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[jra at baylink.com]

On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 01:57:59PM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:

[m345 at netvision.net.il]

If you go to the Astricon web site and look at the links, you will see that the show is produced by Pulvermedia.

Digium bought Sokol who previously produced Astricon, but Digium is not a show producer so they made some kind of deal with Pulvermedia to produce the show. Producing a show is not simple and is rather expensive. You would probably be surprised to know how much a show like this costs to produce.
The costs from first hand knowledge are more than the $150k that someone calculated above as potential income.
Not only that many of the participants get free passes, for numerous reasons.

A big chunk of income are the sponsorships, which is one of the reasons to bring in a professional producer, they bring in the
big sponsors.

In any case I would assume that if Pulvermedia does go under (which I hope not) Digium will find another company to partner with,
though that may not save this years show.

Just my 2 cents...
Moshe



Steve Totaro wrote:

[stotaro at totarotechn...]

Hmm, I guess maybe I was wrong.

Anyways, Sokol should just buy it back for next to nothing and take
the money and run. They obviously had the wearwithall to do it well.

I am sure a grassroots "Astricon" (if Digium doesn't claim
infringment) would work too.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Moshe Maeir <m345@netvision.net.il> wrote:

[jra at baylink.com]

On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 11:02:48PM +0300, Moshe Maeir wrote:

[stotaro at totarotechn...]

I am actually for a grassroots "Astricon" (non-profit). I think it
could be pulled off very well and prove something very powerful to the
community and the industry.

If we could all get comp suites at AC or Vegas then we can pool that
saved money for conference room space and brown bag lunches.

The above was sort of a joke but the idea is not. We all have a few
degrees of separation from someone that could help for free or cost if
you call in a favor.

I actually have access to a large facility for presentations that I am
sure I could use for free.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Steve Totaro
<stotaro@totarotechnologies.com> wrote:

[damin at nacs.net]

As someone who has been involved w/ producing a show w/ attendance in the
1,500 attendee range for the past 5 years, I can tell you that even doing
things on a budget costs about $65,000 / day. This is with making people pay
for their own lunch. Did you know that a pot of coffee costs about $300? And
Internet access in a Union run trade-show facility can be about $12,000 a
day. When you sign an agreement w/ a trade-show venue, you are also signing
an agreement that states you will use their specific approved vendors, all
of which have mind blowingly high prices. You sacrifice cost effectiveness
for efficiency.

65k is what the Ohio Linuxfest costs to put on. Almost 50% of the money
comes from the community in the form of $65 donations for an "All Conference
Pass". The rest of it is provided by sponsors who want to reach the
community.

I'd be very shocked if Astricon gets shelved because of the issues w/ Pulver
however. Astricon is still "the Asterisk show" for all intents and purposes,
and I personally believe it is far too important to just get canned.



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[stotaro at totarotechn...]

Ad I said

On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Gregory Boehnlein <damin@nacs.net> wrote:

[jra at baylink.com]

On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 07:01:14PM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:

[damin at nacs.net]

[damin at nacs.net]

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On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 19:01 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:

[stotaro at totarotechn...]

All,

I am currently asking as to whether he would be willing to allow or
even go so far as participate. He also owns a restaurant that does
catering, that could come in handy.

The location is just nort of Harrisburg PA.

No more rural than the last Astricon, you can actually get to a large
variety of things like restaurants and malls by walking and not see
any wild pigs or wolves like AZ.

Yes, it is classified as a "Farm", but it is owned by one of the
co-authors of SNMP and a co-founder of PSINet, so you know it is not
just a "Farm"

The guy is one of us, not some "Wedding Planner" but he has staff that
deals with things like this.

My stuff is collocated there.

I fired off an email asking. If he says yes or no, it doesn't really
much matter at this point. We have to see what is going down with
Pulver Media and Asricon as is. The good new is that my friend know
Jeff personally and to not have "any" kind of Astricon would not be
acceptable.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On 4/6/08, Gregory Boehnlein <damin@nacs.net> wrote:

[stotaro at totarotechn...]

On 4/6/08, Gregory Boehnlein <damin@nacs.net> wrote:

[spamsucks2005 at gmail...]

Regarding Pulver Media, I just spoke to someone close to Jeff Pulver
who tells me a statement is expected soon. I know that VON was called
Video on the Net the last time I saw it in print and wasn't about VoIP
specifically.

I went to two Astricons (in Europe) and I don't recall seeing Pulver
media at either one. Jeff Pulver's latest project is
primetimererun.com which allows you to watch popular tv shows on a
browser. Works great, too by the way. Nothing to do with Astricon or
Pulver Media though.

Within this community I think the service we can be happy for is FWD
because so many people have tested asterisk using it and some even
came to installing asterisk by starting with FWD and getting hooked.
That's what happend to me.

/r

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