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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:14 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Anyone know of a pass through ATA Reply with quote

sipura 3102 set to bridge. Works but I find that when rebooting a PC
bridged it sometimes (randomly) doesnt get a dhcp lease, necessitating a
powercycle of the 3102. I think the PC drops the ethernet as it reb
oots and the sipura doesnt recognise it coming back.

BillK
On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 19:59 -1000, Thermal Wetland wrote:
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Anyone know of a company that makes a pass through ATA?

By pass through I mean have an Ethernet switch built into the ATA,
like most desktop phones have.

All of the dual ethernet ATA's I have seen have WAN/LAN ports, not two
LAN ports.

I fooled around with DMZ etc...but it just doesn't work as well.

Thermal
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:32 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Anyone know of a pass through ATA Reply with quote

Linksys SPA2102 does. It even has the option to auto-detect so if it
is assigned an RFC1819 address it will act as a switch and otherwise
just as a NAT router.

So does Grandstream HT496 (and I'm sure others) but it must be
manually configured.

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 1:59 AM, Thermal Wetland
<thermalwetland at gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Anyone know of a company that makes a pass through ATA?

By pass through I mean have an Ethernet switch built into the ATA, like most
desktop phones have.

All of the dual ethernet ATA's I have seen have WAN/LAN ports, not two LAN
ports.

I fooled around with DMZ etc...but it just doesn't work as well.

Thermal

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:47 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Anyone know of a pass through ATA Reply with quote

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 02:32:54AM -0400, Andreas van dem Helge wrote:
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Linksys SPA2102 does. It even has the option to auto-detect so if it
is assigned an RFC1819 address it will act as a switch and otherwise
just as a NAT router.

Clearly, someone neglected to tell them about ISPs like Rose.NET in
Thomasville, GA, who assign -1918 addresses to their customers over DSL
and cablemodems.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:10 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Anyone know of a pass through ATA Reply with quote

I know about them... KCL.net in Miami does (did?) the same assigning
10.x address for basic home connections...

What's your point? It's configurable on the 2102 as
switch/nat/autodetect, ht496 as nat/switch. If you have such ISP and
want to use the device as a router just manually set the NAT option.

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Jay R. Ashworth <jra at baylink.com> wrote:
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On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 02:32:54AM -0400, Andreas van dem Helge wrote:
Quote:
Linksys SPA2102 does. It even has the option to auto-detect so if it
is assigned an RFC1819 address it will act as a switch and otherwise
just as a NAT router.

Clearly, someone neglected to tell them about ISPs like Rose.NET in
Thomasville, GA, who assign -1918 addresses to their customers over DSL
and cablemodems.

Cheers,
-- jra
--
Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra at baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100
Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24
St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274

Those who cast the vote decide nothing.
Those who count the vote decide everything.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:16 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Anyone know of a pass through ATA Reply with quote

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:10:21PM -0400, Andreas van dem Helge wrote:
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What's your point? It's configurable on the 2102 as
switch/nat/autodetect, ht496 as nat/switch. If you have such ISP and
want to use the device as a router just manually set the NAT option.

My point -- I thought it was fairly clear -- was that I hoped they had,
indeed, put in a knob to override the auto detection; some
manufacturers aren't that smart.

Cheers,
-- jra
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Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100
Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24
St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:41 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Anyone know of a pass through ATA Reply with quote

its not a bad device - I have 2 problems with it. It doesn't do echo cancellation very well & is particularly badly matched to the PSTN here in Oz. Hint: keep it well cooled - echo goes up badly when its hot& it runs very hot if there is no ventilation. I use the 3102 to bridge a mythtv box instead of putting in an extra switch - works except for the occaisional failure to get a dhcp address. I use a linux gateway for dhcp, most devices (3102+mythtv box, lynksys PAP2, bt100 ip phones, wireless and hosts) are all dhcp

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From: "Thermal Wetland" <thermalwetland at gmail.com>
Subj: Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone know of a pass through ATA
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To: billk at iinet.net.au, "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" <asterisk-users at lists.digium.com>

That is awesome. I dont know why the manual doesnt mention that.

I want to have the device use a static IP & the computer use DCHP from a central DHCP server...sounds like it wont be a problem.

Thanks.

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 8:14 PM, W.Kenworthy <billk at iinet.net.au> wrote:
sipura 3102 set to bridge. Works but I find that when rebooting a PC
bridged it sometimes (randomly) doesnt get a dhcp lease, necessitating a
powercycle of the 3102. I think the PC drops the ethernet as it reb
oots and the sipura doesnt recognise it coming back.

BillK



On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 19:59 -1000, Thermal Wetland wrote:
Quote:
Anyone know of a company that makes a pass through ATA?

By pass through I mean have an Ethernet switch built into the ATA,
like most desktop phones have.

All of the dual ethernet ATAs I have seen have WAN/LAN ports, not two
LAN ports.

I fooled around with DMZ etc...but it just doesnt work as well.

Thermal


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:45 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Anyone know of a pass through ATA Reply with quote

SPA1001 is 1FXS only. SPA3102 is 1FXS + 1FXO... if you don't need FXO
why not get the SPA2102? It should be cheaper and you have the extra
port for future use.

On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Thermal Wetland
<thermalwetland at gmail.com> wrote:
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That is good to know.

I will be using the the device to connect a bunch of analog phones back to a
centralized server.

Since each office has only one ethernet connection do I want to:
1. Install a small switch to let a SPA1001 & PC use the one drop
2. Install a SPA3102 to let the PC share the one drop

Even with an extra patch cord and probably the occasional power strip number
one will be cheaper, but #2 seems like a better way to go.

-Thermal



On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 6:41 PM, <billk at iinet.net.au> wrote:
Quote:
its not a bad device - I have 2 problems with it. It doesn't do echo
cancellation very well & is particularly badly matched to the PSTN here in
Oz. Hint: keep it well cooled - echo goes up badly when its hot& it runs
very hot if there is no ventilation. I use the 3102 to bridge a mythtv box
instead of putting in an extra switch - works except for the occaisional
failure to get a dhcp address. I use a linux gateway for dhcp, most devices
(3102+mythtv box, lynksys PAP2, bt100 ip phones, wireless and hosts) are all
dhcp
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From: "Thermal Wetland" <thermalwetland at gmail.com>
Subj: Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone know of a pass through ATA
Date: Sat 15 Mar 2008 10:23
Size: 2K
To: billk at iinet.net.au, "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
Discussion" <asterisk-users at lists.digium.com>
Quote:

That is awesome. I dont know why the manual doesnt mention that.

I want to have the device use a static IP & the computer use DCHP from a
central DHCP server...sounds like it wont be a problem.
Quote:


Thanks.

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 8:14 PM, W.Kenworthy <billk at iinet.net.au> wrote:
sipura 3102 set to bridge. Works but I find that when rebooting a PC
bridged it sometimes (randomly) doesnt get a dhcp lease, necessitating a
powercycle of the 3102. I think the PC drops the ethernet as it reb
oots and the sipura doesnt recognise it coming back.

BillK



On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 19:59 -1000, Thermal Wetland wrote:
Quote:
Anyone know of a company that makes a pass through ATA?

By pass through I mean have an Ethernet switch built into the ATA,
like most desktop phones have.

All of the dual ethernet ATAs I have seen have WAN/LAN ports, not two
LAN ports.

I fooled around with DMZ etc...but it just doesnt work as well.



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