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matt at mbrown.co.uk
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:30 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] UK POTS - Is there a better card than TDM40

Hi, I am feeling very frustrated with the Digium TDM400P, I have 3 x FXS 1x FXO modules and I have tried various things and different versions of Asterisk and Zaptel to no avail. Clearly there are issues with this card, so I am wondering - is there a card out there that does the following without the inherent problems of the TDM400 ? I.e a card that can reliably do: UK CID Distinctive Ring Detection. Any pointers would be great. Thanks. ( or is there an Asterisk version and Zaptel version in the 1.4 branch that fixes these issues ? ) Matt Brown

jamesw at nameonthe.net
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:11 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] UK POTS - Is there a better card than TDM40

Snap,

Well, after trying to buying a TDM400P and then getting persuaded to buy
a TDM410P
because they no longer sell the 400 model I'd say I'm not impressed. It
took three 2.6
kernel builds (zaptel 1.4 won't even build with the latest kernel
release) before I finally got the
kernel to build and recognise the device. Can't get callerid to work,
have followed the instructions
to the letter, does it really have to be this hard? Must say I'm tempted
to just send the card
back and forget about it and just use Cisco CallManager. Digium's
support to be fair have been
responsive but unable to help.

James

Quote:

Hi,

I am feeling very frustrated with the Digium TDM400P, I have 3 x FXS
1x FXO modules and I have tried various things and different versions
of Asterisk and Zaptel to no avail.

Clearly there are issues with this card, so I am wondering - is there
a card out there that does the following without the inherent problems
of the TDM400 ?

I.e a card that can reliably do:

UK CID
Distinctive Ring Detection.

Any pointers would be great.

Thanks.

( or is there an Asterisk version and Zaptel version in the 1.4 branch
that fixes these issues ? )

Matt Brown

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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:33 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] UK POTS - Is there a better card than TDM40

On Mon, 7 Apr 2008, James Williamson wrote:

Quote:

I've looked at the OpenVox cards and will probably buy one of them next
time I need an analogue card - eg.

http://www.voipon.co.uk/openvox-analog-cards-openvox-a400p-c-23_160_161_164.html

And I've stuck with 1.2 for the time being... There is a patch mentioned
here recently to make UK callerId work, and also OSLEC is essential (and
bloody good!)

Quote:

UK CID
Distinctive Ring Detection.

No experience of this though..

Quote:

( or is there an Asterisk version and Zaptel version in the 1.4 branch
that fixes these issues ? )

Go back to 1.2. Right now my own feeling is that 1.4 creates more problems
than it solves - certinly for my application of asterisk (which is mostly
the SME PBX market and a couple of virtual PBX boxes with SIP and IAX
trunks).

Gordon

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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:47 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] UK POTS - Is there a better card than TDM40

On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 06:11:02AM +0100, James Williamson wrote:

Quote:

What version have you tried? Of Zaptel and of the kernel? AFAIK 1.4.9.2
builds with latest kernel (or maybe there's actually a small warning with
our drivers, fixed in SVN)

Please provide an error log.

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jamesw at nameonthe.net
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:37 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] UK POTS - Is there a better card than TDM40

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

Quote:

On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 06:11:02AM +0100, James Williamson wrote:

Quote:

Yes, zaptel 1.4.9.2 does compile against a 2.6.24.4 source tree,
although the
latest release on the website (something like a week ago) was 1.4.8
which doesn't:

[root at dev3 zaptel-1.4.8]# make
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/zaptel-1.4.8'
make -C /lib/modules/2.6.24/build SUBDIRS=/usr/local/src/zaptel-1.4.8
HOTPLUG_FIRMWARE=yes modules
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.24'

WARNING: Symbol version dump /usr/src/linux-2.6.24/Module.symvers
is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions.

scripts/Makefile.build:46: *** CFLAGS was changed in
"/usr/local/src/zaptel-1.4.8/Makefile". Fix it to use EXTRA_CFLAGS. Stop.
make[2]: *** [_module_/usr/local/src/zaptel-1.4.8] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.24'
make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/zaptel-1.4.8'
make: *** [all] Error 2

James

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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:36 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] UK POTS - Is there a better card than TDM40

On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 10:37:42AM +0100, James Williamson wrote:

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Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

Quote:

On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 06:11:02AM +0100, James Williamson wrote:

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Yeah, fixed long ago in 1.4.9 (even though there's a very simple
workaround for it)

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stotaro at totarotechn...
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:58 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] UK POTS - Is there a better card than TDM40

On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Tzafrir Cohen <tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com> wrote:

Quote:

On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 10:37:42AM +0100, James Williamson wrote:

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Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

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On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 06:11:02AM +0100, James Williamson wrote:

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Another vote for 1.2.X. Openvox is the same as Digium TDM400P, it is
the reference design and the cards are made very well. I suggest
trying a Sangoma card.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

mattl at xgforce.com
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:08 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] UK POTS - Is there a better card than TDM40

try sangoma.com card, easy to use, hardware echo cancel, and carrier
quality.

matt

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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:42 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] UK POTS - Is there a better card than TDM40

Steve Totaro wrote:

Quote:

On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Tzafrir Cohen <tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com> wrote:

Quote:

On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 10:37:42AM +0100, James Williamson wrote:

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Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

Quote:

On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 06:11:02AM +0100, James Williamson wrote:

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Another vote for 1.2.X. Openvox is the same as Digium TDM400P, it is
the reference design and the cards are made very well. I suggest
trying a Sangoma card.

I've installed the 1.2.x zaptel drivers, this still doesn't work. Is
there anyone
in the UK who's successfully got a TDM410P to support caller id or am I just
wasting my time?

James

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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:56 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] UK POTS - Is there a better card than TDM40

On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 09:42:48AM +0100, James Williamson wrote:

Quote:

I've installed the 1.2.x zaptel drivers, this still doesn't work. Is
there anyone
in the UK who's successfully got a TDM410P to support caller id or am I just
wasting my time?

Before going further in "wasting time", what do you have in zapata.conf ?

(And for the record: I don't think 1.2 should be any better than 1.4 in
picking up caller ID)

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matt at mbrown.co.uk
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:44 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] UK POTS - Is there a better card than TDM40

Hi James,

Quote:

I've installed the 1.2.x zaptel drivers, this still doesn't work. Is
there anyone
in the UK who's successfully got a TDM410P to support caller id or
am I just
wasting my time?

I can (after many hours of testing) confirm that Zaptel 1.4.5.1 with
the following patch to wctd.c does appear to give the best results.

http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=9264

(However fails to patch against any newer version of Zaptel)

Distinctive ring is broken Sad

it reports 0,0,0 for both ring types.

So to conclude, Zaptel 1.4.5.1 + patch and Asterisk 1.4.19 - does
appear to work.

I am just confused why the patch above has failed to make it into the
main Zaptel branch as this would resolve the CID problem for a lot of
people.

Matt

gordon+asterisk at dro...
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:04 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] UK POTS - Is there a better card than TDM40

On Tue, 8 Apr 2008, James Williamson wrote:

Quote:

I've installed the 1.2.x zaptel drivers, this still doesn't work. Is
there anyone
in the UK who's successfully got a TDM410P to support caller id or am I just
wasting my time?

I have it working on TDM400Ps under 1.2.x

Applying the patch mentioned earlier was pretty crucial...

# lsmod
Module Size Used by
zttranscode 6408 0
wctdm 32544 1
zaptel 194360 6 zttranscode,wctdm
oslec 7640 1 zaptel

Extract from 'dmesg':

Open Source Line Echo Canceller Installed
Zapata Telephony Interface Registered on major 196
Zaptel Version: 1.2.23
Zaptap registered 'sample' char driver on major 33
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 12
PCI: setting IRQ 12 as level-triggered
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:14.0[A] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 12 (level, low) -> IRQ 12
Freshmaker version: 73
Freshmaker passed register test
Module 0: Installed -- AUTO FXS/DPO
Module 1: Not installed
Module 2: Not installed
Module 3: Installed -- AUTO FXO (UK mode)
Found a Wildcard TDM: Wildcard TDM400P REV I (2 modules)
Registered tone zone 4 (United Kingdom)

This is in /etc/moprobe.d/dsx:

options wctdm opermode=UK

and this is in /etc/modprobe.d/zaptel

# automatically generated file; do not edit
install wctdm /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install wctdm $CMDLINE_OPTS && /sbin/ztcfg
install ztdummy /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install ztdummy $CMDLINE_OPTS && /sbin/ztcfg
alias wcfxs wctdm
alias wct2xxp wct4xxp
# cat /etc/zaptel.conf
fxoks=1
fxsks=4
loadzone=uk
defaultzone=uk

dsx:/etc# cat /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf

; zapata.conf:

[trunkgroups]

[channels]

; Default settings applicable to all channels

usecallerid=yes
cidsignalling=v23
cidstart=polarity
hidecallerid=no
callwaiting=no
threewaycalling=yes
transfer=yes
echocancel=yes
;echotraining=yes
;echocancelwhenbridged=yes
immediate=no
faxdetect=no

; Channel 4: PSTN line
context=incoming
group=1
usecallerid=yes
faxdetect=none
signalling=fxs_ks
rxgain=8
txgain=8
callerid=asreceived
channel => 4

And a call:

# rasterisk
Asterisk 1.2.26.1, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2007 Digium, Inc. and others.
Created by Mark Spencer <markster at digium.com>
Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'show warranty' for details.
This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU General Public
License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to redistribute it under
certain conditions. Type 'show license' for details.
=========================================================================
Connected to Asterisk 1.2.26.1 currently running on dsx (pid = 18853)
dsx*CLI> set verbose 9
Verbosity was 0 and is now 9

== Starting post polarity CID detection on channel 4
-- Starting simple switch on 'Zap/4-1'
-- Executing NoOp("Zap/4-1", "INCOMING CALL - From: "" <07712191046>") in new stack

Gordon

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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:10 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] UK POTS - Is there a better card than TDM40

On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 10:44:39AM +0100, Matt Brown wrote:

Quote:

Hi James,

Quote:

I've installed the 1.2.x zaptel drivers, this still doesn't work. Is
there anyone
in the UK who's successfully got a TDM410P to support caller id or
am I just
wasting my time?

As I can see from that report, a modified version of that patch was
applied to 1.4:

http://bugs.digium.com/9264#80824

It was reverted right before the release of 1.4.8, as it required more
testing, and re-applied immediately after it. Hence 1.4.9[.2] includes it.

Quote:

Distinctive ring is broken Sad

it reports 0,0,0 for both ring types.

Is it reported anywhere?

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matt at mbrown.co.uk
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:02 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] UK POTS - Is there a better card than TDM40

Hi Tzafrir,

Quote:

I did download and compile 1.4.9.2 - however CID still gets missed and
I get the dreaded...

[Apr 5 16:21:13] NOTICE[12685]: chan_zap.c:6191 ss_thread: Got event
2 (Ring/Answered)...
[Apr 5 16:21:15] WARNING[12685]: chan_zap.c:6254 ss_thread: CID timed
out waiting for ring. Exiting simple switch

Some calls seem to capture the CID, but a majority get missed.

So hence I reverted back to 1.4.5.1 + patch, which appears to work
fine (no missed CID so far)

Quote:

Distinctive ring is broken Sad

it reports 0,0,0 for both ring types.

Is it reported anywhere?

I am digging for that now, there does appear to be quite a few bugs
about distinctive ring. I was hoping by moving to Zaptel 1.4.9.2 - to
resolve both issues or at least try to work out the problem from here
and eliminate trying to fix something in an earlier release, in
addition I also downloaded the latest svn but to no avail .

1.4.9.2 also introduced a BATTERTY / NO BATTERY issue for me which
caused the calls to hang up on polarity reversal which is needed for
the CID part i.e cidstart = polarity. I did play with the battthreash
and debounce settings - but looking at other posts this was bad to
change the values as it then caused other issues.

I have been working on this now for a while and tried all sorts of
suggestions, posts, patches - to little avail. I am not a defeatist
and would like to help the project resolve these issues as this does
seem to me to be a problem for many UK people with TDM4XX cards.

I will keep going until I find a solution using the latest codebase.

Matt

matt at mbrown.co.uk
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:51 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] UK POTS - Is there a better card than TDM40

Hi Tzafrir,

Quote:

I should have read the bug report

http://bugs.digium.com/9264#8082

more carefully.

I have now added the line:

fwringdetect=1

to the /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf so the patched part of the code is
then utilized. This is appears to be working and hopefully will make
it into 1.4.10.

Now to investigate the distinctive ring part Smile

Matt

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