I have no idea what is wrong with you people. And I hope you get well soon from whatever is happening to you.
Best Wishes,
Dania Abu Asi
Sales Executive Engineer
Future Trends Establishment
Abu Dhabi - U.A.E.
Mob : +971 50 4948363
Off : +971 2 6730666
Fax : +971 2 6734888
From: Adam Goldberg [mailto:adam@agp-llc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 8:51 PM
To: Dania Asi
Subject: FW: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature )
I suggest that your question amounts to "please do my homework for me." This may be understandable given that you are a recent grad and probably don't have much experience in business communication and/or Asterisk complexities.
You cannot expect a mailing list to rush to answer vague, unanswerable questions -- nor emails that don't show that you've tried to answer the question first.
Consider, if I asked:
"I don't understand how to set up Asterisk. Can someone tell me how to do that?"
vs.
"I have a Dell R210-II with 32g of memory and two gigabit ethernet interfaces, I've installed Asterisk from the FreePBX Distro v9.99 and have an assortment of Polycom and Snom IP phones. I've configured paging as described in http://wiki.snom.com/Interoperability/PBX/Asterisk and http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+Page, and it is working for the Snom phones but not the Polycom phones. Can someone point me at what it's going to take to make the Polycom phones work?"
I’d expect to get attempts at an answer to the second one, but would expect snide and rude comments (at best) to the first one.
Adam Goldberg
AGP, LLC
+1-202-507-9900
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com) [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com)] On Behalf Of Don Kelly
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 9:38 AM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature )
JG confirmed that "it" is possible, but "it" has not been defined.
Without knowing what kind of instruments you are using, a possible "it"
would be for a party to dial a 4-digit extension number to talk to someone internally, completing a call without using the PRI trunks.
--Don
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com)
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com)] On Behalf Of Dania Asi
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 3:41 AM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Cc: 'Irene Galera'; 'Maysara Orabi'; mohammad@futuretrendsest.com (mohammad@futuretrendsest.com)
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature )
Dear Mr. Mitual,
Kindly check the attached mail where Mr. JG confirmed to me that is possible and I already informed my client of that.
Dear Mr. Steve,
I am not expecting a mailing list to do any work for me. All I was asking is for you to guide me because this is the first time we deal with Asterisk phones.
Best Wishes,
Dania Abu Asi
Sales Executive Engineer
Future Trends Establishment
Abu Dhabi - U.A.E.
Mob : +971 50 4948363
Off : +971 2 6730666
Fax : +971 2 6734888
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com)
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com)] On Behalf Of Steven Howes
Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 12:34 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Cc: Irene Galera; Maysara Orabi; mohammad@futuretrendsest.com (mohammad@futuretrendsest.com)
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature )
On 7 Oct 2014, at 09:24, Dania Asi <dania@futuretrendsest.com (dania@futuretrendsest.com)> wrote:
Quote: | Kindly note that I asked about the capability of the phones and now I
am asking about the way I can do it to my client's phones, because he
is asking for a demonstration.
|
Yet you've not even told us the phones in use. You can't just expect a mailing list to do your work for you. You need to look at the handsets and see what they support, and how they support it. You don't even say if the handsets are SIP or not, the PSTN connectivity is pretty irrelevant.
Quote: | Sales Executive Engineer
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That explains that one.
Steve
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:40 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature ) |
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This is free software supported by volunteers who are helping you because somewhere in the past someone helped them or perhaps they were just brought up properly.
No one really cares about how many clients you may have. No one here will make any money from that.
Have you read the free books on Asterisk?
Have you at least followed the installation instructions to some point where you are stuck.
I don't see where you have explained what you want to do with the PBX once you have it set up. There are a lot of different applications possible - Small office, enterprise with many branches, call center with thousands of incoming or outgoing calls, etc.
Have you looked at what phones you want to support - brand, features?
Have you selected a type of trunk that your telephone company offers? Do they have a document describing how to interface an Asterisk PBX to their trunks?
What were you expecting a total stranger to do for you when you asked your question?
If you want to hire a consultant to set up your first few clients and train you, than you should say so.
Free advice comes in many forms but there is a limit about how much free time each one of us has and you will get different people helping you depending on the question that you ask. We are not all experts at everything. Most of us are people like you or end-users who are supporting their own company's phone system.
Ron
On 08/10/2014 12:34 AM, Dania Asi wrote:
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Dear Mr. Adam,
Thank you for you kind words and for judging me.
I am a system integrator and I have a whale clients in UAE , I will not proceed further in dealing with Asterisk because of the lack of support and because of the rude emails.
I have no idea what is wrong with you people. And I hope you get well soon from whatever is happening to you.
Best Wishes,
Dania Abu Asi
Sales Executive Engineer
Future Trends Establishment
Abu Dhabi - U.A.E.
Mob : +971 50 4948363
Off : +971 2 6730666
Fax : +971 2 6734888
From: Adam Goldberg [mailto:adam@agp-llc.com (adam@agp-llc.com)]
Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 8:51 PM
To: Dania Asi
Subject: FW: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature )
I suggest that your question amounts to "please do my homework for me." This may be understandable given that you are a recent grad and probably don't have much experience in business communication and/or Asterisk complexities.
You cannot expect a mailing list to rush to answer vague, unanswerable questions -- nor emails that don't show that you've tried to answer the question first.
Consider, if I asked:
"I don't understand how to set up Asterisk. Can someone tell me how to do that?"
vs.
"I have a Dell R210-II with 32g of memory and two gigabit ethernet interfaces, I've installed Asterisk from the FreePBX Distro v9.99 and have an assortment of Polycom and Snom IP phones. I've configured paging as described in http://wiki.snom.com/Interoperability/PBX/Asterisk and http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+Page, and it is working for the Snom phones but not the Polycom phones. Can someone point me at what it's going to take to make the Polycom phones work?"
I’d expect to get attempts at an answer to the second one, but would expect snide and rude comments (at best) to the first one.
Adam Goldberg
AGP, LLC
+1-202-507-9900
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com) [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com)] On Behalf Of Don Kelly
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 9:38 AM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature )
JG confirmed that "it" is possible, but "it" has not been defined.
Without knowing what kind of instruments you are using, a possible "it"
would be for a party to dial a 4-digit extension number to talk to someone internally, completing a call without using the PRI trunks.
--Don
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com)
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com)] On Behalf Of Dania Asi
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 3:41 AM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Cc: 'Irene Galera'; 'Maysara Orabi'; mohammad@futuretrendsest.com (mohammad@futuretrendsest.com)
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature )
Dear Mr. Mitual,
Kindly check the attached mail where Mr. JG confirmed to me that is possible and I already informed my client of that.
Dear Mr. Steve,
I am not expecting a mailing list to do any work for me. All I was asking is for you to guide me because this is the first time we deal with Asterisk phones.
Best Wishes,
Dania Abu Asi
Sales Executive Engineer
Future Trends Establishment
Abu Dhabi - U.A.E.
Mob : +971 50 4948363
Off : +971 2 6730666
Fax : +971 2 6734888
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com)
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com)] On Behalf Of Steven Howes
Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 12:34 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Cc: Irene Galera; Maysara Orabi; mohammad@futuretrendsest.com (mohammad@futuretrendsest.com)
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature )
On 7 Oct 2014, at 09:24, Dania Asi <dania@futuretrendsest.com (dania@futuretrendsest.com)> wrote:
Quote: | Kindly note that I asked about the capability of the phones and now I
am asking about the way I can do it to my client's phones, because he
is asking for a demonstration.
|
Yet you've not even told us the phones in use. You can't just expect a mailing list to do your work for you. You need to look at the handsets and see what they support, and how they support it. You don't even say if the handsets are SIP or not, the PSTN connectivity is pretty irrelevant.
Quote: | Sales Executive Engineer
|
That explains that one.
Steve
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dk at donkelly.biz Guest
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:16 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature ) |
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Although you may have found them rude and unhelpful, I think most of the responses had a common theme—we need more information about what you have and what you want to do before we can help at all.
--Don
From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Ron Wheeler
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 1:40 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature )
This is free software supported by volunteers who are helping you because somewhere in the past someone helped them or perhaps they were just brought up properly.
No one really cares about how many clients you may have. No one here will make any money from that.
Have you read the free books on Asterisk?
Have you at least followed the installation instructions to some point where you are stuck.
I don't see where you have explained what you want to do with the PBX once you have it set up. There are a lot of different applications possible - Small office, enterprise with many branches, call center with thousands of incoming or outgoing calls, etc.
Have you looked at what phones you want to support - brand, features?
Have you selected a type of trunk that your telephone company offers? Do they have a document describing how to interface an Asterisk PBX to their trunks?
What were you expecting a total stranger to do for you when you asked your question?
If you want to hire a consultant to set up your first few clients and train you, than you should say so.
Free advice comes in many forms but there is a limit about how much free time each one of us has and you will get different people helping you depending on the question that you ask. We are not all experts at everything. Most of us are people like you or end-users who are supporting their own company's phone system.
Ron
On 08/10/2014 12:34 AM, Dania Asi wrote:
Quote: |
Dear Mr. Adam,
Thank you for you kind words and for judging me.
I am a system integrator and I have a whale clients in UAE , I will not proceed further in dealing with Asterisk because of the lack of support and because of the rude emails.
I have no idea what is wrong with you people. And I hope you get well soon from whatever is happening to you.
Best Wishes,
Dania Abu Asi
Sales Executive Engineer
Future Trends Establishment
Abu Dhabi - U.A.E.
Mob : +971 50 4948363
Off : +971 2 6730666
Fax : +971 2 6734888
From: Adam Goldberg [mailto:adam@agp-llc.com (adam@agp-llc.com)]
Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 8:51 PM
To: Dania Asi
Subject: FW: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature )
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I suggest that your question amounts to "please do my homework for me." This may be understandable given that you are a recent grad and probably don't have much experience in business communication and/or Asterisk complexities.
You cannot expect a mailing list to rush to answer vague, unanswerable questions -- nor emails that don't show that you've tried to answer the question first.
Consider, if I asked:
"I don't understand how to set up Asterisk. Can someone tell me how to do that?"
vs.
"I have a Dell R210-II with 32g of memory and two gigabit ethernet interfaces, I've installed Asterisk from the FreePBX Distro v9.99 and have an assortment of Polycom and Snom IP phones. I've configured paging as described in http://wiki.snom.com/Interoperability/PBX/Asterisk and http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+Page, and it is working for the Snom phones but not the Polycom phones. Can someone point me at what it's going to take to make the Polycom phones work?"
I’d expect to get attempts at an answer to the second one, but would expect snide and rude comments (at best) to the first one.
Adam Goldberg
AGP, LLC
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From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com) [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com)] On Behalf Of Don Kelly
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 9:38 AM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature )
JG confirmed that "it" is possible, but "it" has not been defined.
Without knowing what kind of instruments you are using, a possible "it"
would be for a party to dial a 4-digit extension number to talk to someone internally, completing a call without using the PRI trunks.
--Don
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Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 3:41 AM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Cc: 'Irene Galera'; 'Maysara Orabi'; mohammad@futuretrendsest.com (mohammad@futuretrendsest.com)
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature )
Dear Mr. Mitual,
Kindly check the attached mail where Mr. JG confirmed to me that is possible and I already informed my client of that.
Dear Mr. Steve,
I am not expecting a mailing list to do any work for me. All I was asking is for you to guide me because this is the first time we deal with Asterisk phones.
Best Wishes,
Dania Abu Asi
Sales Executive Engineer
Future Trends Establishment
Abu Dhabi - U.A.E.
Mob : +971 50 4948363
Off : +971 2 6730666
Fax : +971 2 6734888
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[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com)] On Behalf Of Steven Howes
Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 12:34 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Cc: Irene Galera; Maysara Orabi; mohammad@futuretrendsest.com (mohammad@futuretrendsest.com)
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature )
On 7 Oct 2014, at 09:24, Dania Asi <dania@futuretrendsest.com (dania@futuretrendsest.com)> wrote:
Quote: | Kindly note that I asked about the capability of the phones and now I
am asking about the way I can do it to my client's phones, because he
is asking for a demonstration.
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Yet you've not even told us the phones in use. You can't just expect a mailing list to do your work for you. You need to look at the handsets and see what they support, and how they support it. You don't even say if the handsets are SIP or not, the PSTN connectivity is pretty irrelevant.
Quote: | Sales Executive Engineer
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That explains that one.
Steve
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:17 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature ) |
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On Wed, 8 Oct 2014, Dania Asi wrote:
Quote: | Dear Mr. Adam,
Thank you for you kind words and for judging me.
I am a system integrator and I have a whale clients in UAE , I will not
proceed further in dealing with Asterisk because of the lack of support
and because of the rude emails.
I have no idea what is wrong with you people. And I hope you get well
soon from whatever is happening to you.
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You are misjudging this community.
It is staffed by volunteers. Their range of experience and knowledge range
from rank novices to experts that you couldn't afford to hire. They do it
out of the kindness of their hearts and because they have been helped in
the past.
I've been on this list for about 10 years and continue to be amazed at the
knowledge and ingenuity exchanged for 'free.'
People are more likely to help if you include sufficient information and
demonstrate that you have at least tried to resolve your issue. Nobody is
interested in doing your work (be it homework or work-work) for you.
Be thankful there are no 'Carl J. Lydick's on this list. He was a
brilliant VMS programmer back in the day. If you asked an intelligent
question, you would get an amazing answer. If you asked a stupid question
or indicated you had not invested any effort, you might receive an
obfuscated command that would erase your disks if you were to ignorantly
'cut-n-paste' the command.
Asterisk is a fantastic product. It is like a Lego or Erector set. You
have all the bits. It is up to you to fulfill the vision in your head.
If you are looking for paid support or a canned solution, it is available.
You just looked in the wrong place.
Maybe it's just a 'cultural misunderstanding.'
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:09 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature ) |
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Hey Danni,
Having whale client means you ought to ask for paid consulting in first place.
People over here have already told you that Analog phones are not capable of doing paging.
Also so far you haven't indicated what model n which asterisk system your client has. These are the most crucial elements to get desired answers. Do some of these work before asking for help here (we all term these as homework ) or have a paid consultant who would do the needful.
Hope this should set the tone right.
Mitul On 08-Oct-2014 10:48 PM, "Dania Asi" <dania@futuretrendsest.com (dania@futuretrendsest.com)> wrote: Quote: |
Dear Mr. Adam,
Â
Thank you for you kind words and for judging me.
Â
I am a system integrator and I have a whale clients in UAE , I will not proceed further in dealing with Asterisk because of the lack of support and because of the rude emails.
Â
I have no idea what is wrong with you people. And I hope you get well soon from whatever is happening to you.
Â
Â
Best Wishes,
Â
Dania Abu Asi
Sales Executive Engineer
Future Trends Establishment
Abu Dhabi - U.A.E.
Mob : [url=tel:%2B971%2050%204948363]+971 50 4948363[/url]
Off : [url=tel:%2B971%202%206730666]+971 2 6730666[/url]
Fax : [url=tel:%2B971%202%206734888]+971 2 6734888[/url]
Â
From: Adam Goldberg [mailto:adam@agp-llc.com (adam@agp-llc.com)]
Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 8:51 PM
To: Dania Asi
Subject: FW: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature )
Â
I suggest that your question amounts to "please do my homework for me."Â This may be understandable given that you are a recent grad and probably don't have much experience in business communication and/or Asterisk complexities.
Â
You cannot expect a mailing list to rush to answer vague, unanswerable questions -- nor emails that don't show that you've tried to answer the question first.Â
Â
Consider, if I asked:
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               "I don't understand how to set up Asterisk. Can someone tell me how to do that?"
vs.
Â
"I have a Dell R210-II with 32g of memory and two gigabit ethernet interfaces, I've installed Asterisk from the FreePBX Distro v9.99 and have an assortment of Polycom and Snom IP phones. I've configured paging as described in http://wiki.snom.com/Interoperability/PBX/Asterisk and http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+Page, and it is working for the Snom phones but not the Polycom phones. Can someone point me at what it's going to take to make the Polycom phones work?"
Â
I’d expect to get attempts at an answer to the second one, but would expect snide and rude comments (at best) to the first one.
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Adam Goldberg
AGP, LLC
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From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com) [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com)] On Behalf Of Don Kelly
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 9:38 AM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature )
Â
JG confirmed that "it" is possible, but "it" has not been defined.
Â
Without knowing what kind of instruments you are using, a possible "it"
would be for a party to dial a 4-digit extension number to talk to someone internally, completing a call without using the PRI trunks.
Â
 --Don
Â
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From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com)
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com)] On Behalf Of Dania Asi
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 3:41 AM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Cc: 'Irene Galera'; 'Maysara Orabi'; mohammad@futuretrendsest.com (mohammad@futuretrendsest.com)
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature )
Â
Dear Mr. Mitual,
Â
Kindly check the attached mail where Mr. JG confirmed to me that is possible and I already informed my client of that.
Â
Â
Dear Mr. Steve,
Â
I am not expecting a mailing list to do any work for me. All I was asking is for you to guide me because this is the first time we deal with Asterisk phones.
Â
Â
Best Wishes,
Â
Dania Abu Asi
Sales Executive Engineer
Â
Future Trends Establishment
Abu Dhabi - U.A.E.
Mob : [url=tel:%2B971%2050%204948363]+971 50 4948363[/url]
Off : [url=tel:%2B971%202%206730666]+971 2 6730666[/url]
Fax : [url=tel:%2B971%202%206734888]+971 2 6734888[/url]
Â
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From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com)
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com)] On Behalf Of Steven Howes
Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 12:34 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Cc: Irene Galera; Maysara Orabi; mohammad@futuretrendsest.com (mohammad@futuretrendsest.com)
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature )
Â
On 7 Oct 2014, at 09:24, Dania Asi <dania@futuretrendsest.com (dania@futuretrendsest.com)> wrote:
Quote: | Kindly note that I asked about the capability of the phones and now I
am asking about the way I can do it to my client's phones, because he
is asking for a demonstration.
| Â
Yet you've not even told us the phones in use. You can't just expect a mailing list to do your work for you. You need to look at the handsets and see what they support, and how they support it. You don't even say if the handsets are SIP or not, the PSTN connectivity is pretty irrelevant.
Â
Quote: | Sales Executive Engineer
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That explains that one.
Â
Steve
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:27 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Phone ( Telecom feature ) |
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Please don't top-post.
Quote: | On 08-Oct-2014 10:48 PM, "Dania Asi" <dania@futuretrendsest.com> wrote:
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Quote: | I am a system integrator and I have a whale clients in UAE , I will not
proceed further in dealing with Asterisk because of the lack of support
and because of the rude emails.
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On Thu, 9 Oct 2014, Mitul Limbani wrote:
Quote: | Hey Danni,
Having whale client means you ought to ask for paid consulting in first
place.
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After a couple of off-list exchanges, I suspect (no facts) the situation
is this:
She was sold an Asterisk system for one of her clients from an
unscrupulous vendor. When she asked the vendor for support, she was told
'we' (the mailing list) ARE her support.
Thus, it was not entirely unreasonable for her to assume that the support
she had paid for would be familiar with her configuration and would be
eager to provide service since "As vendors you are supposed to be
interested to expand your business area and as I told you we have a huge
database of clients that need such products..." (Actual quote.)
I chalk up the 'rude and non-professional' accusations as 'unmet
expectations' and 'cultural differences.'
Again, no facts in evidence, just my interpretation from the off-list
exchanges. My apologies in advance if I've misinterpreted the situation.
I've copied the parties to the off-list exchanges in case they would care
to clarify my assumptions.
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