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stotaro at totarotechn... Guest
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Had it with Dell Garbage |
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On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Matt <mhoppes at gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: | I've had it with Dell server garbage. They seem to change RAID
controllers as much as I change socks, and then the controllers don't work
with Linux, unless you load a new driver. They sell servers with a PCI-e
slot in them, but then you get it and find out the RAID controller is using
the PCI-e slot! Their sales folks are dumber than rocks, and they change
them more often than I change underwear.
[end rant].
Can anyone recommend an IBM or Gateway server that you have used with
Asterisk and are happy with, and which will support RAID-1 or RAID-5 and has
room for one or two PCI-express interface cards?
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stotaro at totarotechn... Guest
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:21 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Had it with Dell Garbage |
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On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:
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On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Matt <mhoppes at gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: | I've had it with Dell server garbage. They seem to change RAID
controllers as much as I change socks, and then the controllers don't work
with Linux, unless you load a new driver. They sell servers with a PCI-e
slot in them, but then you get it and find out the RAID controller is using
the PCI-e slot! Their sales folks are dumber than rocks, and they change
them more often than I change underwear.
[end rant].
Can anyone recommend an IBM or Gateway server that you have used with
Asterisk and are happy with, and which will support RAID-1 or RAID-5 and has
room for one or two PCI-express interface cards?
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HP DL380 is my baby.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
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IBM X series are also great, I have deployed many, I just have a thing for HP.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro |
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erikerik at gmail.com Guest
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:26 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Had it with Dell Garbage |
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On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Matt <mhoppes at gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: | I've had it with Dell server garbage. They seem to change RAID
controllers as much as I change socks, and then the controllers don't work
with Linux, unless you load a new driver. They sell servers with a PCI-e
slot in them, but then you get it and find out the RAID controller is using
the PCI-e slot! Their sales folks are dumber than rocks, and they change
them more often than I change underwear.
[end rant].
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Ouch!
I can't speak to the PCIe issue, but I've never in my life had
compatibility issues with the Dell RAID controllers. What kernel are
you on?
Quote: | Can anyone recommend an IBM or Gateway server that you have used with
Asterisk and are happy with, and which will support RAID-1 or RAID-5 and has
room for one or two PCI-express interface cards?
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Gateway server? Ewwwww.
Have you looked into the new Sun servers? I've been researching them
lately, and they have some compelling offerrings. They also offer
full support for linux as well...
-erik |
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Mike at Trest.COM Guest
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Had it with Dell Garbage |
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Steve,
I have fielded several hundred Asterisk and related VoIP boxes.
I buy SuperMicro 1-U units mostly. I have also used their larger
units with RAID and a full load of ULTRA SCSI (for MySql application).
I like these because, after bad experience with DELL/COMPAQ/HP/IBM
compatibility issue, the supermicro systems always load and work with
all of the Fedora kernels will just with their RAID controllers.
..mike.. |
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asterisk at eaglequest... Guest
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:19 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Had it with Dell Garbage |
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I haven't bought from them recently, but I also have bought many servers
and desktop systems from J & N. I have at least 3 servers they built that
are over 8 years old and still running in production. I've bought like 8
servers, and a half-dozen desktop systems from them since around 1996 or
1997. Again, I can't speak for anything recently, but they have been a
legitimate company, reliable, and honest to deal with. I used to deal
directly with the owner (Jerry Jacobsen) -- now they have a lot more
employees so you're likely better off just dealing with whoever answers
the phone because they're a lot bigger now. They're definitely not a
fly-by-night company... it should be safe for you to give them a try if
you like what they offer.
Lately I buy Supermicro 1U servers and add my own cpu/ram/hd. I had a
batch of bad motherboards, but other than that I like the quality so far.
One word of warning... their warranty is stupid. The warranty starts the
day they sell the product to the reseller/warehouse company... NOT to the
end user. So if you buy from Tech Data or Newegg and it sits on the shelf
in their warehouse for a month, you only get an 11 month warranty because
the clock starts ticking when it leaves Supermicro's plant. They consider
Tech Data or Newegg to be their customer, not you.
If it sits in the warehouse for a year, then you get NO WARRANTY.
Based on my dealings with J&N however, I think they would honor the full
warranty even if Supermicro doesn't, if you buy it from J&N. They're
definitely not perfect (in the early days they were slow to ship, but that
seems to be better now... and last time I requested a custom quote they
never got back to me) but they won't cheat you and they stand behind what
they sell. I'd deal with them again if I felt they had what I needed at
the right price (or even reasonably close).
-- Nick
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008, John covici wrote:
Quote: | I had a server built for me by J and N Computer Services
http://www.jncs.com which is using a Super Micro c2sbe MB which I
think has what you need plus 4 PCI-32 slots! Its a nice MB and I have
an e8400 cpu in it.
on Tuesday 02/26/2008 Matt(mhoppes at gmail.com) wrote
Quote: | I've had it with Dell server garbage. They seem to change RAID
controllers as much as I change socks, and then the controllers don't work
with Linux, unless you load a new driver. They sell servers with a PCI-e
slot in them, but then you get it and find out the RAID controller is using
the PCI-e slot! Their sales folks are dumber than rocks, and they change
them more often than I change underwear.
[end rant].
Can anyone recommend an IBM or Gateway server that you have used with
Asterisk and are happy with, and which will support RAID-1 or RAID-5 and has
room for one or two PCI-express interface cards?
I've had it with Dell server garbage. They seem to change RAID controllers as much as I change socks, and then the controllers don't work with Linux, unless you load a new driver. They sell servers with a PCI-e slot in them, but then you get it and find out the RAID controller is using the PCI-e slot! Their sales folks are dumber than rocks, and they change them more often than I change underwear.<br>
[end rant].<br><br>Can anyone recommend an IBM or Gateway server that you have used with Asterisk and are happy with, and which will support RAID-1 or RAID-5 and has room for one or two PCI-express interface cards?<br>
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asterisk-users at conr... Guest
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Had it with Dell Garbage |
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I second Sun and supermicro.
Sun was really cool on the management facilities, the linux
compatibility and the speed was nice too.
Supermicro (opteron series) always amazes me how fast they are. They
really *feel* fast
Only ever used support on supermicro and it was excellent. My box froze
and after I send them the opteron built-in exception log they identified
a problem with one of the DIMMs, told me which one and sent me a
replacement. No fuss with the old one either, I threw it away.
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dcole at hcit.com.au Guest
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:24 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Had it with Dell Garbage |
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We currently using the x service servers as well, never had any problems with them.
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
Sent: Wednesday, 27 February 2008 7:22 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Had it with Dell Garbage
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:
Quote: |
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Matt <mhoppes at gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: | I've had it with Dell server garbage. They seem to change RAID
controllers as much as I change socks, and then the controllers don't work
with Linux, unless you load a new driver. They sell servers with a PCI-e
slot in them, but then you get it and find out the RAID controller is using
the PCI-e slot! Their sales folks are dumber than rocks, and they change
them more often than I change underwear.
[end rant].
Can anyone recommend an IBM or Gateway server that you have used with
Asterisk and are happy with, and which will support RAID-1 or RAID-5 and has
room for one or two PCI-express interface cards?
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HP DL380 is my baby.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
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IBM X series are also great, I have deployed many, I just have a thing for HP.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
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jkinard at closeup.org Guest
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:51 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Had it with Dell Garbage |
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Just don't use T1 cards w/ TigerJet chipsets in them on DL385's (and very likely, 380's as well). I just learned this the hard way.
--J
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From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com]On Behalf Of Norman Franke
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 5:27 PM
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Had it with Dell Garbage
On Feb 26, 2008, at 4:13 PM, asterisk-users-request at lists.digium.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Matt < mhoppes at gmail.com> wrote:
I've had it with Dell server garbage. They seem to change RAID
controllers as much as I change socks, and then the controllers don't work
with Linux, unless you load a new driver. They sell servers with a PCI-e
slot in them, but then you get it and find out the RAID controller is using
the PCI-e slot! Their sales folks are dumber than rocks, and they change
them more often than I change underwear.
[end rant].
Can anyone recommend an IBM or Gateway server that you have used with
Asterisk and are happy with, and which will support RAID-1 or RAID-5 and has
room for one or two PCI-express interface cards?
HP DL380 is my baby.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
Ditto. We've been using HPs for a while without problem. I'm currently using a DL380 (a recent quad processor one) and it screams.
-Norman
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stotaro at totarotechn... Guest
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:36 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Had it with Dell Garbage |
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Sangoma cards work a treat in a HP DL380 or 320/260 for that matter.
I just like having two power supplies and hot swap RAID 5 plus a few
extra slots.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Joshua Kinard <jkinard at closeup.org> wrote:
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Just don't use T1 cards w/ TigerJet chipsets in them on DL385's (and very
likely, 380's as well). I just learned this the hard way.
--J
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com]On Behalf Of Norman Franke
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 5:27 PM
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Had it with Dell Garbage
On Feb 26, 2008, at 4:13 PM, asterisk-users-request at lists.digium.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Matt <mhoppes at gmail.com> wrote:
I've had it with Dell server garbage. They seem to change RAID
controllers as much as I change socks, and then the controllers don't work
with Linux, unless you load a new driver. They sell servers with a PCI-e
slot in them, but then you get it and find out the RAID controller is using
the PCI-e slot! Their sales folks are dumber than rocks, and they change
them more often than I change underwear.
[end rant].
Can anyone recommend an IBM or Gateway server that you have used with
Asterisk and are happy with, and which will support RAID-1 or RAID-5 and has
room for one or two PCI-express interface cards?
HP DL380 is my baby.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
Ditto. We've been using HPs for a while without problem. I'm currently using
a DL380 (a recent quad processor one) and it screams.
-Norman
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ex.vitorino at gmail.com Guest
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:05 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Had it with Dell Garbage |
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On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Joshua Kinard <jkinard at closeup.org> wrote:
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Just don't use T1 cards w/ TigerJet chipsets in them on DL385's (and very
likely, 380's as well). I just learned this the hard way.
--J
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...can you expand on that please ? I'm on my way to getting one of the
newer Digium TE220B PCIe dual T1/E1 to put on such a system. How
can I tell if the card has a TigerJet chipset ?
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dwright at d2-tech.com Guest
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:01 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Had it with Dell Garbage |
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I've used lots of Digium T1 cards on DL380 / DL320's without a hiccup.
-Darren
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From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com on behalf of Joshua Kinard
Sent: Tue 2/26/2008 5:51 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Had it with Dell Garbage
Just don't use T1 cards w/ TigerJet chipsets in them on DL385's (and very likely, 380's as well). I just learned this the hard way.
--J
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com]On Behalf Of Norman Franke
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 5:27 PM
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Had it with Dell Garbage
On Feb 26, 2008, at 4:13 PM, asterisk-users-request at lists.digium.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Matt <mhoppes at gmail.com> wrote:
I've had it with Dell server garbage. They seem to change RAID
controllers as much as I change socks, and then the controllers don't work
with Linux, unless you load a new driver. They sell servers with a PCI-e
slot in them, but then you get it and find out the RAID controller is using
the PCI-e slot! Their sales folks are dumber than rocks, and they change
them more often than I change underwear.
[end rant].
Can anyone recommend an IBM or Gateway server that you have used with
Asterisk and are happy with, and which will support RAID-1 or RAID-5 and has
room for one or two PCI-express interface cards?
HP DL380 is my baby.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
Ditto. We've been using HPs for a while without problem. I'm currently using a DL380 (a recent quad processor one) and it screams.
-Norman
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:54 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Had it with Dell Garbage |
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On Monday 03 March 2008 21:05:43 Ex Vito wrote:
Quote: | On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Joshua Kinard <jkinard at closeup.org> wrote:
Quote: | Just don't use T1 cards w/ TigerJet chipsets in them on DL385's (and very
likely, 380's as well). I just learned this the hard way.
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...can you expand on that please ? I'm on my way to getting one of the
newer Digium TE220B PCIe dual T1/E1 to put on such a system. How
can I tell if the card has a TigerJet chipset ?
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None of the current cards are based on TigerJet chipsets.
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tzafrir.cohen at xorco... Guest
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:54 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Had it with Dell Garbage |
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On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 03:05:43AM +0000, Ex Vito wrote:
Quote: | ...can you expand on that please ? I'm on my way to getting one of the
newer Digium TE220B PCIe dual T1/E1 to put on such a system. How
can I tell if the card has a TigerJet chipset ?
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Off-topic:
Are those just the cards that show up as "TigetJet" "ISDN Modem" or
"Network device" on lspci?
(and no, the TE220B is not among them)
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icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com
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ex.vitorino at gmail.com Guest
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:38 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Had it with Dell Garbage |
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On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 7:54 AM, Tzafrir Cohen <tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com> wrote:
Quote: | On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 03:05:43AM +0000, Ex Vito wrote:
Quote: | ...can you expand on that please ? I'm on my way to getting one of the
newer Digium TE220B PCIe dual T1/E1 to put on such a system. How
can I tell if the card has a TigerJet chipset ?
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Off-topic:
Are those just the cards that show up as "TigetJet" "ISDN Modem" or
"Network device" on lspci?
(and no, the TE220B is not among them)
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Tzafrir, Tilghman, Darren,
...thanks for the feedback.
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steven.kurylo at aviaw... Guest
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:29 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Had it with Dell Garbage |
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Ex Vito wrote:
Quote: | On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Joshua Kinard <jkinard at closeup.org> wrote:
Quote: | Just don't use T1 cards w/ TigerJet chipsets in them on DL385's (and very
likely, 380's as well). I just learned this the hard way.
--J
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...can you expand on that please ? I'm on my way to getting one of the
newer Digium TE220B PCIe dual T1/E1 to put on such a system.
| So far I'm having nothing but problems with my DL360's and TE220B's.
While many of the problems are slowly starting to seem to like problems
with the telco, some of them definitely aren't.
I can't pass the loop back test (patlooptest) unless the hpasmd (the
system management software) has been stopped. Though I will try
asterisk and zaptel 1.4 soon to see if that helps. |
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