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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:47 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Ubuntu 12.04 LTS / Asterisk / apt-get upgra

Hi, I have Asterisk 11 with DAHDI (Sangoma E1-Card) running on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Asterisk and DAHDI-Drivers are installed from source. When doing an "apt-get upgrade" the system packages will be update but sometimes Asterisk is broken. Which packages do I have to exclude when I do not have time to recompile Asterisk/Dahdi each time? libc? Kernel-Packages? Thanks so far! -Thorsten- -- _____________________________________________________________________ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users

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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:11 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Ubuntu 12.04 LTS / Asterisk / apt-get upgra

Quote:

When doing an "apt-get upgrade" the system packages will be update but
sometimes Asterisk is broken.

Can you describe what is broken?

Quote:

Which packages do I have to exclude when I
do not have time to recompile Asterisk/Dahdi each time? libc?
Kernel-Packages?

The way things are set up is that you have to compile the wanpipe drivers always against the
current versions of the kernel and DAHDI. You could change that with a pretty high risk of
breaking things, mainly due to frequent changes in the network related parts of the kernel.

I have never seen something break, except for kernel updates, but my systems are RedHat based. I
doubt that the Debian based systems are much different as far as interface changes are concerned
for a certain release. My guess is that you should be fine if you do not execute "apt-get
dist-upgrade".

jg

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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:56 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Ubuntu 12.04 LTS / Asterisk / apt-get upgra

On Friday 10 Oct 2014, Thorsten Göllner wrote:

Quote:

Hi,

I have Asterisk 11 with DAHDI (Sangoma E1-Card) running on Ubuntu 12.04
LTS. Asterisk and DAHDI-Drivers are installed from source.

When doing an "apt-get upgrade" the system packages will be update but
sometimes Asterisk is broken. Which packages do I have to exclude when I
do not have time to recompile Asterisk/Dahdi each time? libc?
Kernel-Packages?

Thanks so far!
-Thorsten-

DAHDI is basically a set of kernel modules, which *by design* work only with
the exact kernel for which they were compiled; so avoid any upgrade to the
kernel if you don't have time to rebuild DAHDI.

C library changes potentially could require anything to be recompiled; but in
practice almost invariably don't, precisely because of how much breakage would
potentially be caused. If a C library update requires recompilation of other
packages then either there has been a Flag Day (and not the sort where mean
people stay indoors!) or you're running Gentoo.

I believe there is a way in Debian, and therefore probably Ubuntu, to have
some script execute automatically following a kernel update. So you might
even be able to have DAHDI self-rebuild following a kernel update.

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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:16 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Ubuntu 12.04 LTS / Asterisk / apt-get upgra

On Ubuntu I've made an ugly shell script and put it inÂ /etc/kernel/postinst.d/

This is the script:

#!/bin/bash
#Kernel version being installed is param 1

kernel_installing=$1

cd /usr/src/dahdi

KVERS=$kernel_installing make

KVERS=$kernel_installing make install

You'll also need to reboot the system.

On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:55 PM, A J Stiles <asterisk_list@earthshod.co.uk (asterisk_list@earthshod.co.uk)> wrote:

Quote:

On Friday 10 Oct 2014, Thorsten GÃ¶llner wrote:

Quote:

DAHDI is basically a set of kernel modules, which *by design* work only with
the exact kernel for which they were compiled; so avoid any upgrade to the
kernel if you don't have time to rebuild DAHDI.

C library changes potentially could require anything to be recompiled; but in
practice almost invariably don't, precisely because of how much breakage would
potentially be caused.Â If a C library update requires recompilation of other
packages then either there has been a Flag DayÂ (and not the sort where mean
people stay indoors!)Â or you're running Gentoo.

I believe there is a way in Debian, and therefore probably Ubuntu, to have
some script execute automatically following a kernel update.Â So you might
even be able to have DAHDI self-rebuild following a kernel update.

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list, change address to asterisk1list at earthshod dot co dot uk .

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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:32 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Ubuntu 12.04 LTS / Asterisk / apt-get upgra

On Fri, 10 Oct 2014 13:11:10 +0200
jg <webaccounts173@jgoettgens.de> wrote:

Quote:

When doing an "apt-get upgrade" the system packages will be update but
sometimes Asterisk is broken.

Can you describe what is broken?

Hi jg and All.

I will go in this flow and say I reported a similar bug at Launchpad and I got
no answers up to this moment. Please see:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1338578

Every kernel upgrade is a nightmare here!

Who can help us?

Regards

Ethy

Quote:

Which packages do I have to exclude when I
do not have time to recompile Asterisk/Dahdi each time? libc?
Kernel-Packages?

The way things are set up is that you have to compile the wanpipe drivers
always against the current versions of the kernel and DAHDI. You could change
that with a pretty high risk of breaking things, mainly due to frequent
changes in the network related parts of the kernel.

I have never seen something break, except for kernel updates, but my systems
are RedHat based. I doubt that the Debian based systems are much different as
far as interface changes are concerned for a certain release. My guess is
that you should be fine if you do not execute "apt-get dist-upgrade".

jg

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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:54 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Ubuntu 12.04 LTS / Asterisk / apt-get upgra

Quote:

I believe there is a way in Debian, and therefore probably Ubuntu, to have
some script execute automatically following a kernel update. So you might
even be able to have DAHDI self-rebuild following a kernel update.

I went back to do everything by hand, if necessary. Thorsten and other Wanpipe users need to
synchronize DAHDI, the kernel, and the Wanpipe drivers. I don't use Asterisk modules that depend
too much on the distro or kernel version, but other setups might have more dependencies.

Essentially you can do a kernel update only if the Wanpipe drivers are consistent with the DAHDI
and kernel versions and DAHDI works only if the kernel doesn't object, which happens once in a
while. The wanpipe drivers rarely (=never) work with the most recent kernels, so running a
production machine with the latest beta Fedora or Ubuntu, is something for extreme athletes.

jg

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