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ken at jots.org
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:48 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Polycom IP 330 w/VLAN? Reply with quote

Hi, all. I see that the Polycom SoundPoint IP 330 supports VLAN... but I
don't quite see how that works. Do you point a non-VLAN'd segment at it
(akin to when you uplink a VLAN_enabled switch), and have the phone
implement the VLAN? Or...? *puzzled*

Thanks much,

-Ken
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:04 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Polycom IP 330 w/VLAN? Reply with quote

On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 04:48:19PM -0400, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote:
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Hi, all. I see that the Polycom SoundPoint IP 330 supports VLAN... but I
don't quite see how that works. Do you point a non-VLAN'd segment at it
(akin to when you uplink a VLAN_enabled switch), and have the phone
implement the VLAN? Or...? *puzzled*

I would personally assume (without looking) that this means that the
phone speaks 802.1q on its uplink, and can assign the phone itself and
any pass-thru jacks to separate VLANs on the attached network.

Is that phone Linux-based? Cause Linux has known how to do 1q for some
time; 2.4 at least, and maybe 2.2...

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:33 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Polycom IP 330 w/VLAN? Reply with quote

The 330/550/650 phones have a built-in 2-port switch that speaks
802.1q. Usual use of this is to send two VLANs down the wire. The
phone is configured to use one, and the phone transparently passes the
other to the phone's PC port. On Cisco, this would be a trunk port
with two VLANs, one for the phone and one for the PC (the latter
usually being the default VLAN). On HP ProCurve, you assign one tagged
and one untagged VLAN to the phone.

The VLAN used by the phone can be configured in several ways:

1. Hard-code it on the phone. Not recommended if you have lots of phones.
2. Auto-discovery using CDP. Requires Cisco or older HP switches.
3. Auto-discovery using DHCP. Disabled by default in SIP 2.1.x.

We use the third option. The phone first does DHCP on the default VLAN
(since it does not yet know which VLAN to use). The DHCP server sends
back the VLAN to use, which cause the phone to send a DHCP release,
reconfigure itself for the new VLAN, and do DHCP again on the new
VLAN. We use this method because we have newer HP switches that have
removed CDP support in favor of LLDP, which Polycom does not (yet?)
support.

-James
On 3/11/08, Ken D'Ambrosio <ken at jots.org> wrote:
Quote:
Hi, all. I see that the Polycom SoundPoint IP 330 supports VLAN... but I
don't quite see how that works. Do you point a non-VLAN'd segment at it
(akin to when you uplink a VLAN_enabled switch), and have the phone
implement the VLAN? Or...? *puzzled*

Thanks much,

-Ken


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:39 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Polycom IP 330 w/VLAN? Reply with quote

Hi James -

Quote:
The VLAN used by the phone can be configured in several ways:

1. Hard-code it on the phone. Not recommended if you have lots of phones.
2. Auto-discovery using CDP. Requires Cisco or older HP switches.
3. Auto-discovery using DHCP. Disabled by default in SIP 2.1.x.

We use the third option. The phone first does DHCP on the default VLAN
(since it does not yet know which VLAN to use). The DHCP server sends
back the VLAN to use, which cause the phone to send a DHCP release,
reconfigure itself for the new VLAN, and do DHCP again on the new
VLAN. We use this method because we have newer HP switches that have
removed CDP support in favor of LLDP, which Polycom does not (yet?)
support.

Hey, thanks! I just learned something new. I've been doing untagged
VLANs with them because they don't properly support CDP. Now I can
get that extra port back for computers. What's the DHCP option you
use to send the VLAN info?

Thanks,
Noah
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