Sponsor: VoiceMeUp - Corporate & Wholesale VoIP Services

VoIP Mailing List Archives
Mailing list archives for the VoIP community
 SearchSearch 

[asterisk-users] OpenVZ with asterisk 13


 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    VoIP Mailing List Archives Forum Index -> Asterisk Users
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
ikka.tirta at gmail.com
Guest





PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:42 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] OpenVZ with asterisk 13 Reply with quote

Dear all,

Is anyone has experience making Asterisk server with virtual server OPEN-VZ (in proxmox 3.4 box) ?

My boss want to build a production server with it, and it will have +/- 300 sip user (concurrent call maybe < 150 call)


Is it good to go, or not ?


I really hope someone who have experience with it  willing to share with me...

Thanks in advance...


Best Regards,




Ikka - Jakarta, Indonesia
Back to top
mitul at enterux.in
Guest





PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:46 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] OpenVZ with asterisk 13 Reply with quote

Why not use just one single box and create 300 sip clients having 150 odd con calls. OpenVZ might not be a good idea for this sort of volume.
Mitul On 07-Apr-2015 7:12 PM, "Ikka Tirtawidjaja" <ikka.tirta@gmail.com (ikka.tirta@gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
Dear all,

Is anyone has experience making Asterisk server with virtual server OPEN-VZ (in proxmox 3.4 box) ?

My boss want to build a production server with it, and it will have +/- 300 sip user (concurrent call maybe < 150 call)


Is it good to go, or not ?


I really hope someone who have experience with it  willing to share with me...

Thanks in advance...


Best Regards,




Ikka - Jakarta, Indonesia






--
_____________________________________________________________________
-- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com --
New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs:
               http://www.asterisk.org/hello

asterisk-users mailing list
To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
   http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Back to top
ikka.tirta at gmail.com
Guest





PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:57 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] OpenVZ with asterisk 13 Reply with quote

Dear Mitul,

I already told my boss about it, I really want a single box, no virtual, but my boss insist. 
He said that openvz use less resource then KVM (or other virtual for cloud).
I really need a solid analysis to argue with him. 

On the other hand, dahdi   cannot be installed in openvz virtual server. 

I dont have any experience with openvz at all.


Thx,


On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Ikka Tirtawidjaja <ikka.tirta@gmail.com (ikka.tirta@gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
Dear all,

Is anyone has experience making Asterisk server with virtual server OPEN-VZ (in proxmox 3.4 box) ?

My boss want to build a production server with it, and it will have +/- 300 sip user (concurrent call maybe < 150 call)


Is it good to go, or not ?


I really hope someone who have experience with it  willing to share with me...

Thanks in advance...


Best Regards,




Ikka - Jakarta, Indonesia










Back to top
gboelter at gmail.com
Guest





PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:07 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] OpenVZ with asterisk 13 Reply with quote

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

On 04/07/2015 09:41 PM, Ikka Tirtawidjaja wrote:
Quote:
Dear all,

Is anyone has experience making Asterisk server with virtual
server OPEN-VZ (in proxmox 3.4 box) ?

My boss want to build a production server with it, and it will have
+/- 300 sip user (concurrent call maybe < 150 call)

Is it good to go, or not ?

I really hope someone who have experience with it willing to share
with me...

Thanks in advance...


Best Regards,


Ikka - Jakarta, Indonesia




Guess we are talking about a callcenter, right?

If, then use a single machine for it, not a VM. And if you can't do
it, use docker instead OpenVZ for a much better performance.

Regards

Guenther
Davao City, Philippines, Planet Earth

- --
DavaoSOFT, the home of ERPel
ERPel, das deutsche Warenwirtschaftssystem fuer LINUX
http://www.davaosoft.com
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2
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=FKrd
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--
_____________________________________________________________________
-- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com --
New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs:
http://www.asterisk.org/hello

asterisk-users mailing list
To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Back to top
mitul at enterux.in
Guest





PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:36 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] OpenVZ with asterisk 13 Reply with quote

Show him this freaking thread, or else ask him to prove it otherwise.
We all here have decades of exp dealing with asterisk.
Mitul On 07-Apr-2015 7:27 PM, "Ikka Tirtawidjaja" <ikka.tirta@gmail.com (ikka.tirta@gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
Dear Mitul,

I already told my boss about it, I really want a single box, no virtual, but my boss insist. 
He said that openvz use less resource then KVM (or other virtual for cloud).
I really need a solid analysis to argue with him. 

On the other hand, dahdi   cannot be installed in openvz virtual server. 

I dont have any experience with openvz at all.


Thx,


On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Ikka Tirtawidjaja <ikka.tirta@gmail.com (ikka.tirta@gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
Dear all,

Is anyone has experience making Asterisk server with virtual server OPEN-VZ (in proxmox 3.4 box) ?

My boss want to build a production server with it, and it will have +/- 300 sip user (concurrent call maybe < 150 call)


Is it good to go, or not ?


I really hope someone who have experience with it  willing to share with me...

Thanks in advance...


Best Regards,




Ikka - Jakarta, Indonesia














--
_____________________________________________________________________
-- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com --
New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs:
               http://www.asterisk.org/hello

asterisk-users mailing list
To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
   http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Back to top
vinicius at aittelecom...
Guest





PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:47 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] OpenVZ with asterisk 13 Reply with quote

I have several large customers (200+ extensions) running on vSphere without issue. Not sure about OpenVZ, thought.

2015-04-07 11:36 GMT-03:00 Mitul Limbani <mitul@enterux.in (mitul@enterux.in)>:
Quote:

Show him this freaking thread, or else ask him to prove it otherwise.
We all here have decades of exp dealing with asterisk.
Mitul On 07-Apr-2015 7:27 PM, "Ikka Tirtawidjaja" <ikka.tirta@gmail.com (ikka.tirta@gmail.com)> wrote:

Quote:
Dear Mitul,

I already told my boss about it, I really want a single box, no virtual, but my boss insist. 
He said that openvz use less resource then KVM (or other virtual for cloud).
I really need a solid analysis to argue with him. 

On the other hand, dahdi   cannot be installed in openvz virtual server. 

I dont have any experience with openvz at all.


Thx,


On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Ikka Tirtawidjaja <ikka.tirta@gmail.com (ikka.tirta@gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
Dear all,

Is anyone has experience making Asterisk server with virtual server OPEN-VZ (in proxmox 3.4 box) ?

My boss want to build a production server with it, and it will have +/- 300 sip user (concurrent call maybe < 150 call)


Is it good to go, or not ?


I really hope someone who have experience with it  willing to share with me...

Thanks in advance...


Best Regards,




Ikka - Jakarta, Indonesia
















--
_____________________________________________________________________
-- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com --
New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs:
               http://www.asterisk.org/hello

asterisk-users mailing list
To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
   http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users


--
_____________________________________________________________________
-- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com --
New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs:
               http://www.asterisk.org/hello

asterisk-users mailing list
To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
   http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Back to top
mitul at enterux.in
Guest





PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:52 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] OpenVZ with asterisk 13 Reply with quote

PBX =! CC my friend.
150 Conc Calls for CC agent is going to be far more expensive then running 200 extn PBX doing hardly 20 Conc Calls.
Load is way too diff. On 07-Apr-2015 8:18 PM, "Vinicius Fontes" <vinicius@aittelecom.com.br (vinicius@aittelecom.com.br)> wrote:
Quote:
I have several large customers (200+ extensions) running on vSphere without issue. Not sure about OpenVZ, thought.

2015-04-07 11:36 GMT-03:00 Mitul Limbani <mitul@enterux.in (mitul@enterux.in)>:
Quote:

Show him this freaking thread, or else ask him to prove it otherwise.
We all here have decades of exp dealing with asterisk.
Mitul On 07-Apr-2015 7:27 PM, "Ikka Tirtawidjaja" <ikka.tirta@gmail.com (ikka.tirta@gmail.com)> wrote:

Quote:
Dear Mitul,

I already told my boss about it, I really want a single box, no virtual, but my boss insist. 
He said that openvz use less resource then KVM (or other virtual for cloud).
I really need a solid analysis to argue with him. 

On the other hand, dahdi   cannot be installed in openvz virtual server. 

I dont have any experience with openvz at all.


Thx,


On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Ikka Tirtawidjaja <ikka.tirta@gmail.com (ikka.tirta@gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
Dear all,

Is anyone has experience making Asterisk server with virtual server OPEN-VZ (in proxmox 3.4 box) ?

My boss want to build a production server with it, and it will have +/- 300 sip user (concurrent call maybe < 150 call)


Is it good to go, or not ?


I really hope someone who have experience with it  willing to share with me...

Thanks in advance...


Best Regards,




Ikka - Jakarta, Indonesia
















--
_____________________________________________________________________
-- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com --
New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs:
               http://www.asterisk.org/hello

asterisk-users mailing list
To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
   http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users


--
_____________________________________________________________________
-- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com --
New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs:
               http://www.asterisk.org/hello

asterisk-users mailing list
To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
   http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users




--
_____________________________________________________________________
-- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com --
New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs:
               http://www.asterisk.org/hello

asterisk-users mailing list
To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
   http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Back to top
mitul at enterux.in
Guest





PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:53 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] OpenVZ with asterisk 13 Reply with quote

I guess best way for your boss to learn is to deploy a box once and get bombed and then follow what ppl said here.
Both modes u should be the happy guy u see, u will get paid twice for same work !!!
Mitul On 07-Apr-2015 7:27 PM, "Ikka Tirtawidjaja" <ikka.tirta@gmail.com (ikka.tirta@gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
Dear Mitul,

I already told my boss about it, I really want a single box, no virtual, but my boss insist. 
He said that openvz use less resource then KVM (or other virtual for cloud).
I really need a solid analysis to argue with him. 

On the other hand, dahdi   cannot be installed in openvz virtual server. 

I dont have any experience with openvz at all.


Thx,


On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Ikka Tirtawidjaja <ikka.tirta@gmail.com (ikka.tirta@gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
Dear all,

Is anyone has experience making Asterisk server with virtual server OPEN-VZ (in proxmox 3.4 box) ?

My boss want to build a production server with it, and it will have +/- 300 sip user (concurrent call maybe < 150 call)


Is it good to go, or not ?


I really hope someone who have experience with it  willing to share with me...

Thanks in advance...


Best Regards,




Ikka - Jakarta, Indonesia














--
_____________________________________________________________________
-- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com --
New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs:
               http://www.asterisk.org/hello

asterisk-users mailing list
To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
   http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Back to top
ikka.tirta at gmail.com
Guest





PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:14 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] OpenVZ with asterisk 13 Reply with quote

Dear Guenther B.

This server is not for call center. Its for office and appartment with +/- 900 sip users.

The asterisk server will be split to 3 OpenVZ Virtual server in 1 proxmox server (but they will have clustering server in another proxmox server) and 1 database server (mysql), and it also use OpenVZ - Proxmox server. 

If its for call center with 300 concurrent call, I already have my experience with that situation, that I use 3 server, 1 for asterisk, 1 for database, and 1 for web application.


Dear Mitul L.

Yes, I will do that. I dont know why my boss love openvz so much. But he is a stubborn man...


Thx & best regards...





On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Mitul Limbani <mitul@enterux.in (mitul@enterux.in)> wrote:
Quote:

Show him this freaking thread, or else ask him to prove it otherwise.
We all here have decades of exp dealing with asterisk.
Mitul On 07-Apr-2015 7:27 PM, "Ikka Tirtawidjaja" <ikka.tirta@gmail.com (ikka.tirta@gmail.com)> wrote:

Quote:
Dear Mitul,

I already told my boss about it, I really want a single box, no virtual, but my boss insist. 
He said that openvz use less resource then KVM (or other virtual for cloud).
I really need a solid analysis to argue with him. 

On the other hand, dahdi   cannot be installed in openvz virtual server. 

I dont have any experience with openvz at all.


Thx,


On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Ikka Tirtawidjaja <ikka.tirta@gmail.com (ikka.tirta@gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
Dear all,

Is anyone has experience making Asterisk server with virtual server OPEN-VZ (in proxmox 3.4 box) ?

My boss want to build a production server with it, and it will have +/- 300 sip user (concurrent call maybe < 150 call)


Is it good to go, or not ?


I really hope someone who have experience with it  willing to share with me...

Thanks in advance...


Best Regards,




Ikka - Jakarta, Indonesia
















--
_____________________________________________________________________
-- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com --
New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs:
               http://www.asterisk.org/hello

asterisk-users mailing list
To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
   http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users


--
_____________________________________________________________________
-- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com --
New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs:
               http://www.asterisk.org/hello

asterisk-users mailing list
To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
   http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Back to top
lists at jttech.se
Guest





PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:49 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] OpenVZ with asterisk 13 Reply with quote

Den 2015-04-07 15:41, Ikka Tirtawidjaja skrev:
Quote:
Dear all,

Is anyone has experience making Asterisk server with virtual server
OPEN-VZ (in proxmox 3.4 box) ?

My boss want to build a production server with it, and it will have +/-
300 sip user (concurrent call maybe < 150 call)


As long as you don't overload the server it works great. I've used
OpenVZ to separate Asterisk instances from each other. For my
application (mostly conferencing) I can put ~ 350 concurrent calls on a
single HP Xeon server.

OpenVZ is not really like KVM but more like Solaris containers or BSD
jails. Docker is mostly using the same Kernel api:s that OpenVZ uses,
but OpenVZ also has some cusom stuff.

If you need Dahdi you will need to give the VE's access to these
devices, there are articles out there that explain how this is done.

Good luck!

--
Johan Wilfer

--
_____________________________________________________________________
-- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com --
New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs:
http://www.asterisk.org/hello

asterisk-users mailing list
To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Back to top
jeff at jeff.net
Guest





PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:25 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] OpenVZ with asterisk 13 Reply with quote

On 04/07/2015 10:48 AM, Johan Wilfer wrote:
Quote:
Den 2015-04-07 15:41, Ikka Tirtawidjaja skrev:
Quote:
Dear all,

Is anyone has experience making Asterisk server with virtual server
OPEN-VZ (in proxmox 3.4 box) ?

My boss want to build a production server with it, and it will have +/-
300 sip user (concurrent call maybe < 150 call)


As long as you don't overload the server it works great. I've used
OpenVZ to separate Asterisk instances from each other. For my
application (mostly conferencing) I can put ~ 350 concurrent calls on
a single HP Xeon server.

OpenVZ is not really like KVM but more like Solaris containers or BSD
jails. Docker is mostly using the same Kernel api:s that OpenVZ uses,
but OpenVZ also has some cusom stuff.

If you need Dahdi you will need to give the VE's access to these
devices, there are articles out there that explain how this is done.

Good luck!


We use LXC (what is under Docker) instead of OpenVZ to separate asterisk
instances, and when Dahdi is needed I typically run an asterisk instance
"on the host" and have SIP trunks between the container and the host
instances.

Cheers,

j

--
_____________________________________________________________________
-- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com --
New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs:
http://www.asterisk.org/hello

asterisk-users mailing list
To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Back to top
mitul at enterux.in
Guest





PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:48 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] OpenVZ with asterisk 13 Reply with quote

With that kind of load, your users shall start complaining about choppy audio or voice clarity on random occasions, and you wont have a clue where to look for the problem.




Regards,
Mitul Limbani,
Business Head,
Enterux Solutions Pvt. Ltd.
110 Reena Complex, Opp. Nathani Steel,
Vidyavihar (W), Mumbai - 400 086. India
http://www.enterux.com/
http://www.entvoice.com/
email: mitul@enterux.in (mitul@enterux.in)
DID: +91-22-71967196
Cell: +91-9820332422





On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Jeff LaCoursiere <jeff@jeff.net (jeff@jeff.net)> wrote:
Quote:
On 04/07/2015 10:48 AM, Johan Wilfer wrote:
Quote:
Den 2015-04-07 15:41, Ikka Tirtawidjaja skrev:
Quote:
Dear all,

Is anyone has experience making Asterisk server with virtual server
OPEN-VZ (in proxmox 3.4 box) ?

My boss want to build a production server with it, and it will have +/-
300 sip user (concurrent call maybe < 150 call)


As long as you don't overload the server it works great. I've used OpenVZ to separate Asterisk instances from each other. For my application (mostly conferencing) I can put ~ 350 concurrent calls on a single HP Xeon server.

OpenVZ is not really like KVM but more like Solaris containers or BSD jails. Docker is mostly using the same Kernel api:s that OpenVZ uses, but OpenVZ also has some cusom stuff.

If you need Dahdi you will need to give the VE's access to these devices, there are articles out there that explain how this is done.

Good luck!


We use LXC (what is under Docker) instead of OpenVZ to separate asterisk instances, and when Dahdi is needed I typically run an asterisk instance "on the host" and have SIP trunks between the container and the host instances.

Cheers,

j

--
_____________________________________________________________________
-- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com --
New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs:
              http://www.asterisk.org/hello

asterisk-users mailing list
To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
  http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users


Back to top
lists at jttech.se
Guest





PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:01 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] OpenVZ with asterisk 13 Reply with quote

Den 2015-04-07 20:47, Mitul Limbani skrev:
Quote:
With that kind of load, your users shall start complaining about choppy
audio or voice clarity on random occasions, and you wont have a clue
where to look for the problem.


That's another issue thought and is not different on a dedicated server.
With proper monitoring of the resources, you can troubleshoot. I've
found voipmonitor.org to be invaluable in that regard.

--
Johan Wilfer

--
_____________________________________________________________________
-- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com --
New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs:
http://www.asterisk.org/hello

asterisk-users mailing list
To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Back to top
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    VoIP Mailing List Archives Forum Index -> Asterisk Users All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group

VoiceMeUp - Corporate & Wholesale VoIP Services