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nhadie.ramos at yahoo.com
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:59 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] prepaid on the trunks

if i have this setup: [sip users] -- [asterisk] --- [as5300] --- [pstn] asterisk will talk to as5300 using sip. i will use as5300 as a trunk on the asterisk so sip users can call out to pstn. what i would like to is do prepaid on those trunks, not on the sip users. sip users can call any other sip users . i want to do it that way coz i'm trying to build a multi-tenant pbx, and i will use the trunk as a unique identifier for each customer not their local extension. e.g. customer A will have trunk 34587612 and will have extension 101 and 102, customer B will have a different trunk 87659043 but will also have the extension 101 and 102. i want to create a billing system to monitor only the trunks and also to load amounts on those trunks. is this possible? will i be able to use app_prepaid for this? thank you. regards, nhadie --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20080422/e75810aa/attachment.htm

nhadie.ramos at yahoo.com
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:38 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] prepaid on the trunks

Hi, sorry to confused you with my question.

the normal prepaid application like astcc, if i'm not mistaken, monitors the amount left on the user (which i usually refer as extension), what i want to do is monitor prepaid on the trunk (or the SIP channel use to call outbound to pstn). Is that possible?

Regards,
Nhadie

On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 22:59 -0700, Nhadie Ramos wrote:

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i want to create a billing system to monitor only the trunks and also
to load amounts on those trunks. is this possible? will i be able to
use app_prepaid for this?

TBH, I don't really understand your description, but I will say that I
implemented astcc a week or two ago and it works for what I need.

Cheers,
b.

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brian at interlinx.bc.ca
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:33 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] prepaid on the trunks

On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 09:38 -0700, Nhadie Ramos wrote:

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Wouldn't you just "equate" a "Calling Card" (that's the unit that has an
account balance and charges against it) with a trunk instead of a user
or extension? You can call the astcc agi script with any value you want
for a "Calling Card" identifier.

b.
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darren at aleph-com.net
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:51 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] prepaid on the trunks

Am I correct in thinking that one application of this would be
monitoring what you have left for funds with a prepaid vendor?

Darren Wiebe
darren at aleph-com.net

Brian J. Murrell wrote:

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On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 09:38 -0700, Nhadie Ramos wrote:

Quote:

Wouldn't you just "equate" a "Calling Card" (that's the unit that has an
account balance and charges against it) with a trunk instead of a user
or extension? You can call the astcc agi script with any value you want
for a "Calling Card" identifier.

b.

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nhadie.ramos at yahoo.com
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] prepaid on the trunks

hi sir,

yes that would be it, but instead of having a prepaid provider, i will setup my own as5300 and asterisk will talk to that. is that possible in astcc, astbill or a2billing?

regards,
nhadie

Am I correct in thinking that one application of this would be
monitoring what you have left for funds with a prepaid vendor?

Darren Wiebe
darren at aleph-com.net

Brian J. Murrell wrote:

Quote:

On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 09:38 -0700, Nhadie Ramos wrote:

Quote:

Nhadie Ramos <nhadie.ramos at yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi, sorry to confused you with my question.

the normal prepaid application like astcc, if i'm not mistaken, monitors the amount left on the user (which i usually refer as extension), what i want to do is monitor prepaid on the trunk (or the SIP channel use to call outbound to pstn). Is that possible?

Regards,
Nhadie

On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 22:59 -0700, Nhadie Ramos wrote:

Quote:

i want to create a billing system to monitor only the trunks and also
to load amounts on those trunks. is this possible? will i be able to
use app_prepaid for this?

TBH, I don't really understand your description, but I will say that I
implemented astcc a week or two ago and it works for what I need.

Cheers,
b.

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darren at aleph-com.net
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] prepaid on the trunks

Ok, I'm not aware of this feature in astcc and I can't speak for astbill
or a2billing. I do know that I coded it into astpp and it's called
"vendor rating" in there. It works but it's not used a lot at present.

Darren Wiebe
darren at aleph-com.net

Nhadie Ramos wrote:

Quote:

hi sir,

yes that would be it, but instead of having a prepaid provider, i will
setup my own as5300 and asterisk will talk to that. is that possible
in astcc, astbill or a2billing?

regards,
nhadie
Am I correct in thinking that one application of this would be
monitoring what you have left for funds with a prepaid vendor?

Darren Wiebe
darren at aleph-com.net

Brian J. Murrell wrote:

Quote:

On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 09:38 -0700, Nhadie Ramos wrote:

Quote:

Hi, sorry to confused you with my question.

the normal prepaid application like astcc, if i'm not mistaken, monitors

the amount left on the user (which i usually refer as extension), what i want to do is monitor prepaid on the trunk (or the SIP channel use to call outbound to pstn). Is that possible?

Wouldn't you just "equate" a "Calling Card" (that's the unit that has an
account balance and charges against it) with a trunk instead of a user
or extension? You can call the astcc agi script with any value you want
for a "Calling Card" identifier.

b.

*/Nhadie Ramos <nhadie.ramos at yahoo.com>/* wrote:

Hi, sorry to confused you with my question.

the normal prepaid application like astcc, if i'm not mistaken, monitors the amount left on the user (which i usually refer as extension), what i want to do is monitor prepaid on the trunk (or the SIP channel use to call outbound to pstn). Is that possible?

Regards,
Nhadie

On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 22:59 -0700, Nhadie Ramos wrote:

Quote:

i want to create a billing system to monitor only the trunks and also
to load amounts on those trunks. is this possible? will i be able to
use app_prepaid for

this?

TBH, I don't really understand your description, but I will say that I
implemented astcc a week or two ago and it works for what I need.

Cheers,
b.

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stotaro at totarotechn...
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:07 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] prepaid on the trunks

You should also look at Darren's ASTPP, I am not sure if you missed
that earlier in the thread. It is basically ASTCC with major
improvements. It even has the ability to tie into OSCommerce which in
turn can connect to several credit card merchant accounts.

It is much more robust than ASTCC.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:17 AM, Nhadie Ramos <nhadie.ramos at yahoo.com> wrote:

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thank you sir, i will try to check on that. i haven't really tried astcc yet
so i really dont understand how it works right now.

also, do you have any reference on using app_prepaid? can't find some sample
config, i would like to see how i can use that. do you think app_prepaid is
suited for the scenario i have?

thank you

regards
nhadie

"Brian J. Murrell" <brian at interlinx.bc.ca> wrote:

On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 15:41 -0600, Darren Wiebe wrote:

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Ok, I'm not aware of this feature in astcc

Keep in mind that astcc is simply a tool that keeps a database of
minutes used for some "entity" (typically a calling card) and calculates
those minutes used against a pre-charged amount. The "number" of the
entity can be passed to astcc (i.e. so that it does not need to prompt
the user for it) in such a way:

exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,n,DeadAGI(astcc.agi,${cardnum},${EXTEN})

So binding a trunk to a "cardnum" (i.e. a given pre-charged account)
should be easy enough to do.

b.

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