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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:40 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Need some input for Quad T1 and channel ban

Al lists wrote:

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I'm looking to install a system with 80 FXS analog phones.

Each channel bank can handle 48 analog channels, 2 PRIs per box.

Quote:

as far as i know, addit 600 T1 interface is not PRI (please correct me
if i'm wrong) its CAS robbed bit, will that work with new Digium quad
T1 like TE410P ?( I prefer to use Digium if possible)

This is incorrect. I've got ours setup at a PRI. esf, b8zs.

Quote:

The system is connected to the Telco through SIP trunk so all we have
in terms of analog is local loop, Do we need to have echo cancel in
this scenario ?

I'd say anything with analog will need EC. If you can afford it on a
quad card, I would.

Doug

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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Need some input for Quad T1 and channel ban

Doug Lytle wrote on Monday, March 31, 2008 5:40 PM

Quote:

Al lists wrote:

Quote:

I'm looking to install a system with 80 FXS analog phones.

Each channel bank can handle 48 analog channels, 2 PRIs per box.

Quote:

as far as i know, addit 600 T1 interface is not PRI (please
correct me
if i'm wrong) its CAS robbed bit, will that work with new
Digium quad
T1 like TE410P ?( I prefer to use Digium if possible)

This is incorrect. I've got ours setup at a PRI. esf, b8zs.

This does not sound right. If it is 2 PRIs then it should be 46 channels
(or 47 channels if sharing a D channel). A quick google search indicates
that these channel banks can deal with PRI in a drop and insert mode
only, not for termination. (I use Adtran channel banks which are not PRI
so I may be confused here).

Don Pobanz

stotaro at totarotechn...
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:44 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Need some input for Quad T1 and channel ban

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Al lists <asteriskal at gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

I'm looking to install a system with 80 FXS analog phones.
At this time the only cost effective solution is using a 4 port T1 card and
addit 600 channel bank.
Has anyone tried this solution? any good documents beside
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+hardware+channel+bank+check
as far as i know, addit 600 T1 interface is not PRI (please correct me if
i'm wrong) its CAS robbed bit, will that work with new Digium quad T1 like
TE410P ?( I prefer to use Digium if possible)
The system is connected to the Telco through SIP trunk so all we have in
terms of analog is local loop, Do we need to have echo cancel in this
scenario ?
Thanks!

I am not sure of your budget but I would go with a SIP to FXS gateway
such as the Quintum Tenor AX. If you consider the amount you would be
paying for the T1 card and the Adits, it may not be that big of a
difference and certainly more simple.

Disclaimer, I have not done a price comparison or done the channel
bank solution on that scale (only 24 ports for me) but the SIP-FXS is
so much better in my opinion.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:24 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Need some input for Quad T1 and channel ban

Don Pobanz wrote:

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Doug Lytle wrote on Monday, March 31, 2008 5:40 PM

This does not sound right. If it is 2 PRIs then it should be 46 channels

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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:03 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Need some input for Quad T1 and channel ban

Im guessing T1cas not PRI,just because its giving 24 fxs per T1.
Steve, what are my options for SIP to fxs?
thank you!

On 3/31/08, Doug Lytle <support at drdos.info> wrote:

Quote:

Don Pobanz wrote:

Quote:

Doug Lytle wrote on Monday, March 31, 2008 5:40 PM

This does not sound right. If it is 2 PRIs then it should be 46 channels

I may have the terminology incorrect. I don't have a D channel, so I
guess this would be called a T1 then?

Doug

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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:17 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Need some input for Quad T1 and channel ban

Here I will say it.... http://xorcom.com

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Al lists <asteriskal at gmail.com> wrote:

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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Need some input for Quad T1 and channel ban

Its Nice, i agree, but we are looking at $4k to $5k with this.
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Andrew Latham <lathama at lathama.com> wrote:

Quote:

Here I will say it.... http://xorcom.com

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Al lists <asteriskal at gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

I'm looking to install a system with 80 FXS analog phones.
At this time the only cost effective solution is using a 4 port T1 card

and

Quote:

addit 600 channel bank.
Has anyone tried this solution? any good documents beside

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+hardware+channel+bank+check

Quote:

as far as i know, addit 600 T1 interface is not PRI (please correct me

Quote:

i'm wrong) its CAS robbed bit, will that work with new Digium quad T1

Quote:

TE410P ?( I prefer to use Digium if possible)
The system is connected to the Telco through SIP trunk so all we have in
terms of analog is local loop, Do we need to have echo cancel in this
scenario ?
Thanks!

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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:28 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Need some input for Quad T1 and channel ban

Yes, the Digium cards should support T1 CAS.

Andrew Latham wrote:

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Here I will say it.... http://xorcom.com

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Al lists <asteriskal at gmail.com> wrote:

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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:48 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Need some input for Quad T1 and channel ban

Andrew Latham wrote:

Quote:

Here I will say it.... http://xorcom.com

alternatively:
http://www.audiocodes.com/objects/30010_DS_MP-11X,%20MP-124D.pdf

Quote:

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Al lists <asteriskal at gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

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asteriskal at gmail.com
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:22 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Need some input for Quad T1 and channel ban

Bad memories from AudioCodec Smile

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Edwin Lam <edwin.lam at officegeneral.com>
wrote:

Quote:

Andrew Latham wrote:

Quote:

Here I will say it.... http://xorcom.com

alternatively:
http://www.audiocodes.com/objects/30010_DS_MP-11X,%20MP-124D.pdf

Quote:

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Al lists <asteriskal at gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

I'm looking to install a system with 80 FXS analog phones.
At this time the only cost effective solution is using a 4 port T1 card

and

Quote:

addit 600 channel bank.
Has anyone tried this solution? any good documents beside

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+hardware+channel+bank+check

Quote:

as far as i know, addit 600 T1 interface is not PRI (please correct me

Quote:

i'm wrong) its CAS robbed bit, will that work with new Digium quad T1

Quote:

TE410P ?( I prefer to use Digium if possible)
The system is connected to the Telco through SIP trunk so all we have

Quote:

terms of analog is local loop, Do we need to have echo cancel in this
scenario ?

--
Edwin Lam <edwin.lam at officegeneral.com>
Systems Engineer, Office General, Inc.
Ph: +1 415 439 4988 Fax: +1 415 283 3370
http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD6506D20

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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:26 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Need some input for Quad T1 and channel ban

Al lists wrote:

Quote:

Bad memories from AudioCodec Smile

Por que? I'm curious.
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jjones at danrj.com
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:15 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Need some input for Quad T1 and channel ban

On Apr 2, 2008, at 9:22 PM, Al lists wrote:

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Bad memories from AudioCodec Smile

Second this.

My favorite is Vega, but they have terrible support in US.

Have many Adit600 connected via Digium T1 - work great. Even FAX if
PSTN PRI connected to same card.

And no the Adit600 is not a switch, hence it does not support PRI
signalling, it will pass it through and perform DACS functions very
well. You can also buy their CMG card and turn into a gateway, but it
will be MGCP not SIP. If using as a channel bank I strongly recommend
their newer FXS-C cards, they support line testing and are the only
diagnostics available for the FXS ports.

Also I hear Carrier Access is now Turin Networks.

stotaro at totarotechn...
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:01 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Need some input for Quad T1 and channel ban

Just Google Quintum Tenor AX. Well worth the money.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Al lists <asteriskal at gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

Im guessing T1cas not PRI,just because its giving 24 fxs per T1.
Steve, what are my options for SIP to fxs?
thank you!

On 3/31/08, Doug Lytle <support at drdos.info> wrote:

Quote:

Don Pobanz wrote:

Quote:

Doug Lytle wrote on Monday, March 31, 2008 5:40 PM

This does not sound right. If it is 2 PRIs then it should be 46 channels

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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:18 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Need some input for Quad T1 and channel ban

I've used Adit600's almost exclusively for my installs. All have worked great for me.

-D

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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Need some input for Quad T1 and channel banks.

Just Google Quintum Tenor AX. Well worth the money.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Al lists <asteriskal at gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

Im guessing T1cas not PRI,just because its giving 24 fxs per T1.
Steve, what are my options for SIP to fxs?
thank you!

On 3/31/08, Doug Lytle <support at drdos.info> wrote:

Quote:

Don Pobanz wrote:

Quote:

Doug Lytle wrote on Monday, March 31, 2008 5:40 PM

This does not sound right. If it is 2 PRIs then it should be 46 channels

I may have the terminology incorrect. I don't have a D channel, so I
guess this would be called a T1 then?

Doug

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"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary
Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:46 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Need some input for Quad T1 and channel ban

I am sure they have until you for whatever business reason, you needed
to move 24 or 48 phones to a distant campus.

There is very little flexibility with T1 Adit solution. Yes it works
well, no it is not flexible, no you you will never even close to what
the Quintum Tenor AX offers as far as features.

I think using SIP (or whatever protocol) over a voice T1 is kind of
the whole point of this "VoIP Revolution".

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Darren Wright <dwright at d2-tech.com> wrote:

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Im guessing T1cas not PRI,just because its giving 24 fxs per T1.
Steve, what are my options for SIP to fxs?
thank you!

On 3/31/08, Doug Lytle <support at drdos.info> wrote:

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Don Pobanz wrote:

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Doug Lytle wrote on Monday, March 31, 2008 5:40 PM

This does not sound right. If it is 2 PRIs then it should be 46 channels

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