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jthompsonic at gmail.com
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 Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 9:03 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 3rd party developed commercial sof |
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Creating an "Ecosystem" for Asterisk developers to make money is a good thing.
I suggest creating an Asterisk Business Consortium (ABC), to which Digium is invited to participate as a member 
I think it's best for everyone's interests that it not be centrally controlled, but bring together individual developers and companies in a consortium, ABC, who have the objective of making money with Asterisk, and pooling their ideas, business models, common needs, talents, and resources to show how you can make money with Asterisk.
But the ABC brings together those who have an Asterisk passion to create viable business products and services that they can sell and compete in the marketplace.
It would be great to have a web site that would facilitate ABC.
We already have a discussion forum (asterisk-biz). What we need is a way to organize the discussion into potential products (needs), document those needs (Wiki) and provide a Marketplace (like Amazon.com) where ABC can sell and license their products.
I also suggest that this money making discussion be moved to the asterisk-biz discussion list.
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stotaro at totarotechn...
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| Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 3rd party developed commercial sof |
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On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Michael Collins <mcollins at fcnetwork.com> wrote:
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Gentlemen,
Dean Collins alerted me to this thread which I had skipped over. (Thanks,
Dean.) I thought I'd offer my viewpoint on the matter; please take it for
what it is ? just another opinion, although I hope it is an informed one.
From my personal experience with buying software, licensing, and even music
online, I've come to the conclusion that the best way to monetize an
application or module is to make it easy for your paying customers to pay.
Since thieves and hackers will always find ways around any security it is
pointless to spend lots of time and money making something "uncrackable,"
especially if that security implementation becomes onerous for your paying
customers. My viewpoint is this: make it easier to do a legit install than
to circumvent the security and you'll get most paying customers to pay.
Thieves don't generate revenue but paying customers do, so do your best to
make it easy for them to pay. That's my two cents, anyway.
I'm definitely interested in other viewpoints, contrary or otherwise. This
discussion is definitely an important one for OSS.
-Michael
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Can this thread be moved to the biz list? It really does not belong
here when words such as "the best way to monetize an application or
module" are used. If someone were asking how to license G729, then
fine but this has obviously evolved into a biz conversation.
As far as locking MAC to address, it is quite trivial to alter that
and providing you are not running two boxes on the same LAN with the
same MAC, it works flawlessly. Just ask Signate (if they are still
around) Maybe IPV6 might change that (if it ever becomes more than
talk and pet projects).
Thanks,
Steve Totaro |
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spamsucks2005 at gmail...
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:36 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 3rd party developed commercial sof |
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On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 5:40 AM, Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Can this thread be moved to the biz list? It really does not belong
here when words such as "the best way to monetize an application or
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The topic is still salient IMO, but again much posted here is opinion
The word license is often used. Sometimes a license is free, sometimes
not. The topic wold also be of interest to developers but not
appropriate for the devel list. I think with today's technology (email
filters for example) there's room for some latitude on this list. A
line can easily be drawn between "WE HAVE DIDs AVAILABLE" and a
serious discussion of licensing of 3rd party software in the asterisk
ecosystem.
/r |
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thp at westhawk.co.uk
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 4:54 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 3rd party developed commercial sof |
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On 8 May 2008, at 09:36, randulo wrote:
| Quote: | On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 5:40 AM, Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Can this thread be moved to the biz list? It really does not belong
here when words such as "the best way to monetize an application or
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The topic is still salient IMO, but again much posted here is
opinion
The word license is often used. Sometimes a license is free, sometimes
not. The topic wold also be of interest to developers but not
appropriate for the devel list. I think with today's technology (email
filters for example) there's room for some latitude on this list. A
line can easily be drawn between "WE HAVE DIDs AVAILABLE" and a
serious discussion of licensing of 3rd party software in the asterisk
ecosystem.
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Ok, I''ll bite. The question is:
Do we want asterisk to contain a licensing engine ?
Such an engine would need to :
Hand out license tokens to proprietary modules linked to asterisk
(like codecs etc)
Hand out license tokens to proprietary systems connected to asterisk
via manager (HUDs, etc)
Hand out license tokens to proprietary endpoints talking to asterisk
(softphones, media-gateways etc)
It is hard to imagine how such code could be implemented in a way that
was compatible
with GPL. I guess it could be put into ABE, but that's Digium's call
Past experience with license managers shows them to be the biggest
drain on
support resources and the largest single failure cause. Avoid them if
at all possible!
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tzafrir.cohen at xorco...
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:03 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 3rd party developed commercial sof |
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On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 10:54:36AM +0100, Tim Panton wrote:
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On 8 May 2008, at 09:36, randulo wrote:
| Quote: | On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 5:40 AM, Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Can this thread be moved to the biz list? It really does not belong
here when words such as "the best way to monetize an application or
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The topic is still salient IMO, but again much posted here is
opinion
The word license is often used. Sometimes a license is free, sometimes
not. The topic wold also be of interest to developers but not
appropriate for the devel list. I think with today's technology (email
filters for example) there's room for some latitude on this list. A
line can easily be drawn between "WE HAVE DIDs AVAILABLE" and a
serious discussion of licensing of 3rd party software in the asterisk
ecosystem.
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Ok, I''ll bite. The question is:
Do we want asterisk to contain a licensing engine ?
Such an engine would need to :
Hand out license tokens to proprietary modules linked to asterisk
(like codecs etc)
Hand out license tokens to proprietary systems connected to asterisk
via manager (HUDs, etc)
Hand out license tokens to proprietary endpoints talking to asterisk
(softphones, media-gateways etc)
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This means that a free software limits usage. This is not a good idea.
If you have the source you can always patch your way around it. If
Digium will do something as foolish as adding such a patch, any
alternative distribution of Asterisk will remove it.
And be worth more than Digium's copy.
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It is hard to imagine how such code could be implemented in a way that
was compatible
with GPL. I guess it could be put into ABE, but that's Digium's call
Past experience with license managers shows them to be the biggest
drain on support resources and the largest single failure cause. Avoid
them if at all possible!
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I agree that this is a pretty good way to kill the ABE product. I give a
little more credit to Digium.
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