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mark.h at cage151.com
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 Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] reload stopping EVERYTHING on CLI and causi |
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Thanks Steve.
Using 1.4.18, and I don't think it's fixed.
The unresponsiveness is permanent - although I do try to not reload during
work hours, sometimes it's just necessary.. especially when someone asks for
a new queue.
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
Sent: May 22, 2008 3:12 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] reload stopping EVERYTHING on CLI and causing
havoc.
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Sherwood McGowan
<sherwood.mcgowan at gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Mark Hamilton wrote:
| Quote: |
Hi,
Yesterday I made a change in queues.conf and so tried doing a reload
app_queue.so in the CLI. (Using 1.4.1 . It didn't seem to do
anything, infact all action on CLI stopped.
Then, I did a reload. Same thing.
After that there was no other way.. because even stop now wouldn't
work, so I did a service asterisk restart
And then asterisk kept giving the same thing on prompt "Died
successfully" and all that it usually says when you issue a stop now,
except it kept showing that on root prompt after doing a service
asterisk restart.
Did a killall asterisk, and finally it stopped.
Then started asterisk service. It was fine.
Did a full restart at night, and it was fine.
NOW, I wanted to do a reload again today mid-day when in full use, and
it still didn't work, and ALL of the above happened again.
--
How do I diagnose what's causing this?
Thanks,
Mark.
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I've had this problem before, haven't debugged it. I definitely look
forward to hearing what is said about this.
Example from my recent experience, I wanted to restart the server and so
did
pbx0*CLI> restart now
But nothing happened...system continued to allow calls to take place.
I've found that sometimes exiting and reconnecting to the CLI helps, but
there have been a couple occasions where NOTHING would allow the server
to restart save for a reboot. Even killall asterisk didn't kill the
process....
Sherwood McGowan
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You are using Asterisk 1.2.x? I have seen this many, many times.
Sometimes the CLI becomes unresponsive, sometimes queues crap out or
stops delivering calls to agents, sometimes it just takes a bit and
then becomes responsive again.
The rule of thumb is don't reload queues when there are people in
queue, at least that seems to eliminate the problems I have seen.
Makes sense too.
Not sure if it is fixed in 1.4.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
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mark.h at cage151.com
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 2:38 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] reload stopping EVERYTHING on CLI and causi |
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That's true. But that's exactly why it's not used and conf is much easier.
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
Sent: May 22, 2008 3:34 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] reload stopping EVERYTHING on CLI and causing
havoc.
You can create queues via AMI although it won't survive a restart.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Mark Hamilton <mark.h at cage151.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks Steve.
Using 1.4.18, and I don't think it's fixed.
The unresponsiveness is permanent - although I do try to not reload during
work hours, sometimes it's just necessary.. especially when someone asks
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for
| Quote: | a new queue.
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
Sent: May 22, 2008 3:12 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] reload stopping EVERYTHING on CLI and
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causing
| Quote: | havoc.
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Sherwood McGowan
<sherwood.mcgowan at gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Mark Hamilton wrote:
| Quote: |
Hi,
Yesterday I made a change in queues.conf and so tried doing a reload
app_queue.so in the CLI. (Using 1.4.1. It didn't seem to do
anything, infact all action on CLI stopped.
Then, I did a reload. Same thing.
After that there was no other way.. because even stop now wouldn't
work, so I did a service asterisk restart
And then asterisk kept giving the same thing on prompt "Died
successfully" and all that it usually says when you issue a stop now,
except it kept showing that on root prompt after doing a service
asterisk restart.
Did a killall asterisk, and finally it stopped.
Then started asterisk service. It was fine.
Did a full restart at night, and it was fine.
NOW, I wanted to do a reload again today mid-day when in full use, and
it still didn't work, and ALL of the above happened again.
--
How do I diagnose what's causing this?
Thanks,
Mark.
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I've had this problem before, haven't debugged it. I definitely look
forward to hearing what is said about this.
Example from my recent experience, I wanted to restart the server and so
did
pbx0*CLI> restart now
But nothing happened...system continued to allow calls to take place.
I've found that sometimes exiting and reconnecting to the CLI helps, but
there have been a couple occasions where NOTHING would allow the server
to restart save for a reboot. Even killall asterisk didn't kill the
process....
Sherwood McGowan
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You are using Asterisk 1.2.x? I have seen this many, many times.
Sometimes the CLI becomes unresponsive, sometimes queues crap out or
stops delivering calls to agents, sometimes it just takes a bit and
then becomes responsive again.
The rule of thumb is don't reload queues when there are people in
queue, at least that seems to eliminate the problems I have seen.
Makes sense too.
Not sure if it is fixed in 1.4.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
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mark.h at cage151.com
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 2:58 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] reload stopping EVERYTHING on CLI and causi |
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1) rains down bullets
2) more work, but surely doable
3) yes, but that's a work around to the problem and inconvenient for 24/7
production box.
Either way, the reload worked perfectly fine before - even with callers
logged in and in full production.
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
Sent: May 22, 2008 3:49 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] reload stopping EVERYTHING on CLI and causing
havoc.
Three options.
1. Open a bug report and hope someone fixes it.
2. Use AMI AND write the new .conf entry at the same time!
3. Reload queues when empty.
I don't really understand what the issue is with number two. Although
I am not a programmer, I can see why reloading queues with callers in
the queues might be a problem.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Mark Hamilton <mark.h at cage151.com> wrote:
| Quote: | That's true. But that's exactly why it's not used and conf is much easier.
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
Sent: May 22, 2008 3:34 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] reload stopping EVERYTHING on CLI and
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causing
| Quote: | havoc.
You can create queues via AMI although it won't survive a restart.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Mark Hamilton <mark.h at cage151.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks Steve.
Using 1.4.18, and I don't think it's fixed.
The unresponsiveness is permanent - although I do try to not reload
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during
| Quote: | | Quote: | work hours, sometimes it's just necessary.. especially when someone asks
|
for
| Quote: | a new queue.
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve
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Totaro
| Quote: | | Quote: | Sent: May 22, 2008 3:12 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] reload stopping EVERYTHING on CLI and
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causing
| Quote: | havoc.
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Sherwood McGowan
<sherwood.mcgowan at gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Mark Hamilton wrote:
| Quote: |
Hi,
Yesterday I made a change in queues.conf and so tried doing a reload
app_queue.so in the CLI. (Using 1.4.1. It didn't seem to do
anything, infact all action on CLI stopped.
Then, I did a reload. Same thing.
After that there was no other way.. because even stop now wouldn't
work, so I did a service asterisk restart
And then asterisk kept giving the same thing on prompt "Died
successfully" and all that it usually says when you issue a stop now,
except it kept showing that on root prompt after doing a service
asterisk restart.
Did a killall asterisk, and finally it stopped.
Then started asterisk service. It was fine.
Did a full restart at night, and it was fine.
NOW, I wanted to do a reload again today mid-day when in full use, and
it still didn't work, and ALL of the above happened again.
--
How do I diagnose what's causing this?
Thanks,
Mark.
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| Quote: | | Quote: | | Quote: | I've had this problem before, haven't debugged it. I definitely look
forward to hearing what is said about this.
Example from my recent experience, I wanted to restart the server and so
did
pbx0*CLI> restart now
But nothing happened...system continued to allow calls to take place.
I've found that sometimes exiting and reconnecting to the CLI helps, but
there have been a couple occasions where NOTHING would allow the server
to restart save for a reboot. Even killall asterisk didn't kill the
process....
Sherwood McGowan
|
You are using Asterisk 1.2.x? I have seen this many, many times.
Sometimes the CLI becomes unresponsive, sometimes queues crap out or
stops delivering calls to agents, sometimes it just takes a bit and
then becomes responsive again.
The rule of thumb is don't reload queues when there are people in
queue, at least that seems to eliminate the problems I have seen.
Makes sense too.
Not sure if it is fixed in 1.4.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
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mark.h at cage151.com
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 3:07 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] reload stopping EVERYTHING on CLI and causi |
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Before adding one agent to a queue.
I guess realtime queues is something I should be looking into..
Other than that, this is bad. How long will Asterisk users have to look for
band-aid answers?
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
Sent: May 22, 2008 4:02 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] reload stopping EVERYTHING on CLI and causing
havoc.
Before what? Revert to that if you had no problems. You could do
realtime queues too.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Mark Hamilton <mark.h at cage151.com> wrote:
| Quote: | 1) rains down bullets
2) more work, but surely doable
3) yes, but that's a work around to the problem and inconvenient for 24/7
production box.
Either way, the reload worked perfectly fine before - even with callers
logged in and in full production.
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
Sent: May 22, 2008 3:49 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] reload stopping EVERYTHING on CLI and
|
causing
| Quote: | havoc.
Three options.
1. Open a bug report and hope someone fixes it.
2. Use AMI AND write the new .conf entry at the same time!
3. Reload queues when empty.
I don't really understand what the issue is with number two. Although
I am not a programmer, I can see why reloading queues with callers in
the queues might be a problem.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Mark Hamilton <mark.h at cage151.com> wrote:
| Quote: | That's true. But that's exactly why it's not used and conf is much
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easier.
| Quote: | | Quote: |
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve
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Totaro
| Quote: | | Quote: | Sent: May 22, 2008 3:34 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] reload stopping EVERYTHING on CLI and
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causing
| Quote: | havoc.
You can create queues via AMI although it won't survive a restart.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Mark Hamilton <mark.h at cage151.com>
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wrote:
| Quote: | | Quote: | | Quote: | Thanks Steve.
Using 1.4.18, and I don't think it's fixed.
The unresponsiveness is permanent - although I do try to not reload
|
|
during
| Quote: | | Quote: | work hours, sometimes it's just necessary.. especially when someone asks
|
for
| Quote: | a new queue.
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve
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Totaro
| Quote: | | Quote: | Sent: May 22, 2008 3:12 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] reload stopping EVERYTHING on CLI and
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causing
| Quote: | havoc.
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Sherwood McGowan
<sherwood.mcgowan at gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Mark Hamilton wrote:
| Quote: |
Hi,
Yesterday I made a change in queues.conf and so tried doing a reload
app_queue.so in the CLI. (Using 1.4.1. It didn't seem to do
anything, infact all action on CLI stopped.
Then, I did a reload. Same thing.
After that there was no other way.. because even stop now wouldn't
work, so I did a service asterisk restart
And then asterisk kept giving the same thing on prompt "Died
successfully" and all that it usually says when you issue a stop now,
except it kept showing that on root prompt after doing a service
asterisk restart.
Did a killall asterisk, and finally it stopped.
Then started asterisk service. It was fine.
Did a full restart at night, and it was fine.
NOW, I wanted to do a reload again today mid-day when in full use, and
it still didn't work, and ALL of the above happened again.
--
How do I diagnose what's causing this?
Thanks,
Mark.
|
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| Quote: | | Quote: | | Quote: | I've had this problem before, haven't debugged it. I definitely look
forward to hearing what is said about this.
Example from my recent experience, I wanted to restart the server and
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so
| Quote: | | Quote: | | Quote: | | Quote: | did
pbx0*CLI> restart now
But nothing happened...system continued to allow calls to take place.
I've found that sometimes exiting and reconnecting to the CLI helps,
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but
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mark.h at cage151.com
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| Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 10:17 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] reload stopping EVERYTHING on CLI and causi |
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Also what do I do if I see deadlocks all over the CLI?
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hamilton
Sent: May 23, 2008 12:13 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] reload stopping EVERYTHING on CLI and causing
havoc.
Hi Sherwood,
I've done the backtrace. Maybe you can submit yours too.
http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=12709
Thanks,
Mark.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] reload stopping EVERYTHING on CLI and
causing havoc.
From: Sherwood McGowan <sherwood.mcgowan at gmail.com>
Date: Thu, May 22, 2008 7:13 pm
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
<asterisk-users at lists.digium.com>
<snip>
True True...it's only been a minor annoyance for me, but in the interest
of improving Asterisk I should go ahead and rebuild using the debug
settings and submit a backtrace.
Sherwood MCGowan
<snip>
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