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dgray at xevio.com
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:50 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones Reply with quote

I am new to asterisk and am looking to setup a small office with 4-6 IP
phones and 4 analog lines from the local telco (primary line with HUNT
to the other lines). I am considering purchase of a Digium AEX800.

One of the features that will be important (particularly for the
receptionist desk is to show status of the other lines in use). I don't
want the receptionist to pick up a line if it being used.

Is there a list of phones that are BLF (Busy Lamp Field) compatible? I'm
assuming (after reading tons of misc articles) that this is what I need
in order for the receptionist not to pick up lines in use. If this is
not the case please set me straight.

I am considering the cisco 7960's, linksys SPA942, and possibly some
polycom phones. I was leaning toward the 7960 but I've read that it is
not BLF compatible. Are there any workarounds for this? I am new to the
game and would be grateful for any recommendations on which phones would
be the easiest to setup, etc. I currently have a working asterisk
install at home with a single cisco 7960 registered which isn't hooked
up to any trunks as of yet.

Thanks,

Dayton Gray
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:53 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones Reply with quote

dgray at xevio.com schrieb:
Quote:
I am new to asterisk and am looking to setup a small office with 4-6 IP
phones and 4 analog lines from the local telco (primary line with HUNT
to the other lines). I am considering purchase of a Digium AEX800.

One of the features that will be important (particularly for the
receptionist desk is to show status of the other lines in use). I don't
want the receptionist to pick up a line if it being used.

Is there a list of phones that are BLF (Busy Lamp Field) compatible? I'm
assuming (after reading tons of misc articles) that this is what I need
in order for the receptionist not to pick up lines in use. If this is
not the case please set me straight.

I am considering the cisco 7960's, linksys SPA942, and possibly some
polycom phones. I was leaning toward the 7960 but I've read that it is
not BLF compatible. Are there any workarounds for this? I am new to the
game and would be grateful for any recommendations on which phones would
be the easiest to setup, etc. I currently have a working asterisk
install at home with a single cisco 7960 registered which isn't hooked
up to any trunks as of yet.

Thanks,

Dayton Gray

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Hello,

i would say that the best phone u can get at the moment is the Linksys
SPA962 with an SPA932 Expansion Modul. Not only BLF and short dial works
perfect without any problem, also a pickup runs without doing to much
tricks in the asterisk config.

by the way the Spa942 doesnt have blf. Maybe this one could be
interesting for u too (www.snom.com) the Snom360 but it has some bugs,
but all of the one u said have less or more Smile

best regards

steve smith
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:56 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones Reply with quote

We use the linksys 942's and they work flawlessly and are easy to setup

The CISCO phones do not come with SIP, you have to upgrade their
firmware from a TFTP server.

dgray at xevio.com wrote:
Quote:
I am new to asterisk and am looking to setup a small office with 4-6 IP
phones and 4 analog lines from the local telco (primary line with HUNT
to the other lines). I am considering purchase of a Digium AEX800.

One of the features that will be important (particularly for the
receptionist desk is to show status of the other lines in use). I don't
want the receptionist to pick up a line if it being used.

Is there a list of phones that are BLF (Busy Lamp Field) compatible? I'm
assuming (after reading tons of misc articles) that this is what I need
in order for the receptionist not to pick up lines in use. If this is
not the case please set me straight.

I am considering the cisco 7960's, linksys SPA942, and possibly some
polycom phones. I was leaning toward the 7960 but I've read that it is
not BLF compatible. Are there any workarounds for this? I am new to the
game and would be grateful for any recommendations on which phones would
be the easiest to setup, etc. I currently have a working asterisk
install at home with a single cisco 7960 registered which isn't hooked
up to any trunks as of yet.

Thanks,

Dayton Gray

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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:58 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones Reply with quote

I'm using Aastra 57i + 560M sidecars for receptionists... the only downside is that they support a max of 50 BLF subscriptions... you can setup up to 180 blf keys with 3 560Ms but it will still only subscribe to a max of 50... from what I understand it's a firmware limitation.

For 4-6 phones you could probably get away with doing it directly on the 57i with no 560M's (or 536M's) too many more phones and you'd need the sidecars just for the extra buttons I think.

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Subject: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones
I am new to asterisk and am looking to setup a small office with 4-6 IP
phones and 4 analog lines from the local telco (primary line with HUNT
to the other lines). I am considering purchase of a Digium AEX800.

One of the features that will be important (particularly for the
receptionist desk is to show status of the other lines in use). I don't
want the receptionist to pick up a line if it being used.

Is there a list of phones that are BLF (Busy Lamp Field) compatible? I'm
assuming (after reading tons of misc articles) that this is what I need
in order for the receptionist not to pick up lines in use. If this is
not the case please set me straight.

I am considering the cisco 7960's, linksys SPA942, and possibly some
polycom phones. I was leaning toward the 7960 but I've read that it is
not BLF compatible. Are there any workarounds for this? I am new to the
game and would be grateful for any recommendations on which phones would
be the easiest to setup, etc. I currently have a working asterisk
install at home with a single cisco 7960 registered which isn't hooked
up to any trunks as of yet.

Thanks,

Dayton Gray

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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:03 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones Reply with quote

Quote:
One of the features that will be important (particularly for the
receptionist desk is to show status of the other lines in use). I
don't
want the receptionist to pick up a line if it being used.

Hi Dayton,

It's even easier than that. With an asterisk PBX your receptionist
shouldn't be "picking up" analog lines directly for either incoming or
outgoing calls. S/he will be able to sit back and file their nails and
answer the phone when it rings, and to dial out just let asterisk
manage the lines for that as well. You don't have to worry about
anyone managing the lines, let the software do the work.

If you fill up all the lines with either incoming or outgoing calls
you'll run into issues of course, but then it's a simple case of adding
lines to meet demand. You will want to keep track of usage for this
purpose, but it need not be actively managed by the receptionist unless
you specifically want them to. A small script is more reliable and
better for most cases.

If you've already got the server set up at home, dig through ATFOT a
little more and start configuring a line or two at home and you'll
start to realize how the config works.

Best regards,

David

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rob at hillis.dyndns.org
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 6:20 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones Reply with quote

SPA942s do not currently support BLF keys. The four "lit" buttons are
line keys only with the current firmware, although our Linksys rep has
assured us that it's a feature to be supported soon.
John Signorello wrote:
Quote:
We use the linksys 942's and they work flawlessly and are easy to setup

The CISCO phones do not come with SIP, you have to upgrade their
firmware from a TFTP server.

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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:34 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones Reply with quote

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:50 PM, <dgray at xevio.com> wrote:
Quote:

I am new to asterisk and am looking to setup a small office with 4-6 IP
phones and 4 analog lines from the local telco (primary line with HUNT
to the other lines). I am considering purchase of a Digium AEX800.

One of the features that will be important (particularly for the
receptionist desk is to show status of the other lines in use). I don't
want the receptionist to pick up a line if it being used.

Is there a list of phones that are BLF (Busy Lamp Field) compatible? I'm
assuming (after reading tons of misc articles) that this is what I need
in order for the receptionist not to pick up lines in use. If this is
not the case please set me straight.

I am considering the cisco 7960's, linksys SPA942, and possibly some
polycom phones. I was leaning toward the 7960 but I've read that it is
not BLF compatible. Are there any workarounds for this? I am new to the
game and would be grateful for any recommendations on which phones would
be the easiest to setup, etc. I currently have a working asterisk
install at home with a single cisco 7960 registered which isn't hooked
up to any trunks as of yet.

Thanks,

Dayton Gray


You select lines with a "Key System", a "PBX" simply uses a pool of
lines. You may not even need or want any BLF (Busy Lamp Field) or SLA
(Shared Line Appearances) because Asterisk is a PBX (for the most
part).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_branch_exchange

"PBXs are differentiated from "key systems" in that users of key
systems manually select their own outgoing lines, while PBXs select
the outgoing line automatically. Hybrid systems combine features of
both."

Thanks,
Steve Totaro
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 9:00 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones Reply with quote

dgray at xevio.com wrote:
Quote:
I am new to asterisk and am looking to setup a small office with 4-6 IP
phones and 4 analog lines from the local telco (primary line with HUNT
to the other lines). I am considering purchase of a Digium AEX800.

One of the features that will be important (particularly for the
receptionist desk is to show status of the other lines in use). I don't
want the receptionist to pick up a line if it being used.

Is there a list of phones that are BLF (Busy Lamp Field) compatible? I'm
assuming (after reading tons of misc articles) that this is what I need
in order for the receptionist not to pick up lines in use. If this is
not the case please set me straight.

I am considering the cisco 7960's, linksys SPA942, and possibly some
polycom phones. I was leaning toward the 7960 but I've read that it is
not BLF compatible. Are there any workarounds for this? I am new to the
game and would be grateful for any recommendations on which phones would
be the easiest to setup, etc. I currently have a working asterisk
install at home with a single cisco 7960 registered which isn't hooked
up to any trunks as of yet.

Thanks,

Dayton Gray

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I concur with one of the earlier posts that the Aastra 57i (or 57iCT)
with the 560m LCD side car works very well. LCD side cars are ideal
because they're alway up to date and paper based sidecars look messy.

The Aastra 57iCT is unique in that it adds a portable handset which
gives the admin the ability to go to other parts of the office and still
handle calls.

The Polycom 650 with it's sidecar also works well with BLF.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 1:36 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones Reply with quote

On May 19, 2008 12:51:09 pm Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy wrote:
Quote:
Hmm, i dont like aastra really much, their transfer management is not human
friendly Wink

What do you mean by that? I've run my Aastra's with BLF using both
Aastra's 'blf' mode and 'blfxfer' mode... the former is basically attended
transfer, and the later is basically blind transfer... both of which our
staff haven;t had any problems with.

using 'blf' its basically
1. press xfer
2. press blf key
3. ask if they want to take the call
4. press xfer again

using 'blfxfer' its:
1. press blf key

In both modes the blf keys also act as speed-dial keys.

I don't really see how either of those is not 'human friendly'? Or maybe I'm
just completely off on what you mean.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 1:38 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones Reply with quote

I have the SPA962 with the SPA932 side car and it works great, once I got it to configure correctly for my Asterisk PBX system, which has a Digium TDM03B WILD CARD installed. I like the Cisco/Linksys SPA models because they have good and easy configuration webpages for the VOIP phones.

Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 18:51:09 +0200
From: megahohol at gmail.com
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones

Hmm, i dont like aastra really much, their transfer management is not human friendly Wink

Polycom or Snom is our choice (snom 340)

2008/5/18 Sigma Networks <sigma at easymail123.com>:

dgray at xevio.com wrote:

Quote:
I am new to asterisk and am looking to setup a small office with 4-6 IP

Quote:
phones and 4 analog lines from the local telco (primary line with HUNT

Quote:
to the other lines). I am considering purchase of a Digium AEX800.


Quote:
One of the features that will be important (particularly for the

Quote:
receptionist desk is to show status of the other lines in use). I don't

Quote:
want the receptionist to pick up a line if it being used.


Quote:
Is there a list of phones that are BLF (Busy Lamp Field) compatible? I'm

Quote:
assuming (after reading tons of misc articles) that this is what I need

Quote:
in order for the receptionist not to pick up lines in use. If this is

Quote:
not the case please set me straight.


Quote:
I am considering the cisco 7960's, linksys SPA942, and possibly some

Quote:
polycom phones. I was leaning toward the 7960 but I've read that it is

Quote:
not BLF compatible. Are there any workarounds for this? I am new to the

Quote:
game and would be grateful for any recommendations on which phones would

Quote:
be the easiest to setup, etc. I currently have a working asterisk

Quote:
install at home with a single cisco 7960 registered which isn't hooked

Quote:
up to any trunks as of yet.


Quote:
Thanks,


Quote:
Dayton Gray


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I concur with one of the earlier posts that the Aastra 57i (or 57iCT)

with the 560m LCD side car works very well. LCD side cars are ideal

because they're alway up to date and paper based sidecars look messy.



The Aastra 57iCT is unique in that it adds a portable handset which

gives the admin the ability to go to other parts of the office and still

handle calls.



The Polycom 650 with it's sidecar also works well with BLF.







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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 6:51 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones Reply with quote

Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy wrote:
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Hmm, i dont like aastra really much, their transfer management is not human
friendly Wink

Fwiw, their new 9i series (9143, et al) have BLF/xfer, speeddial/xfer
feature that features one button transfer, eliminating the need for the
transfer button for any preprogrammed extensions.
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:22 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones Reply with quote

Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy wrote:
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Glad to hear that, I do remember my aastra phone xfer button crashed
asterisk every time i pressed it Wink
Odd. I've been using Aastra phones for about 1-1/2 to 2 years now, and
never once have I had that problem. I've had the Aastra phones crash
(BLF was quite buggy with firmware versions before a certain date), but
never have I had Asterisk itself crash because of a phone; not even some
cheap phones from Taiwan.
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