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jwinius at umrk.to
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 Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Dutch Asterisk mailing list? |
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Hi folks,
Would anyone here happen to know of the existence of a Dutch Asterisk
mailing list? If so, where can it be found?
It's not that I'm unable to pose my questions here in English, but I'm
hoping that I may sooner find an answer there to the following question:
"What is the most reliable method for Asterisk
to detect the Called ID for incoming calls on
an analog line in the Netherlands?"
So far, I've tried using a Linksys SPA3000 and an SPA3102, as well as
a Digium Wildcard TDM401BF for this purpose, but all to no avail. I
suspect that there is a solution, but perhaps the people who are
familiar with it like to hang out somewhere else. At least, I hope
that's the case.
Can anyone help?
Thanks
Jaap |
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michiel at vanbaak.info
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 4:14 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Dutch Asterisk mailing list? |
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On 22:46, Sun 18 May 08, Jaap Winius wrote:
| Quote: | Hi folks,
Would anyone here happen to know of the existence of a Dutch Asterisk
mailing list? If so, where can it be found?
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Not that I know off.
I can start it if you want.
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It's not that I'm unable to pose my questions here in English, but I'm
hoping that I may sooner find an answer there to the following question:
"What is the most reliable method for Asterisk
to detect the Called ID for incoming calls on
an analog line in the Netherlands?"
So far, I've tried using a Linksys SPA3000 and an SPA3102, as well as
a Digium Wildcard TDM401BF for this purpose, but all to no avail. I
suspect that there is a solution, but perhaps the people who are
familiar with it like to hang out somewhere else. At least, I hope
that's the case.
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Cant help you with this.
Callerid in .nl is done with dtmf on analog lines. Maybe that is of some
help ?
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jwinius at umrk.to
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:34 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Dutch Asterisk mailing list? |
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Quoting Michiel van Baak <michiel at vanbaak.info>:
| Quote: | | Quote: | Would anyone here happen to know of the existence of a Dutch Asterisk
mailing list? If so, where can it be found?
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Not that I know off.
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I didn't think so. Either that, or its existence is a well kept secret!
| Quote: | I can start it if you want.
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Yeah, why not. Eventually, it may help to solve this and other
KPN-related problems, which can only be good for Asterisk adoption in
the Netherlands. I'll sign up for it if you let me know where.
I did find this forum, though:
http://www.asteriskguru.com/board/nederlands-dutch-vf3.html
However, it looks like it's never been very active (started in 2005, 4
messages this year so far).
| Quote: | | Quote: | "What is the most reliable method for Asterisk
to detect the Called ID for incoming calls on
an analog line in the Netherlands?"
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Cant help you with this.
Callerid in .nl is done with dtmf on analog lines. ...
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So far, I've learned that KPN Telecom uses DTMF with polarity
reversal. It is occasionally referred to as ETSI DTMF, after the
European Telecommunications Standards Institute. The caller's number
is transmitted after polarity reversal and just before ringing. Except
for a DTMF 'D', no notification is sent before the number is
transmitted. Following number transmission, a DTMF 'C' is sent and
finally the ring signal.
References and other interesting sources of info:
* Caller ID FAQ v2.32 1st April 2004
http://www.ainslie.org.uk/callerid/cli_faq.htm
* CLIP
http://www.blichfeldt.dk/faq/clip.htm
* [Asterisk-Dev] Support for DTMF style callerid signalling
http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-dev/2003-July/001162.html
Actually, I have found tantalizing evidence of a few successes:
* [RESOLVED] CallerID sometimes works in The Netherlands
http://forums.digium.com/viewtopic.php?p=17012&sid=9bb154b191a93dc47698cd123e3fd1b1
* Not Getting CID Through My A200
http://www.trixbox.org/forums/vendor-moderated-forums/sangoma/not-getting-cid-through-my-a200
Unfortunately, I must be missing something, because none of this works for me.
Cheers,
Jaap |
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info at tripple-o.nl
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 12:48 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Dutch Asterisk mailing list? |
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| Quote: | | Quote: | "What is the most reliable method for Asterisk
to detect the Called ID for incoming calls on
an analog line in the Netherlands?"
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In Holland you have to pay to receive cid info on the incoming line.
If you don't pay at the moment you can start with that.
There are 2 ways for a provider to deliver the cid,ETSI en FSK. In
Holland (with a couple of other countries) ETSI is used so if you have
a phone that only supports FSK the CID will never work. I still have a
couple of ETSI -> FSK converters catching dust. So if you pay for CID
but your phone doesn't support and you have a pot line connected to
your Asterisk server I can provide you with a solution for a couple of
EUR.
If you use the proper card maybe you can adjust the settings so it
supports ETSI instead of FSK. I used X100P cards and needed the
convertor to get proper CID
If the Dutch mailing list starts I will join 
Erik de Wild
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francesco at fampeeter...
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 1:23 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Dutch Asterisk mailing list? |
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Erik de Wild: Tripple-o wrote:
| Quote: | | Quote: | | Quote: | "What is the most reliable method for Asterisk
to detect the Called ID for incoming calls on
an analog line in the Netherlands?"
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In Holland you have to pay to receive cid info on the incoming line.
If you don't pay at the moment you can start with that.
There are 2 ways for a provider to deliver the cid,ETSI en FSK. In
Holland (with a couple of other countries) ETSI is used so if you have
a phone that only supports FSK the CID will never work. I still have a
couple of ETSI -> FSK converters catching dust. So if you pay for CID
but your phone doesn't support and you have a pot line connected to
your Asterisk server I can provide you with a solution for a couple of
EUR.
If you use the proper card maybe you can adjust the settings so it
supports ETSI instead of FSK. I used X100P cards and needed the
convertor to get proper CID
If the Dutch mailing list starts I will join
Erik de Wild
Tripple-o
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michiel at vanbaak.info
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 2:48 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Dutch Asterisk mailing list? |
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On 15:34, Mon 19 May 08, Jaap Winius wrote:
| Quote: | Quoting Michiel van Baak <michiel at vanbaak.info>:
| Quote: | I can start it if you want.
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Yeah, why not. Eventually, it may help to solve this and other
KPN-related problems, which can only be good for Asterisk adoption in
the Netherlands. I'll sign up for it if you let me know where.
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Feel free to join the brandnew asterisk-nl at lists.three-dimensional.net
Mailman webinterface is here:
http://lists.three-dimensional.net/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-nl
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Michiel van Baak
michiel at vanbaak.eu
http://michiel.vanbaak.eu
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jwinius at umrk.to
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:05 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Dutch Asterisk mailing list? |
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Quoting "Erik de Wild: Tripple-o" <info at tripple-o.nl>:
| Quote: | | Quote: | | Quote: | "What is the most reliable method for Asterisk
to detect the Called ID for incoming calls on
an analog line in the Netherlands?"
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In Holland you have to pay to receive cid info on the incoming line.
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I've got that and I've tested it (twice), so I know it works.
| Quote: | ... if you have a phone that only supports FSK the CID will never work.
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I've got one of those too; I used it for the above test.
| Quote: | I still have a couple of ETSI -> FSK converters catching dust. So
if you pay for CID but your phone doesn't support and you have a
pot line connected to your Asterisk server I can provide you with
a solution for a couple of EUR.
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Aha! That's definitely a workaround, but it sounds like it should work.
| Quote: | If you use the proper card maybe you can adjust the settings so it
supports ETSI instead of FSK.
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The proper card? Which one would that be? I've been told that my
TDM410 should work, but as I've said before, no luck so far. I'm
starting to believe that it may involve a magical combination of
settings along with chicken blood, frog entrails and some sort of
dance (a solution more familiar to Windows admins).
| Quote: | I used X100P cards and needed the convertor to get proper CID.
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Tired of wasting time, I suspect this will be the quickest way out for
me as well.
| Quote: | If the Dutch mailing list starts I will join
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I just added myself to the new list.
Cheers,
Jaap |
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