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bilmar_gh at yahoo.com Guest
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:39 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Paging for analoge devices |
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Hi All;
Just would like to know if Boger, UPAM, and Onkyo can
be connected to the FXS ports and take extension from
asterisk?
And why Onkyo is needed if I need to use horn
speakers?
Regards
Bilal
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Quote: | Quote: | Steve Totaro wrote:
Quote: | On 4/5/08, bilal ghayyad
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Quote: | Quote: |
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | Anyone knows (tried) to use Page for
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| analoge
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | phone(zaptel channel - fxs)? If yes,
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| how?
Quote: | Quote: |
Quote: | Quote: |
Sorry I did not understand any thing from
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| your
reply.
Quote: | Quote: |
Quote: | Google is your friend. I discovered very
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| quickly what
they were
talking
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | about by googling.
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You may be able to find the device a little
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| cheaper, but
without
the brand
Quote: | Quote: | name, by searching for "UPAM". Typically, these
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| will have
the
"AT&T" or
Quote: | Quote: | "Lucent" names branded on them, despite being
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| identical and
Quote: | Quote: | manufactured by exactly the same entity.
--
Tilghman
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Yes, but Bogen sounds so much better than UPAM
(noted for future paging needs, I am doing a
| concrete factory
next
moth)
Quote: |
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
|
Just thinking about it, I could pick up a nice
refurbed Onkyo and some
horn speakers and create an industrial paging system
complete with a
couple of zones for much less than any other over
priced "paging
solution".
A and B speakers could be used for two zones and
balance could be used
for two other zones.
http://www.ecost.com/detail.aspx?edp=40236464&source=EWBBASE&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=40236464
Thanks,
Steve
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stotaro at totarotechn... Guest
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:06 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Paging for analoge devices |
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Bilal,
No, I do not think that you can make this work. You would obviously
need auto answer or how else would the audio come out of the speakers?
I thought you were talking about overhead paging.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:49 AM, bilal ghayyad <bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: | Dear Steve;
I was asking about the ability to do paging on the
normal analoge phones (which is connected to fxs
ports, and it already receive and originate calls on
the system). So does that work? If yes, do I need
auto-answer? If I need auto-answer here, then I will
face a problem in the calls which coming normally to
the analoge phone (when someone dial that extension).
Any advise?
Regards
Bilal
--- Steve Totaro <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com>
wrote:
Quote: | Bogen is the defacto standard in quality paging
equipment.
FXS port should work just fine with auto-answer
using any AMP.
The Onkyo suggestion was just an idea for a cheaper
but probably
higher quality audio with more volume in a loud
environment. I was
not saying you "needed" to use Onkyo, just that you
could build a
paging system with a regular tuner, possibly have
better sound, and do
it cheaper than going Bogen.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:39 AM, bilal ghayyad
<bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: | Hi All;
Just would like to know if Boger, UPAM, and Onkyo
| can
Quote: | be connected to the FXS ports and take extension
| from
Quote: | asterisk?
And why Onkyo is needed if I need to use horn
speakers?
Regards
Bilal
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Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | bilal ghayyad wrote:
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Quote: | Quote: | Steve Totaro wrote:
Quote: | On 4/5/08, bilal ghayyad
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| <bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: | Quote: |
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | Anyone knows (tried) to use Page for
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|
|
| analoge
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | phone(zaptel channel - fxs)? If
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| yes,
Quote: | how?
Quote: | Quote: |
Quote: | Quote: |
Sorry I did not understand any thing
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| from
Quote: | your
reply.
Quote: | Quote: |
Quote: | Google is your friend. I discovered very
|
|
| quickly what
they were
talking
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | about by googling.
|
You may be able to find the device a little
|
| cheaper, but
without
the brand
Quote: | Quote: | name, by searching for "UPAM". Typically,
|
|
| these
Quote: | will have
the
"AT&T" or
Quote: | Quote: | "Lucent" names branded on them, despite
|
|
| being
Quote: | identical and
Quote: | Quote: | manufactured by exactly the same entity.
--
Tilghman
|
Yes, but Bogen sounds so much better than UPAM
|
|
Quote: | Quote: |
(noted for future paging needs, I am doing a
| concrete factory
next
moth)
Quote: |
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
|
Just thinking about it, I could pick up a nice
refurbed Onkyo and some
horn speakers and create an industrial paging
| system
Quote: | complete with a
couple of zones for much less than any other over
priced "paging
solution".
A and B speakers could be used for two zones and
balance could be used
for two other zones.
|
| http://www.ecost.com/detail.aspx?edp=40236464&source=EWBBASE&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=40236464
____________________________________________________________________________________
Quote: | Quote: | Be a better friend, newshound, and
know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
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stotaro at totarotechn... Guest
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:08 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Paging for analoge devices |
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Bilal,
Sorry to reply to my reply but if you can register multiple accounts
and setup auto answer on one of those accounts, it could work. The
problem is, I am not sure if there are any ATAs that have this
ability.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:
Quote: | Bilal,
No, I do not think that you can make this work. You would obviously
need auto answer or how else would the audio come out of the speakers?
I thought you were talking about overhead paging.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:49 AM, bilal ghayyad <bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: | Dear Steve;
I was asking about the ability to do paging on the
normal analoge phones (which is connected to fxs
ports, and it already receive and originate calls on
the system). So does that work? If yes, do I need
auto-answer? If I need auto-answer here, then I will
face a problem in the calls which coming normally to
the analoge phone (when someone dial that extension).
Any advise?
Regards
Bilal
--- Steve Totaro <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com>
wrote:
Quote: | Bogen is the defacto standard in quality paging
equipment.
FXS port should work just fine with auto-answer
using any AMP.
The Onkyo suggestion was just an idea for a cheaper
but probably
higher quality audio with more volume in a loud
environment. I was
not saying you "needed" to use Onkyo, just that you
could build a
paging system with a regular tuner, possibly have
better sound, and do
it cheaper than going Bogen.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:39 AM, bilal ghayyad
<bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: | Hi All;
Just would like to know if Boger, UPAM, and Onkyo
| can
Quote: | be connected to the FXS ports and take extension
| from
Quote: | asterisk?
And why Onkyo is needed if I need to use horn
speakers?
Regards
Bilal
---------------
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | bilal ghayyad wrote:
|
Quote: | Quote: | Steve Totaro wrote:
Quote: | On 4/5/08, bilal ghayyad
|
|
|
|
| <bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: | Quote: |
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | Anyone knows (tried) to use Page for
|
|
|
|
|
| analoge
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | phone(zaptel channel - fxs)? If
|
|
|
|
|
|
| yes,
Quote: | how?
Quote: | Quote: |
Quote: | Quote: |
Sorry I did not understand any thing
|
|
|
|
| from
Quote: | your
reply.
Quote: | Quote: |
Quote: | Google is your friend. I discovered very
|
|
| quickly what
they were
talking
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | about by googling.
|
You may be able to find the device a little
|
| cheaper, but
without
the brand
Quote: | Quote: | name, by searching for "UPAM". Typically,
|
|
| these
Quote: | will have
the
"AT&T" or
Quote: | Quote: | "Lucent" names branded on them, despite
|
|
| being
Quote: | identical and
Quote: | Quote: | manufactured by exactly the same entity.
--
Tilghman
|
Yes, but Bogen sounds so much better than UPAM
|
|
Quote: | Quote: |
(noted for future paging needs, I am doing a
| concrete factory
next
moth)
Quote: |
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
|
Just thinking about it, I could pick up a nice
refurbed Onkyo and some
horn speakers and create an industrial paging
| system
Quote: | complete with a
couple of zones for much less than any other over
priced "paging
solution".
A and B speakers could be used for two zones and
balance could be used
for two other zones.
|
| http://www.ecost.com/detail.aspx?edp=40236464&source=EWBBASE&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=40236464
____________________________________________________________________________________
Quote: | Quote: | Be a better friend, newshound, and
know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
|
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jfaubion at tx.rr.com Guest
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:28 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Paging for analoge devices |
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Quote: | Quote: | need auto answer or how else would the audio come out of
| the speakers?
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One of the lowest cost solutions I've used for this is a Grandstream BT-200.
You can buy the phone for around $50, it supports auto answer, and it has a
miniature audio jack already on it. Just run the output to an amplifier and
speakers and your good to go.
John |
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stotaro at totarotechn... Guest
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:52 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Paging for analoge devices |
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On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:28 AM, John Faubion <jfaubion at tx.rr.com> wrote:
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | need auto answer or how else would the audio come out of
| the speakers?
|
One of the lowest cost solutions I've used for this is a Grandstream BT-200.
You can buy the phone for around $50, it supports auto answer, and it has a
miniature audio jack already on it. Just run the output to an amplifier and
speakers and your good to go.
John
|
Yes I suspect the GS ATAs (286/486) have the same option and have a
simple single pair analog RJ11 jack for an analog device. Might be
even cheaper and definitely lower profile than a full blown phone.
Besides that I have had bad luck with GS phones (based on the BT102s)
losing registration. This was quite some time ago but the ATAs never
gave me any problems.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro |
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stotaro at totarotechn... Guest
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:10 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Paging for analoge devices |
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Bilal,
So you want to page through your analog phones, no overhead paging. I
doubt this is possible.
I think your options are an IP phones such as the Polycom that
supports paging or using an AMP and speakers usually mounted high on
the wall or flush with a tile ceiling.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:58 AM, bilal ghayyad <bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: | Dear Steve;
Already we need to use the same analoge phones that is
connected to the fxs ports, to do paging to it.
What overhead?
Regards
Bilal
--- Steve Totaro <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com>
wrote:
Quote: | Bilal,
You will have great luck with Polycom then, not sure
about others.
Why not go for overhead paging? It will be much
easier.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:24 AM, bilal ghayyad
<bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: | And auto answer also will be needed for IP Phones?
Regards
Bilal
--- Steve Totaro <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com>
wrote:
Quote: | Bilal,
Sorry to reply to my reply but if you can
|
| register
Quote: | Quote: | multiple accounts
and setup auto answer on one of those accounts,
|
| it
Quote: | Quote: | could work. The
problem is, I am not sure if there are any ATAs
|
| that
Quote: | Quote: | have this
ability.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:
Quote: | Bilal,
No, I do not think that you can make this
|
|
| work.
Quote: | Quote: | You would obviously
Quote: | need auto answer or how else would the audio
|
|
| come
Quote: | Quote: | out of the speakers?
Quote: |
I thought you were talking about overhead
|
|
| paging.
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: |
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:49 AM, bilal
|
|
| ghayyad
Quote: | Quote: | <bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: | Quote: | Dear Steve;
I was asking about the ability to do
|
|
|
| paging on
Quote: | Quote: | the
Quote: | Quote: | normal analoge phones (which is connected
|
|
|
| to
Quote: | Quote: | fxs
Quote: | Quote: | ports, and it already receive and
|
|
|
| originate
Quote: | Quote: | calls on
Quote: | Quote: | the system). So does that work? If yes,
|
|
|
| do I
Quote: | Quote: | need
Quote: | Quote: | auto-answer? If I need auto-answer here,
|
|
|
| then
Quote: | Quote: | I will
Quote: | Quote: | face a problem in the calls which coming
|
| normally to
Quote: | Quote: | the analoge phone (when someone dial that
|
| extension).
Quote: | Quote: |
Any advise?
Regards
Bilal
--- Steve Totaro
|
| <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com>
Quote: | Quote: | wrote:
Quote: | Bogen is the defacto standard in
|
|
|
|
| quality
Quote: | Quote: | paging
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | equipment.
FXS port should work just fine with
|
|
| auto-answer
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | using any AMP.
The Onkyo suggestion was just an idea
|
|
|
|
| for a
Quote: | Quote: | cheaper
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | but probably
higher quality audio with more volume
|
|
|
|
| in a
Quote: | Quote: | loud
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | environment. I was
not saying you "needed" to use Onkyo,
|
|
|
|
| just
Quote: | Quote: | that you
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | could build a
paging system with a regular tuner,
|
|
|
|
| possibly
Quote: | Quote: | have
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | better sound, and do
it cheaper than going Bogen.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:39 AM, bilal
|
|
| ghayyad
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | <bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: | Hi All;
Just would like to know if Boger,
|
|
|
|
|
| UPAM,
Quote: | Quote: | and Onkyo
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | can
Quote: | be connected to the FXS ports and
|
|
|
|
|
| take
Quote: | Quote: | extension
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | from
Quote: | asterisk?
And why Onkyo is needed if I need to
|
|
|
|
|
| use
Quote: | Quote: | horn
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | speakers?
Regards
Bilal
---------------
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | bilal ghayyad wrote:
|
Quote: | Quote: | Steve Totaro wrote:
Quote: | On 4/5/08, bilal ghayyad
|
|
|
|
| <bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: | Quote: |
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | Anyone knows (tried) to
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| use
Quote: | Quote: | Page for
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | analoge
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | phone(zaptel channel -
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| fxs)? If
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | yes,
Quote: | how?
Quote: | Quote: |
Quote: | Quote: |
Sorry I did not understand
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| any
Quote: | Quote: | thing
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | from
Quote: | your
reply.
Quote: | Quote: |
Quote: | Google is your friend. I
|
|
|
|
|
|
| discovered very
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | quickly what
they were
talking
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | about by googling.
|
You may be able to find the
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| device
Quote: | Quote: | a little
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | cheaper, but
without
the brand
Quote: | Quote: | name, by searching for "UPAM".
|
|
|
|
|
| Typically,
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | these
Quote: | will have
the
"AT&T" or
Quote: | Quote: | "Lucent" names branded on
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| them,
Quote: | Quote: | despite
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | being
Quote: | identical and
Quote: | Quote: | manufactured by exactly the
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| same
|
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Paging for analoge devices |
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I am going on memory but I do recall that Aastra had a phone that used
ADSI codes that would 'turn on' a speaker on an analog phone
Quote: | -----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-
bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 3:10 PM
To: bilal ghayyad; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
| Discussion
Quote: | Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for analoge devices
Bilal,
So you want to page through your analog phones, no overhead paging. I
doubt this is possible.
I think your options are an IP phones such as the Polycom that
supports paging or using an AMP and speakers usually mounted high on
the wall or flush with a tile ceiling.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:58 AM, bilal ghayyad <bilmar_gh at yahoo.com>
wrote:
Quote: | Dear Steve;
Already we need to use the same analoge phones that is
connected to the fxs ports, to do paging to it.
What overhead?
Regards
Bilal
--- Steve Totaro <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com>
wrote:
Quote: | Bilal,
You will have great luck with Polycom then, not sure
about others.
Why not go for overhead paging? It will be much
easier.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:24 AM, bilal ghayyad
<bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: | And auto answer also will be needed for IP Phones?
Regards
Bilal
--- Steve Totaro <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com>
wrote:
Quote: | Bilal,
Sorry to reply to my reply but if you can
|
| register
Quote: | Quote: | multiple accounts
and setup auto answer on one of those accounts,
|
| it
Quote: | Quote: | could work. The
problem is, I am not sure if there are any ATAs
|
| that
Quote: | Quote: | have this
ability.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:
Quote: | Bilal,
No, I do not think that you can make this
|
|
| work.
Quote: | Quote: | You would obviously
Quote: | need auto answer or how else would the audio
|
|
| come
Quote: | Quote: | out of the speakers?
Quote: |
I thought you were talking about overhead
|
|
| paging.
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: |
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:49 AM, bilal
|
|
| ghayyad
Quote: | Quote: | <bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: | Quote: | Dear Steve;
I was asking about the ability to do
|
|
|
| paging on
Quote: | Quote: | the
Quote: | Quote: | normal analoge phones (which is connected
|
|
|
| to
Quote: | Quote: | fxs
Quote: | Quote: | ports, and it already receive and
|
|
|
| originate
Quote: | Quote: | calls on
Quote: | Quote: | the system). So does that work? If yes,
|
|
|
| do I
Quote: | Quote: | need
Quote: | Quote: | auto-answer? If I need auto-answer here,
|
|
|
| then
Quote: | Quote: | I will
Quote: | Quote: | face a problem in the calls which coming
|
| normally to
Quote: | Quote: | the analoge phone (when someone dial that
|
| extension).
Quote: | Quote: |
Any advise?
Regards
Bilal
--- Steve Totaro
|
| <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com>
Quote: | Quote: | wrote:
Quote: | Bogen is the defacto standard in
|
|
|
|
| quality
Quote: | Quote: | paging
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | equipment.
FXS port should work just fine with
|
|
| auto-answer
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | using any AMP.
The Onkyo suggestion was just an idea
|
|
|
|
| for a
Quote: | Quote: | cheaper
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | but probably
higher quality audio with more volume
|
|
|
|
| in a
Quote: | Quote: | loud
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | environment. I was
not saying you "needed" to use Onkyo,
|
|
|
|
| just
Quote: | Quote: | that you
Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | could build a
paging system with a regular tuner,
|
|
|
|
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Quote: | Quote: | have
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Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:39 AM, bilal
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Just would like to know if Boger,
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Regards
Bilal
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