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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 6:38 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in Production ? Reply with quote

Hi,

I'm wondering what version of asterisk people use in production
environnement ?
on which distribution ?

And what is your setup like ?

We are actually running an AsteriskNow appliance with asterisk 1.4.18.1
and it's quite unstable.
We have ~30 IAX2 SoftPhones and encounter some "Avoiding IAX destroy
deadlock"
and now that we have added a Queue, it's worse than ever. The queue goes
stuck quite often
(agent are stuck in 'In use' state and if they logoff they can't log-in
till an asterisk restart).
regards
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 6:58 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in Production ? Reply with quote

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 7:38 AM, Benoit Plessis <benoit at plessis.info> wrote:
Quote:

Hi,

I'm wondering what version of asterisk people use in production
environnement ?
on which distribution ?

And what is your setup like ?

We are actually running an AsteriskNow appliance with asterisk 1.4.18.1
and it's quite unstable.
We have ~30 IAX2 SoftPhones and encounter some "Avoiding IAX destroy
deadlock"
and now that we have added a Queue, it's worse than ever. The queue goes
stuck quite often
(agent are stuck in 'In use' state and if they logoff they can't log-in
till an asterisk restart).


regards


I am personally a proponent of Asterisk 1.2.X as I see more and more
fatal bugs in the 1.4.X code come up on the lists as well as IAX2
bugs. I constantly hear "Asterisk 1.4.whatever is much better, but
the bugs coming out are not just unexpected behavior that one could
live with, they are segfaults, system crashes, modules not getting
installed (Zaptel).

I use SIP since I have seen quite a few issues with IAX2 that were
solved by simply switching to SIP.

The above two yield solid systems under heavy load for me. OS is not
so important I do not believe. I have some running FC8 and more
running CentOS, both rock solid. I think the general consensus on OS
is use what you are most familiar with.

While these may not be popular opinions, I still ask, what does
SwitchVox use? What do some of the guys around here that setup large
systems use? Is ABE even using 1.4 yet? All I see in the ABE release
notes is 1.2 although I have heard that ABE should be running 1.4
"Very Soon" many many moons ago
http://www.digium.com/en/docs/ABE/README . So either Digium doesn't
trust 1.4 enough to use it for ABE or the README is out of date.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro
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vinicius at canall.com.br
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:11 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in Production ? Reply with quote

There were some really unstable Asterisk releases in the 1.4 branch. I personally use 1.4.13 or 1.4.15 in production. Every single time I tried 1.4.16 or higher I had problems.

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Vin?cius Fontes
Desenvolvimento
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----- "Steve Totaro" <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> escreveu:

Quote:
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 7:38 AM, Benoit Plessis <benoit at plessis.info>
wrote:
Quote:

Hi,

I'm wondering what version of asterisk people use in production
environnement ?
on which distribution ?

And what is your setup like ?

We are actually running an AsteriskNow appliance with asterisk
1.4.18.1
Quote:
and it's quite unstable.
We have ~30 IAX2 SoftPhones and encounter some "Avoiding IAX
destroy
Quote:
deadlock"
and now that we have added a Queue, it's worse than ever. The queue
goes
Quote:
stuck quite often
(agent are stuck in 'In use' state and if they logoff they can't
log-in
Quote:
till an asterisk restart).


regards


I am personally a proponent of Asterisk 1.2.X as I see more and more
fatal bugs in the 1.4.X code come up on the lists as well as IAX2
bugs. I constantly hear "Asterisk 1.4.whatever is much better, but
the bugs coming out are not just unexpected behavior that one could
live with, they are segfaults, system crashes, modules not getting
installed (Zaptel).

I use SIP since I have seen quite a few issues with IAX2 that were
solved by simply switching to SIP.

The above two yield solid systems under heavy load for me. OS is not
so important I do not believe. I have some running FC8 and more
running CentOS, both rock solid. I think the general consensus on OS
is use what you are most familiar with.

While these may not be popular opinions, I still ask, what does
SwitchVox use? What do some of the guys around here that setup large
systems use? Is ABE even using 1.4 yet? All I see in the ABE
release
notes is 1.2 although I have heard that ABE should be running 1.4
"Very Soon" many many moons ago
http://www.digium.com/en/docs/ABE/README . So either Digium doesn't
trust 1.4 enough to use it for ABE or the README is out of date.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 8:09 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in Production ? Reply with quote

Vin?cius Fontes wrote:
Quote:
There were some really unstable Asterisk releases in the 1.4 branch. I personally use 1.4.13 or 1.4.15 in production. Every single time I tried 1.4.16 or higher I had problems.



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Vin?cius Fontes
Desenvolvimento
Canall Tecnologia em Comunica??es Ltda.

----- "Steve Totaro" <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> escreveu:


Quote:
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 7:38 AM, Benoit Plessis <benoit at plessis.info>
wrote:

Quote:
Hi,

I'm wondering what version of asterisk people use in production
environnement ?
on which distribution ?

And what is your setup like ?

We are actually running an AsteriskNow appliance with asterisk

1.4.18.1

Quote:
and it's quite unstable.
We have ~30 IAX2 SoftPhones and encounter some "Avoiding IAX

destroy

Quote:
deadlock"
and now that we have added a Queue, it's worse than ever. The queue

goes

Quote:
stuck quite often
(agent are stuck in 'In use' state and if they logoff they can't

log-in

Quote:
till an asterisk restart).


regards


I am personally a proponent of Asterisk 1.2.X as I see more and more
fatal bugs in the 1.4.X code come up on the lists as well as IAX2
bugs. I constantly hear "Asterisk 1.4.whatever is much better, but
the bugs coming out are not just unexpected behavior that one could
live with, they are segfaults, system crashes, modules not getting
installed (Zaptel).

I use SIP since I have seen quite a few issues with IAX2 that were
solved by simply switching to SIP.

The above two yield solid systems under heavy load for me. OS is not
so important I do not believe. I have some running FC8 and more
running CentOS, both rock solid. I think the general consensus on OS
is use what you are most familiar with.

While these may not be popular opinions, I still ask, what does
SwitchVox use? What do some of the guys around here that setup large
systems use? Is ABE even using 1.4 yet? All I see in the ABE
release
notes is 1.2 although I have heard that ABE should be running 1.4
"Very Soon" many many moons ago
http://www.digium.com/en/docs/ABE/README . So either Digium doesn't
trust 1.4 enough to use it for ABE or the README is out of date.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

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I use 1.4.18 with no problems. We have quite a few users(125 total
between branches), but the call volume at the most has been around 15
active calls at a time.
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 8:18 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in Production ? Reply with quote

lordfuknowsyou a ?crit :
Quote:
Vin?cius Fontes wrote:

I use 1.4.18 with no problems. We have quite a few users(125 total
between branches), but the call volume at the most has been around 15
active calls at a time.

Any IAX2 phone or mostly SIP ?
Do you use Call Queues ?

We have less user than that, less concurrent call but quite a few
crash/deadlocks
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 8:19 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in Production ? Reply with quote

Quote:
I use 1.4.18 with no problems. We have quite a few users(125 total
between branches), but the call volume at the most has been around 15
active calls at a time.



I would classify that as "Light to Medium Call Volume" or "SMB".

Let me clarify what I consider "High Call Volume". ~400 simultaneous
calls, all SIP or 95 on a box doing quad PRI to SIP gateway duty.
15k+ calls a day lasting an average of fifteen minutes.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 8:29 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in Production ? Reply with quote

On Tuesday 06 May 2008 08:18:07 Benoit Plessis wrote:
Quote:
lordfuknowsyou a ?crit :
Quote:
Vin?cius Fontes wrote:

I use 1.4.18 with no problems. We have quite a few users(125 total
between branches), but the call volume at the most has been around 15
active calls at a time.

Any IAX2 phone or mostly SIP ?
Do you use Call Queues ?

We have less user than that, less concurrent call but quite a few
crash/deadlocks

Have you reported these issues on the bugtracker?

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Tilghman
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 8:29 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in Production ? Reply with quote

On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 07:58 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:
[snip]
Quote:
While these may not be popular opinions, I still ask, what does
SwitchVox use?

Not sure what Asterisk version they use but I saw (iirc) a presentation
on their website that they run switchvox on top of Fedora Core 6. FC6
has been end-of-line for a long, long time...

Regards,
Patrick
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 8:35 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in Production ? Reply with quote

On Tuesday 06 May 2008 06:58:39 Steve Totaro wrote:
Quote:
While these may not be popular opinions, I still ask, what does
SwitchVox use? What do some of the guys around here that setup large
systems use? Is ABE even using 1.4 yet?

Yes, ABE version C (in release for several months) is using the 1.4 codebase.

Quote:
All I see in the ABE release
notes is 1.2 although I have heard that ABE should be running 1.4
"Very Soon" many many moons ago
http://www.digium.com/en/docs/ABE/README . So either Digium doesn't
trust 1.4 enough to use it for ABE or the README is out of date.

The first clue should be that the copyright listed in that file is from 2006.
Yes, it's very much out of date.

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 8:51 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in Production ? Reply with quote

Mostly SIP, some of my clients have queues and everything is working fine by now.

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Vin?cius Fontes
Desenvolvimento
Canall Tecnologia em Comunica??es Ltda.

----- "Benoit Plessis" <benoit at plessis.info> escreveu:

Quote:
lordfuknowsyou a ?crit :
Quote:
Vin?cius Fontes wrote:

I use 1.4.18 with no problems. We have quite a few users(125 total
between branches), but the call volume at the most has been around
15
Quote:
active calls at a time.

Any IAX2 phone or mostly SIP ?
Do you use Call Queues ?

We have less user than that, less concurrent call but quite a few
crash/deadlocks


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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 8:55 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in Production ? Reply with quote

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Benoit Plessis <benoit at plessis.info> wrote:
Quote:
lordfuknowsyou a ?crit :

Quote:
Vin?cius Fontes wrote:

I use 1.4.18 with no problems. We have quite a few users(125 total
between branches), but the call volume at the most has been around 15
active calls at a time.

Any IAX2 phone or mostly SIP ?
Do you use Call Queues ?

We have less user than that, less concurrent call but quite a few
crash/deadlocks


Try SIP only if you can and report back. I think you will confirm
what is pretty much a silent consensus (even among Digium Devs).

Thanks,
Steve Totaro
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:01 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in Production ? Reply with quote

On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 01:38:37PM +0200, Benoit Plessis wrote:
Quote:
I'm wondering what version of asterisk people use in production
environnement ? on which distribution ?

And what is your setup like ?

Well, we're running a cluster of about 15 boxes or so with Slack 10 or
12 and 1.2.17(?, either 14 or 17) and VICIdial. Yeah, you'd call it
production. Smile

It runs, knock on Formica-laminated particle board, pretty well.

Cheers,
-- jra
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Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:02 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in Production ? Reply with quote

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Tilghman Lesher
<tilghman at mail.jeffandtilghman.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Tuesday 06 May 2008 06:58:39 Steve Totaro wrote:
Quote:
While these may not be popular opinions, I still ask, what does
SwitchVox use? What do some of the guys around here that setup large
systems use? Is ABE even using 1.4 yet?

Yes, ABE version C (in release for several months) is using the 1.4 codebase.


Quote:
All I see in the ABE release
notes is 1.2 although I have heard that ABE should be running 1.4
"Very Soon" many many moons ago
http://www.digium.com/en/docs/ABE/README . So either Digium doesn't
trust 1.4 enough to use it for ABE or the README is out of date.

The first clue should be that the copyright listed in that file is from 2006.
Yes, it's very much out of date.

--
Tilghman


Does "In Release" equate to "In the Wild" or "In Many Production
Installations" ?

Thanks,
Steve Totaro
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:04 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in Production ? Reply with quote

Tilghman Lesher wrote:
Quote:
On Tuesday 06 May 2008 06:58:39 Steve Totaro wrote:

Quote:
All I see in the ABE release
notes is 1.2 although I have heard that ABE should be running 1.4
"Very Soon" many many moons ago
http://www.digium.com/en/docs/ABE/README . So either Digium doesn't
trust 1.4 enough to use it for ABE or the README is out of date.


The first clue should be that the copyright listed in that file is from 2006.
Yes, it's very much out of date.



Fix it! Beat some of those tech writers into submission!

N.
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:11 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in Production ? Reply with quote

On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 10:01:54AM -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
Quote:
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 01:38:37PM +0200, Benoit Plessis wrote:
Quote:
I'm wondering what version of asterisk people use in production
environnement ? on which distribution ?

And what is your setup like ?

Well, we're running a cluster of about 15 boxes or so with Slack 10 or
12 and 1.2.17(?, either 14 or 17) and VICIdial. Yeah, you'd call it
production. Smile

Sorry: we're running zap channels at all the edges (Digium and Sangoma
quad-T cards, primarily), and IAX2 in the middle.

Cheers,
-- jra
--
Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra at baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100
Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24
St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274

Those who cast the vote decide nothing.
Those who count the vote decide everything.
-- (Joseph Stalin)
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