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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:04 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] IAXy device Reply with quote

Hi All;

I have been chocked just when I saw some posts talking
about how much the IAXy is bad Smile -

So I would like to ask, did any one try it later and
wether it is good or not? I am asking this because I
need to use it as it is NAT Transparent (as I read
also, and I did not try it to see how much it is
transparent).

What about codec? Why it is only support g711 and does
not support compressed codec? And what about the IP
address and the DNS usage and the DDNS usage?

What main porblems contain and any advise?

Regards
Bilal
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:24 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] IAXy device Reply with quote

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bilal ghayyad wrote:
Quote:
So I would like to ask, did any one try it later and
wether it is good or not? I am asking this because I
need to use it as it is NAT Transparent (as I read
also, and I did not try it to see how much it is
transparent).

Thousands and thousands and thousands of people use SIP with NAT.

Quote:
What about codec? Why it is only support g711 and does
not support compressed codec? And what about the IP
address and the DNS usage and the DDNS usage?

The IAXy does not support highly compressed codecs, DNS or DDNS.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:50 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] IAXy device Reply with quote

bilal ghayyad wrote:
Quote:
Hi All;

I have been chocked just when I saw some posts talking
about how much the IAXy is bad Smile -

So I would like to ask, did any one try it later and
wether it is good or not? I am asking this because I
need to use it as it is NAT Transparent (as I read
also, and I did not try it to see how much it is
transparent).

What about codec? Why it is only support g711 and does
not support compressed codec? And what about the IP
address and the DNS usage and the DDNS usage?

What main porblems contain and any advise?

Regards
Bilal


____________________________________________________________________________________

The device has no echo cancellation and sounds horrible (lots of echo)
on about half of the analog phones I tried it on. I wouldn't recommend
it unless you absolutely need IAX. It's also very expensive for a 1 port
ATA.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:36 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] IAXy device Reply with quote

Sean Dennis wrote:
Quote:
bilal ghayyad wrote:

Quote:
Hi All;

I have been chocked just when I saw some posts talking
about how much the IAXy is bad Smile -

So I would like to ask, did any one try it later and
wether it is good or not? I am asking this because I
need to use it as it is NAT Transparent (as I read
also, and I did not try it to see how much it is
transparent).

What about codec? Why it is only support g711 and does
not support compressed codec? And what about the IP
address and the DNS usage and the DDNS usage?

What main porblems contain and any advise?

Regards
Bilal


____________________________________________________________________________________


The device has no echo cancellation and sounds horrible (lots of echo)
on about half of the analog phones I tried it on. I wouldn't recommend
it unless you absolutely need IAX. It's also very expensive for a 1 port
ATA.


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Echo may be the result of latency on the network. I've not had any echo
problems that I remember with my IAXy and I make ten calls a day, five
days a week, for the last few years, to all sorts of numbers/areas. I
know that this isn't representative of typical business use, but
residential use, but I've been using in my business and have never been
disappointed Smile

I will agree that's is fairly expensive, but I WOULD recommend it to
people who are on the go often. After setup, it really is plug-n-play IMO.

Moj
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:41 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] IAXy device Reply with quote

You will never get latency on a network low enough for echo to be
perceived as sidetone (like on analog). If you want to get rid of echo
you must cancel echo.

Mojo with Horan & Company, LLC wrote:
Quote:
Sean Dennis wrote:
Quote:
bilal ghayyad wrote:

Quote:
Hi All;

I have been chocked just when I saw some posts talking
about how much the IAXy is bad Smile -

So I would like to ask, did any one try it later and
wether it is good or not? I am asking this because I
need to use it as it is NAT Transparent (as I read
also, and I did not try it to see how much it is
transparent).

What about codec? Why it is only support g711 and does
not support compressed codec? And what about the IP
address and the DNS usage and the DDNS usage?

What main porblems contain and any advise?

Regards
Bilal


____________________________________________________________________________________


The device has no echo cancellation and sounds horrible (lots of echo)
on about half of the analog phones I tried it on. I wouldn't recommend
it unless you absolutely need IAX. It's also very expensive for a 1 port
ATA.


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Echo may be the result of latency on the network. I've not had any echo
problems that I remember with my IAXy and I make ten calls a day, five
days a week, for the last few years, to all sorts of numbers/areas. I
know that this isn't representative of typical business use, but
residential use, but I've been using in my business and have never been
disappointed Smile

I will agree that's is fairly expensive, but I WOULD recommend it to
people who are on the go often. After setup, it really is plug-n-play IMO.

Moj

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:11 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] IAXy device Reply with quote

I guess I've never run asterisk without ANY echo cans Smile It's just that
the echo was minor enough that MG2 et. al did a fine job.

Thanks!

Moj

Eric Wieling wrote:
Quote:
You will never get latency on a network low enough for echo to be
perceived as sidetone (like on analog). If you want to get rid of echo
you must cancel echo.

Mojo with Horan & Company, LLC wrote:

Quote:
Sean Dennis wrote:

Quote:
bilal ghayyad wrote:


Quote:
Hi All;

I have been chocked just when I saw some posts talking
about how much the IAXy is bad Smile -

So I would like to ask, did any one try it later and
wether it is good or not? I am asking this because I
need to use it as it is NAT Transparent (as I read
also, and I did not try it to see how much it is
transparent).

What about codec? Why it is only support g711 and does
not support compressed codec? And what about the IP
address and the DNS usage and the DDNS usage?

What main porblems contain and any advise?

Regards
Bilal


____________________________________________________________________________________



The device has no echo cancellation and sounds horrible (lots of echo)
on about half of the analog phones I tried it on. I wouldn't recommend
it unless you absolutely need IAX. It's also very expensive for a 1 port
ATA.


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Echo may be the result of latency on the network. I've not had any echo
problems that I remember with my IAXy and I make ten calls a day, five
days a week, for the last few years, to all sorts of numbers/areas. I
know that this isn't representative of typical business use, but
residential use, but I've been using in my business and have never been
disappointed Smile

I will agree that's is fairly expensive, but I WOULD recommend it to
people who are on the go often. After setup, it really is plug-n-play IMO.

Moj

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:08 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] IAXy device Reply with quote

I had a customer using an IAXY (old gen) for an FXO fax machine and it
worked almost all the time so it cannot be that bad.

Maybe because the fax was very old and did not have high transmit rates.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Mojo with Horan & Company, LLC
<mojo at horanappraisals.com> wrote:
Quote:
I guess I've never run asterisk without ANY echo cans Smile It's just that
the echo was minor enough that MG2 et. al did a fine job.

Thanks!

Moj



Eric Wieling wrote:
Quote:
You will never get latency on a network low enough for echo to be
perceived as sidetone (like on analog). If you want to get rid of echo
you must cancel echo.

Mojo with Horan & Company, LLC wrote:

Quote:
Sean Dennis wrote:

Quote:
bilal ghayyad wrote:


Quote:
Hi All;

I have been chocked just when I saw some posts talking
about how much the IAXy is bad Smile -

So I would like to ask, did any one try it later and
wether it is good or not? I am asking this because I
need to use it as it is NAT Transparent (as I read
also, and I did not try it to see how much it is
transparent).

What about codec? Why it is only support g711 and does
not support compressed codec? And what about the IP
address and the DNS usage and the DDNS usage?

What main porblems contain and any advise?

Regards
Bilal


____________________________________________________________________________________



The device has no echo cancellation and sounds horrible (lots of echo)
on about half of the analog phones I tried it on. I wouldn't recommend
it unless you absolutely need IAX. It's also very expensive for a 1 port
ATA.


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Echo may be the result of latency on the network. I've not had any echo
problems that I remember with my IAXy and I make ten calls a day, five
days a week, for the last few years, to all sorts of numbers/areas. I
know that this isn't representative of typical business use, but
residential use, but I've been using in my business and have never been
disappointed Smile

I will agree that's is fairly expensive, but I WOULD recommend it to
people who are on the go often. After setup, it really is plug-n-play IMO.

Moj

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:45 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] IAXy device Reply with quote

It's not bad in the sense of stability (well the original ones are
claimed to have overheating issues..).

But its that it lacks ANY features. The IAXy has no features at all.
Also no security, it MUST be placed behind a firewall, as the
configuration doesn't have any sort of security whatsoever. Did I
mention it has no features besides DHCP? Not even DNS.

Also it's very expensive. I could understand if it was a full-featured
device with a webinterface, DNS support & 2 Ethernet & phone ports I
wouldn't complain of the price. But it was released at approx USD $100
at a time when most full-featured adapters sold for a little less, and
still sells for $90 today. If they sold them for $40 I wouldn't bash
them either.. because honestly thats what they really should be worth.
I'd rather use a Grandstream HT than an IAXY honestly.

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:
Quote:
I had a customer using an IAXY (old gen) for an FXO fax machine and it
worked almost all the time so it cannot be that bad.

Maybe because the fax was very old and did not have high transmit rates.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro



On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Mojo with Horan & Company, LLC
<mojo at horanappraisals.com> wrote:
Quote:
I guess I've never run asterisk without ANY echo cans Smile It's just that
the echo was minor enough that MG2 et. al did a fine job.

Thanks!

Moj



Eric Wieling wrote:
Quote:
You will never get latency on a network low enough for echo to be
perceived as sidetone (like on analog). If you want to get rid of echo
you must cancel echo.

Mojo with Horan & Company, LLC wrote:

Quote:
Sean Dennis wrote:

Quote:
bilal ghayyad wrote:


Quote:
Hi All;

I have been chocked just when I saw some posts talking
about how much the IAXy is bad Smile -

So I would like to ask, did any one try it later and
wether it is good or not? I am asking this because I
need to use it as it is NAT Transparent (as I read
also, and I did not try it to see how much it is
transparent).

What about codec? Why it is only support g711 and does
not support compressed codec? And what about the IP
address and the DNS usage and the DDNS usage?

What main porblems contain and any advise?

Regards
Bilal


____________________________________________________________________________________



The device has no echo cancellation and sounds horrible (lots of echo)
on about half of the analog phones I tried it on. I wouldn't recommend
it unless you absolutely need IAX. It's also very expensive for a 1 port
ATA.


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Echo may be the result of latency on the network. I've not had any echo
problems that I remember with my IAXy and I make ten calls a day, five
days a week, for the last few years, to all sorts of numbers/areas. I
know that this isn't representative of typical business use, but
residential use, but I've been using in my business and have never been
disappointed Smile

I will agree that's is fairly expensive, but I WOULD recommend it to
people who are on the go often. After setup, it really is plug-n-play IMO.

Moj

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:03 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] IAXy device Reply with quote

I have to chime in here to say that we have had an IAXy for four years
and it has given flawless service. Yes, it has no features like DNS
but we haven't required this. It's small and easily hidden in a home
or soho scenario and I've also used on the same network as the
asterisk box or on a network not too far away (like less that 50ms
lag). It works fine and has kept on working. All the rest of the
complaints are certainly true, but it works and it isn't some kind of
useless thing if that's the case.

/r

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Andreas van dem Helge
<joakimsen at gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
It's not bad in the sense of stability (well the original ones are
claimed to have overheating issues..).

But its that it lacks ANY features. The IAXy has no features at all.
Also no security, it MUST be placed behind a firewall, as the
configuration doesn't have any sort of security whatsoever. Did I
mention it has no features besides DHCP? Not even DNS.

Also it's very expensive. I could understand if it was a full-featured
device with a webinterface, DNS support & 2 Ethernet & phone ports I
wouldn't complain of the price. But it was released at approx USD $100
at a time when most full-featured adapters sold for a little less, and
still sells for $90 today. If they sold them for $40 I wouldn't bash
them either.. because honestly thats what they really should be worth.
I'd rather use a Grandstream HT than an IAXY honestly.



On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:
Quote:
I had a customer using an IAXY (old gen) for an FXO fax machine and it
worked almost all the time so it cannot be that bad.

Maybe because the fax was very old and did not have high transmit rates.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro



On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Mojo with Horan & Company, LLC
<mojo at horanappraisals.com> wrote:
Quote:
I guess I've never run asterisk without ANY echo cans Smile It's just that
the echo was minor enough that MG2 et. al did a fine job.

Thanks!

Moj



Eric Wieling wrote:
Quote:
You will never get latency on a network low enough for echo to be
perceived as sidetone (like on analog). If you want to get rid of echo
you must cancel echo.

Mojo with Horan & Company, LLC wrote:

Quote:
Sean Dennis wrote:

Quote:
bilal ghayyad wrote:


Quote:
Hi All;

I have been chocked just when I saw some posts talking
about how much the IAXy is bad Smile -

So I would like to ask, did any one try it later and
wether it is good or not? I am asking this because I
need to use it as it is NAT Transparent (as I read
also, and I did not try it to see how much it is
transparent).

What about codec? Why it is only support g711 and does
not support compressed codec? And what about the IP
address and the DNS usage and the DDNS usage?

What main porblems contain and any advise?

Regards
Bilal


____________________________________________________________________________________



The device has no echo cancellation and sounds horrible (lots of echo)
on about half of the analog phones I tried it on. I wouldn't recommend
it unless you absolutely need IAX. It's also very expensive for a 1 port
ATA.


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Echo may be the result of latency on the network. I've not had any echo
problems that I remember with my IAXy and I make ten calls a day, five
days a week, for the last few years, to all sorts of numbers/areas. I
know that this isn't representative of typical business use, but
residential use, but I've been using in my business and have never been
disappointed Smile

I will agree that's is fairly expensive, but I WOULD recommend it to
people who are on the go often. After setup, it really is plug-n-play IMO.

Moj

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:32 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] IAXy device Reply with quote

Mojo with Horan & Company, LLC wrote:
Quote:
Sean Dennis wrote:
Quote:
bilal ghayyad wrote:

Quote:
Hi All;

I have been chocked just when I saw some posts talking
about how much the IAXy is bad Smile -

So I would like to ask, did any one try it later and
wether it is good or not? I am asking this because I
need to use it as it is NAT Transparent (as I read
also, and I did not try it to see how much it is
transparent).

What about codec? Why it is only support g711 and does
not support compressed codec? And what about the IP
address and the DNS usage and the DDNS usage?

What main porblems contain and any advise?

Regards
Bilal


____________________________________________________________________________________


The device has no echo cancellation and sounds horrible (lots of echo)
on about half of the analog phones I tried it on. I wouldn't recommend
it unless you absolutely need IAX. It's also very expensive for a 1 port
ATA.


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Echo may be the result of latency on the network. I've not had any echo
problems that I remember with my IAXy and I make ten calls a day, five
days a week, for the last few years, to all sorts of numbers/areas. I
know that this isn't representative of typical business use, but
residential use, but I've been using in my business and have never been
disappointed Smile

I will agree that's is fairly expensive, but I WOULD recommend it to
people who are on the go often. After setup, it really is plug-n-play IMO.

Just to put out some official word on the matter, the IAXy does indeed
have some echo cancellation built in. It has to since it interacts with
a phone via a 2 wire to 4 wire conversion with a hybrid.

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