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[oza.4h07 at gmail.com]

Hello,


I'm currently studying what is needed to implement IMAP Voicemail with Asterisk 11 and up.


More precisely, I would like to let users check voicemail with their smartphone from outside (ie not connected to LAN).


My first questions are:


1. What happens if Asterisk cannot reach its configured IMAP store ? Are voicemails locally stored in a persistent directory surviving reboots or are they lost for ever ? Are voicemails saved back to the IMAP store whenever the IMAP store is back online ?


2. From personal experience, would you rate an IMAP migration as an easy or as a difficult task ?

By IMAP migration, I mean changing from one IMAP software to another, on the same or on an other box.



Regards

[mailinglist+asterisk a...]

On 05/05/15 17:52, Olivier wrote:

[oza.4h07 at gmail.com]

imapsync seems a very interesting tool.
Thanks for sharing this.



Now I'm still curious to learn if moving from local file storage to cloud IMAP storage is still resilient to short network outages (without IMAP replication).


Regards


2015-05-06 10:18 GMT+02:00 Gareth Blades <mailinglist+asterisk@dns99.co.uk ([email]mailinglist+asterisk@dns99.co.uk[/email])>:

[mailinglist+asterisk a...]

With regard to your question about the imap store I highly suspect that if it is unavailable when the message is saved then the message will be lost. There are configuration options for the timeout and it might retry a couple of times but Asterisk has no scheduling so I cannot see a way for it to record the fact that there are voicemails waiting to be uploaded.

You are concerned about reliability but this is not an easy thing to fully plan for. You could have a couple of asterisk boxes with config stored in a database which is replicated between two of them. For voicemail and general audio storage this could be on a NAS which replicates data over to a backup. However if the primary NAS fails then because you are using NFS this has a tendancy to hang which will cause problems.
You could use IMAP for storage but you are pushing the file storage issues just furthur away. If you use an IMAP store based on MAILDIR++ then you can have multiple IMAP servers mounting the same data and it will work fine however this approach typically has a poor performance when it comes to stat files in a mailbox so if you have lots of voicemails asterisk will pause a long time. Other systems such as Cyrus which use a database are much faster (sometimes 100 times faster!) but much slower when it comes to storing new files.

We have a redundant pair of opensips servers performing load balancing between multiple asterisk boxes which have a large gluster file storage mounted on each. Thats a large number of machines but is the sort of topology you need for something to be fully fault tolerant.


On 06/05/15 15:15, Olivier wrote:

[asterisk at voipbusine...]

Hey;
    It seems to me that for what you want to do, it would be easier just to email the user the voicemail audio file as an attachment. I believe that when you choose to store voicemails using IMAP, it applies to all of your users which may not be what you want to do.
Regards;
John

From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Olivier
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 12:53 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-users] Recommendations for IMAP Voicemail


Hello,

I'm currently studying what is needed to implement IMAP Voicemail with Asterisk 11 and up.

More precisely, I would like to let users check voicemail with their smartphone from outside (ie not connected to LAN).

My first questions are:

1. What happens if Asterisk cannot reach its configured IMAP store ? Are voicemails locally stored in a persistent directory surviving reboots or are they lost for ever ? Are voicemails saved back to the IMAP store whenever the IMAP store is back online ?

2. From personal experience, would you rate an IMAP migration as an easy or as a difficult task ?

By IMAP migration, I mean changing from one IMAP software to another, on the same or on an other box.



Regards

[oza.4h07 at gmail.com]

2015-05-06 17:51 GMT+02:00 Tech Support <asterisk@voipbusiness.us (asterisk@voipbusiness.us)>:

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On Wednesday 13 May 2015, Olivier wrote:

[asterisk at voipbusine...]

Hey;
What you may want to do is specify the “externnotify” option in voicemail.conf. If you set something like:

externnotify=/full/path/to/imap-script

the script will run right after a voicemail is received so you won't have to worry about any time delays.  The command specified for externnotify is run with the arguments (in this order): context, extension, new voicemails, old voicemails and urgent voicemails. I tried it myself and it works fine for me.
Regards;
John

From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of A J Stiles
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 11:15 AM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Recommendations for IMAP Voicemail



On Wednesday 13 May 2015, Olivier wrote: