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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:46 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk based UNIX Reply with quote

Hi All;

Anyone tried to install Asterisk based on UNIX (not
linux)? Which UNIX was good to work with Asterisk?

Regards
Bilal

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:04 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk based UNIX Reply with quote

bilal ghayyad wrote:
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Hi All;

Anyone tried to install Asterisk based on UNIX (not
linux)? Which UNIX was good to work with Asterisk?

Linux is UNIX, for intents and purposes related to Asterisk.

Try *BSD.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk based UNIX Reply with quote

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Alex Balashov wrote:
Linux is UNIX, for intents and purposes related to Asterisk.

Well... not so much! If you want "real" UNIX, go for a BSD or
God forbid, SCO OpenServer.

Their pedigree is from AT&T UNIX (SYS V Rel 4?) which is considered
to be the "real" UNIX. However, as time has gone by, Linux has
far surpassed them. So, as for UNIX-like operating systems, Linux
is one of the best "UNIX-like" operating systems. Mac OS X is based
on BSD - so, if you want "real" UNIX, it could be a choice too...

Linux is my choice. Just my 2 cents.

SCO OpenServer? Well, valued even less than my 2 cents!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:46 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk based UNIX Reply with quote

Bill Andersen wrote:
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Quote:
Alex Balashov wrote:
Linux is UNIX, for intents and purposes related to Asterisk.

Well... not so much! If you want "real" UNIX, go for a BSD or
God forbid, SCO OpenServer.

Their pedigree is from AT&T UNIX (SYS V Rel 4?) which is considered
to be the "real" UNIX. However, as time has gone by, Linux has
far surpassed them. So, as for UNIX-like operating systems, Linux
is one of the best "UNIX-like" operating systems. Mac OS X is based
on BSD - so, if you want "real" UNIX, it could be a choice too...

Linux is my choice. Just my 2 cents.

SCO OpenServer? Well, valued even less than my 2 cents!

Yes, all true.

This is why I was not looking to get into this debate and added the
qualifier that it's UNIX as it relates to Asterisk. Smile

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hwit at a-domani.nl
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:48 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk based UNIX Reply with quote

On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 14:46 -0800, bilal ghayyad wrote:
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Hi All;

Anyone tried to install Asterisk based on UNIX (not
linux)? Which UNIX was good to work with Asterisk?

Regards
Bilal

On what ground would you refrain from using any linux based distro?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk based UNIX Reply with quote

On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 05:24:53PM -0600, Bill Andersen wrote:
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Quote:
Alex Balashov wrote:
Linux is UNIX, for intents and purposes related to Asterisk.

Well... not so much! If you want "real" UNIX, go for a BSD or
God forbid, SCO OpenServer.

Their pedigree is from AT&T UNIX (SYS V Rel 4?) which is considered
to be the "real" UNIX. However, as time has gone by, Linux has
far surpassed them. So, as for UNIX-like operating systems, Linux
is one of the best "UNIX-like" operating systems. Mac OS X is based
on BSD - so, if you want "real" UNIX, it could be a choice too...

Actually, "UNIX" [tm] Describes meeting a standard, and not development
history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix#Branding

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carole at vctam.org
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:32 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk based UNIX Reply with quote

bilal ghayyad wrote:
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Anyone tried to install Asterisk based on UNIX (not
linux)? Which UNIX was good to work with Asterisk?

Works fine for us, in a FreeBSD jail. Very lightweight (100K RAM
and .5G disk) and very secure even without a jailed environment.
Also prefer BSD ports to Linux' RPMs or DPKGs with all their
hard-coded dependencies. If you compile you can pick and choose
only the resources you want, but unless you compile from a ports
tree you'll still not get granular updates when new versions are
available.

That's not to say *BSD is better mind you, it has it's pluses and
minuses. Generally what you know is best, but if you run Linux I
recommend Ubuntu. None of the RPM-based distros are half as
secure. Only thing that limits our use of Linux is the monolithic
kernel, which _always_ breaks something when upgraded.

YMMV,
Roger Marquis
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carole at vctam.org
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:10 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk based UNIX Reply with quote

On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Carole Migden wrote:
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Works fine for us, in a FreeBSD jail. Very lightweight (100K RAM
and .5G disk)

Make that 100M RAM, of which only about 20M is used by Asterisk.

Roger
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:21 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk based UNIX Reply with quote

On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:32 AM, Carole Migden <carole at vctam.org> wrote:
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Generally what you know is best

This is close to the best advice I've seen on this list in the last 5
years! The rest is a question of religion Wink
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hwit at a-domani.nl
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:42 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk based UNIX Reply with quote

On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 08:21 +0100, randulo wrote:
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On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:32 AM, Carole Migden <carole at vctam.org> wrote:
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Generally what you know is best

This is close to the best advice I've seen on this list in the last 5
years! The rest is a question of religion Wink


Should have read: The Future Of Telephony (asterisk bible)
It says the same already in the first edition of the book....
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:53 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk based UNIX Reply with quote

On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Hans Witvliet <hwit at a-domani.nl> wrote:

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Should have read: The Future Of Telephony (asterisk bible)
It says the same already in the first edition of the book....

Actually, it's fairly common wisdom outside of mailing lists and IRC Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:39 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk based UNIX Reply with quote

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Actually, "UNIX" [tm] Describes meeting a standard, and not development
history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix#Branding

Absolutely! Which is why I referred to Linux as "Unix-like" and not UNIX.
Linux is NOT licensed to use UNIX(r) per The Open Group's specs.

BSD and Mac OS X are licensed to use UNIX(r).

All this according to the wikipedia entry - I'm certainly no UNIX expert!
Which, of course is a good thing. Otherwise, SCO would be hauling my
butt in to court to testify!!! LOL
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:45 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk based UNIX Reply with quote

On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 09:39:05AM -0600, Bill Andersen wrote:
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Actually, "UNIX" [tm] Describes meeting a standard, and not development
history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix#Branding

Absolutely! Which is why I referred to Linux as "Unix-like" and not UNIX.
Linux is NOT licensed to use UNIX(r) per The Open Group's specs.

BSD and Mac OS X are licensed to use UNIX(r).

"BSD" has many flavours. I don't think any of them is actually certified
by the OpenGroup.

Yeah, and we really care.

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