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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:12 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Best timing source? Reply with quote

I am currently having a voice quality problem with one of our
Asterisk servers. We have checked the network and we have found no
problems that could cause the voice to sound cracked and with small
interruptions. I am looking at the timing source for Asterisk and it is
currently using timerfd even though we have an E1 card installed. Is
timerfd better than dahdi? Any recommendations to test if timing may be
a problem for voice quality and DTMF?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:17 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Best timing source? Reply with quote

Carlos Chavez wrote:
Quote:
I am currently having a voice quality problem with one of our Asterisk
servers. We have checked the network and we have found no problems that
could cause the voice to sound cracked and with small interruptions. I
am looking at the timing source for Asterisk and it is currently using
timerfd even though we have an E1 card installed. Is timerfd better than
dahdi? Any recommendations to test if timing may be a problem for voice
quality and DTMF?

What is the scenario and the channels involved? Timing is only used for
things such as playback, music on hold, and ConfBridge. If it's strictly
a two party call then Asterisk forwards media as received.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:23 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Best timing source? Reply with quote

On 4/5/16 3:17 PM, Joshua Colp wrote:
Quote:
Carlos Chavez wrote:
Quote:
I am currently having a voice quality problem with one of our Asterisk
servers. We have checked the network and we have found no problems that
could cause the voice to sound cracked and with small interruptions. I
am looking at the timing source for Asterisk and it is currently using
timerfd even though we have an E1 card installed. Is timerfd better than
dahdi? Any recommendations to test if timing may be a problem for voice
quality and DTMF?

What is the scenario and the channels involved? Timing is only used
for things such as playback, music on hold, and ConfBridge. If it's
strictly a two party call then Asterisk forwards media as received.

The problem appears on all calls, no matter the source or
destination. There are desk phones, softphones and a couple SIP trunks
to another office. They all experience the problem. Calls between
extensions, from or to the E1, from or to trunks. The only scenario
left to try is connecting calls only via the E1 so we completely
eliminate the network side of things and se if we get the same
behaviour. During calls you can hear some background noice and
interruptions in the voice. DTMF fails when we try to dial to external
IVR.

I do not really believe that the fault is in the Asterisk server
but I have to eliminate all posibilities on my side before I can lay
blame on the network infrastructure. I was also just wondering if DAHDI
would not be a better timing source for Asterisk since it is hardware based?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:28 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Best timing source? Reply with quote

Hello,
I am doing a configuration for connecting my server asterisk to a SIP provider. I ask if somebody can give me a basic code or a link to begin well;
Thanks !!!!
Quote:

Le 5 avril 2016 à 23:23, Carlos Chavez <cursor@telecomabmex.com> a écrit :


On 4/5/16 3:17 PM, Joshua Colp wrote:
Quote:

Carlos Chavez wrote:

Quote:
Quote:
I am currently having a voice quality problem with one of our Asterisk>> servers. We have checked the network and we have found no problems that
could cause the voice to sound cracked and with small interruptions. I
am looking at the timing source for Asterisk and it is currently using
timerfd even though we have an E1 card installed. Is timerfd better than
dahdi? Any recommendations to test if timing may be a problem for voice
quality and DTMF?
What is the scenario and the channels involved? Timing is only used
for things such as playback, music on hold, and ConfBridge. If it's
strictly a two party call then Asterisk forwards media as received.

The problem appears on all calls, no matter the source or destination. There are desk phones, softphones and a couple SIP trunks
to another office. They all experience the problem. Calls between
extensions, from or to the E1, from or to trunks. The only scenario
left to try is connecting calls only via the E1 so we completely
eliminate the network side of things and se if we get the same
behaviour. During calls you can hear some background noice and
interruptions in the voice. DTMF fails when we try to dial to external
IVR.

I do not really believe that the fault is in the Asterisk server
but I have to eliminate all posibilities on my side before I can lay
blame on the network infrastructure. I was also just wondering if DAHDI
would not be a better timing source for Asterisk since it is hardware based?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:36 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Best timing source? Reply with quote

Carlos Chavez wrote:
Quote:
On 4/5/16 3:17 PM, Joshua Colp wrote:
Quote:
Carlos Chavez wrote:
Quote:
I am currently having a voice quality problem with one of our Asterisk
servers. We have checked the network and we have found no problems that
could cause the voice to sound cracked and with small interruptions. I
am looking at the timing source for Asterisk and it is currently using
timerfd even though we have an E1 card installed. Is timerfd better than
dahdi? Any recommendations to test if timing may be a problem for voice
quality and DTMF?

What is the scenario and the channels involved? Timing is only used
for things such as playback, music on hold, and ConfBridge. If it's
strictly a two party call then Asterisk forwards media as received.

The problem appears on all calls, no matter the source or destination.
There are desk phones, softphones and a couple SIP trunks to another
office. They all experience the problem. Calls between extensions, from
or to the E1, from or to trunks. The only scenario left to try is
connecting calls only via the E1 so we completely eliminate the network
side of things and se if we get the same behaviour. During calls you can
hear some background noice and interruptions in the voice. DTMF fails
when we try to dial to external IVR.

I do not really believe that the fault is in the Asterisk server but I
have to eliminate all posibilities on my side before I can lay blame on
the network infrastructure. I was also just wondering if DAHDI would not
be a better timing source for Asterisk since it is hardware based?

Either timerfd or dahdi should perform the same. I wouldn't expect dahdi
to improve things unless something was really wrong on the system itself.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:37 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Best timing source? Reply with quote

On Tue, 5 Apr 2016, Mamadou NGOM wrote:

Quote:
I am doing a configuration for connecting my server asterisk to a SIP
provider. I ask if somebody can give me a basic code or a link to begin
well;

1) You should start a fresh thread rather than hijacking an existing
unrelated thread.

2) You should show us what you have done so far.

Most SIP providers have sample snippets for your sip.conf and
extensions.conf files.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:38 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Best timing source? Reply with quote

On Tue, 5 Apr 2016, Mamadou NGOM wrote:

Quote:
I am doing a configuration for connecting my server asterisk to a SIP
provider. I ask if somebody can give me a basic code or a link to begin
well;

0) Don't top-post.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:46 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Best timing source? Reply with quote

On Tuesday 05 Apr 2016, Mamadou NGOM wrote:
Quote:
Hello,
I am doing a configuration for connecting my server asterisk to a SIP
provider. I ask if somebody can give me a basic code or a link to begin
well; Thanks !!!!

Rule One: Start your own topics -- don't jump in on someone else's, unless
it's actually relevant.

Rule Two: Type your reply *after* the thing you are replying to.


Your SIP trunk provider will know how to connect an Asterisk box to them.
That, after all, is what most people are going to be connecting.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:02 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Best timing source? Reply with quote

On 4/5/16 3:17 PM, Joshua Colp wrote:
Quote:
Carlos Chavez wrote:
Quote:
I am currently having a voice quality problem with one of our Asterisk
servers. We have checked the network and we have found no problems that
could cause the voice to sound cracked and with small interruptions. I
am looking at the timing source for Asterisk and it is currently using
timerfd even though we have an E1 card installed. Is timerfd better than
dahdi? Any recommendations to test if timing may be a problem for voice
quality and DTMF?

What is the scenario and the channels involved? Timing is only used
for things such as playback, music on hold, and ConfBridge. If it's
strictly a two party call then Asterisk forwards media as received.


I am starting to think that the problem may be in the server hardware
itself. We are using a Dell R220 with 8gb of ram and 2 hard disks in a
Raid 1 configuration (Linux Raid). We are using CentOS 7. We had to
remove the raid card from the server to install an E1 card (the raid
card was Windows only so no loss there really). Internally everything
sounds good (from E1 to a conference or music) but once you hit a
network interface we start getting pops and drops.

Anyone with this server and Asterisk ever had issues like these?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:40 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Best timing source? Reply with quote

Quote:
On 7/04/2016, at 6:01 AM, Carlos Chavez <cursor@telecomabmex.com> wrote:

Quote:
On 4/5/16 3:17 PM, Joshua Colp wrote:
Carlos Chavez wrote:
Quote:
I am currently having a voice quality problem with one of our Asterisk
servers. We have checked the network and we have found no problems that
could cause the voice to sound cracked and with small interruptions. I
am looking at the timing source for Asterisk and it is currently using
timerfd even though we have an E1 card installed. Is timerfd better than
dahdi? Any recommendations to test if timing may be a problem for voice
quality and DTMF?

What is the scenario and the channels involved? Timing is only used
for things such as playback, music on hold, and ConfBridge. If it's
strictly a two party call then Asterisk forwards media as received.

I am starting to think that the problem may be in the server hardware itself. We are using a Dell R220 with 8gb of ram and 2 hard disks in a Raid 1 configuration (Linux Raid). We are using CentOS 7. We had to remove the raid card from the server to install an E1 card (the raid card was Windows only so no loss there really). Internally everything sounds good (from E1 to a conference or music) but once you hit a network interface we start getting pops and drops.

Anyone with this server and Asterisk ever had issues like these?

Just checking you have your E1 timing set to slave off the upstream. If not you are going to have E1 sync errors which will give you the voice problems you describe

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:01 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Best timing source? Reply with quote

On 4/6/16 2:39 PM, Duncan Turnbull wrote:
Quote:

Quote:
On 7/04/2016, at 6:01 AM, Carlos Chavez <cursor@telecomabmex.com> wrote:

Quote:
On 4/5/16 3:17 PM, Joshua Colp wrote:
Carlos Chavez wrote:
Quote:
I am currently having a voice quality problem with one of our Asterisk
servers. We have checked the network and we have found no problems that
could cause the voice to sound cracked and with small interruptions. I
am looking at the timing source for Asterisk and it is currently using
timerfd even though we have an E1 card installed. Is timerfd better than
dahdi? Any recommendations to test if timing may be a problem for voice
quality and DTMF?
What is the scenario and the channels involved? Timing is only used
for things such as playback, music on hold, and ConfBridge. If it's
strictly a two party call then Asterisk forwards media as received.
I am starting to think that the problem may be in the server hardware itself. We are using a Dell R220 with 8gb of ram and 2 hard disks in a Raid 1 configuration (Linux Raid). We are using CentOS 7. We had to remove the raid card from the server to install an E1 card (the raid card was Windows only so no loss there really). Internally everything sounds good (from E1 to a conference or music) but once you hit a network interface we start getting pops and drops.

Anyone with this server and Asterisk ever had issues like these?

Just checking you have your E1 timing set to slave off the upstream. If not you are going to have E1 sync errors which will give you the voice problems you describe


Dahdi_test gives me a 99.97% average. The problem is present on
all calls (except calling into the E1 to a conference or to MoH). I am
preparing a new server to see if it is a hardware issue.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:21 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Best timing source? Reply with quote

On 07/04/16 09:00, Carlos Chavez wrote:

Quote:
On 4/6/16 2:39 PM, Duncan Turnbull wrote:
Quote:

Quote:
    I am starting to think that the problem may be in the server hardware itself.  We are using a Dell R220 with 8gb of ram and 2 hard disks in a Raid 1 configuration (Linux Raid).  We are using CentOS 7.  We had to remove the raid card from the server to install an E1 card (the raid card was Windows only so no loss there really).  Internally everything sounds good (from E1 to a conference or music) but once you hit a network interface we start getting pops and drops.

    Anyone with this server and Asterisk ever had issues like these?

Just checking you have your E1 timing set to slave off the upstream. If not you are going to have E1 sync errors which will give you the voice problems you describe


    Dahdi_test gives me a 99.97% average.  The problem is present on all calls (except calling into the E1 to a conference or to MoH).  I am preparing a new server to see if it is a hardware issue.

This is the bit I mean, but if you have calls going over the E1 that are okay then its probably not this.

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+PRI

Quote:
# span=<span num>,<timing source>,<line build out (LBO)>,<framing>,<coding>[,yellow]
#
# All T1/E1 spans generate a clock signal on their transmit side. The
# <timing source> parameter determines whether the clock signal from the far
# end of the T1/E1 is used as the master source of clock timing. If it is, our
# own clock will synchronise to it. T1/E1's connected directly or indirectly to
# a PSTN provider (telco) should generally be the first choice to sync to. The
# PSTN will never be a slave to you. You must be a slave to it.
#
# Chose 1 to make the equipment at the far end of the E1/T1 link the preferred
# source of the master clock. Chose 2 to make it the second choice for the master
# clock, if the first choice port fails (the far end dies, a cable breaks, or
# whatever). Chose 3 to make a port the third choice, and so on. If you have, say,
# 2 ports connected to the PSTN, mark those as 1 and 2. The number used for each
# port should be different.
#
# If you choose 0, the port will never be used as a source of timing. This is
# appropriate when you know the far end should always be a slave to you. If the
# port is connected to a channel bank, for example, you should always be its
# master. Any number of ports can be marked as 0.
#
# Incorrect timing sync may cause clicks/noise in the audio, poor quality or failed
# faxes, unreliable modem operation, and is a general all round bad thing.
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