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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:03 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] 911 via MAX TNT ?? Reply with quote

Without knowing more about how you have your TNT set up, typically you'd
configure your outbound T1's to a specific trunkgroup and prepend that
trunkgroup number to the phonenumber.

Should it be assumed that 172.16.10.230 is the address of the TNT?

Mik

Joe Carroll wrote:
Quote:
Quick question for the folks using MAX TNTs for aggregators..



When I send a call out the MAX I get the following?.



-- Got SIP response 484 "Address Incomplete" back from 172.16.10.230



Any ideas on how to make 911 appear as a ten digit number to the device
so that it will pass the number out to the PSTN ?




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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:10 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] 911 via MAX TNT ?? Reply with quote

Hi Mik:
The TNT is at the ip address 172.16.10.230 and the asterisk box is at 172.16.10.240...
The trunk group is 3100.. so we send 3100911 to the TNT and get the message below.. I couldn't figure it out.. any ideas ??



-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Mik Cheez
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:03 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 911 via MAX TNT ??

Without knowing more about how you have your TNT set up, typically you'd
configure your outbound T1's to a specific trunkgroup and prepend that
trunkgroup number to the phonenumber.

Should it be assumed that 172.16.10.230 is the address of the TNT?

Mik

Joe Carroll wrote:
Quote:
Quick question for the folks using MAX TNTs for aggregators..



When I send a call out the MAX I get the following....



-- Got SIP response 484 "Address Incomplete" back from 172.16.10.230



Any ideas on how to make 911 appear as a ten digit number to the device
so that it will pass the number out to the PSTN ?




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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:48 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] 911 via MAX TNT ?? Reply with quote

On 6/3/08, Joe Carroll <Joe at myl2n.com> wrote:
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Quick question for the folks using MAX TNTs for aggregators..



When I send a call out the MAX I get the following?.



-- Got SIP response 484 "Address Incomplete" back from 172.16.10.230



Any ideas on how to make 911 appear as a ten digit number to the device so
that it will pass the number out to the PSTN ?


I've never used a TNT before but what does your dial pattern matching look like?

If you were using Asterisk, your match would probably look like this:

_NXXNXXXXXX

"911" would match NXX but not the remaining digits, hence the 484
Address Incomplete. I bet your TNT is doing something similar

However:
_NXXNXXXXXX
_911

Would work just fine (in Asterisk). You need to figure out how to do
something similar on your TNT.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:38 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] 911 via MAX TNT ?? Reply with quote

The first place you may want to look is in the SYSLOG of the TNT,
allowing you to see things such as the ISDN error code along with the
SIP code. You can try to catch that on the terminal of the TNT, but it
may make more sense to pipe your syslogs out to an external box, if you
aren't doing it already.

JR's suggestion that it may be a limit of the trunk you're using.

Joe Carroll wrote:
Quote:
Hi Mik:
The TNT is at the ip address 172.16.10.230 and the asterisk box is at 172.16.10.240...


The trunk group is 3100.. so we send 3100911 to the TNT and get the message below.. I couldn't figure it out.. any ideas ??



-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Mik Cheez
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:03 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 911 via MAX TNT ??

Without knowing more about how you have your TNT set up, typically you'd
configure your outbound T1's to a specific trunkgroup and prepend that
trunkgroup number to the phonenumber.

Should it be assumed that 172.16.10.230 is the address of the TNT?

Mik

Joe Carroll wrote:
Quote:
Quick question for the folks using MAX TNTs for aggregators..



When I send a call out the MAX I get the following....



-- Got SIP response 484 "Address Incomplete" back from 172.16.10.230



Any ideas on how to make 911 appear as a ten digit number to the device
so that it will pass the number out to the PSTN ?




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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:20 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] 911 via MAX TNT ?? Reply with quote

See below, we replaced the area code and prefix of with NPANXX for concerns....

Interestingly enough, on the syslog messages from the TNT we are seeing "Called = 911, Q850 Cause = 28, SIP Response = 484"
Extension Changed NPANXX7604 new state InUse for Notify User NPANXX7555
-- Executing [911 at customer:1] Set("SIP/NPANXX7604-08c46518", "CALLERID(number)=NPANXX3551") in new stack
-- Executing [911 at customer:2] Dial("SIP/NPANXX7604-08c46518", "SIP/To-TNT/3100911") in new stack
-- Called To-TNT/3100911
Really destroying SIP dialog '2dad0a5f25551cd2699ba0107183a024 at 172.16.10.240' Method: NOTIFY
-- Got SIP response 484 "Address Incomplete" back from 172.16.10.230
== Everyone is busy/congested at this time (1:0/0/1)
== Auto fallthrough, channel 'SIP/NPANXX7604-08c46518' status is 'CHANUNAVAIL'
-- Executing [h at customer:1] Set("SIP/NPANXX7604-08c46518", "CDR(userfield)=") in new stack
Extension Changed NXX5557604 new state Idle for Notify User NXX5557555

-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Mik Cheez
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 11:39 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 911 via MAX TNT ??

The first place you may want to look is in the SYSLOG of the TNT,
allowing you to see things such as the ISDN error code along with the
SIP code. You can try to catch that on the terminal of the TNT, but it
may make more sense to pipe your syslogs out to an external box, if you
aren't doing it already.

JR's suggestion that it may be a limit of the trunk you're using.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:56 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] 911 via MAX TNT ?? Reply with quote

Cause 28 indicates "Invalid number format".

Joe Carroll wrote:
Quote:
See below, we replaced the area code and prefix of with NPANXX for concerns....

Interestingly enough, on the syslog messages from the TNT we are seeing "Called = 911, Q850 Cause = 28, SIP Response = 484"


Extension Changed NPANXX7604 new state InUse for Notify User NPANXX7555
-- Executing [911 at customer:1] Set("SIP/NPANXX7604-08c46518", "CALLERID(number)=NPANXX3551") in new stack
-- Executing [911 at customer:2] Dial("SIP/NPANXX7604-08c46518", "SIP/To-TNT/3100911") in new stack
-- Called To-TNT/3100911
Really destroying SIP dialog '2dad0a5f25551cd2699ba0107183a024 at 172.16.10.240' Method: NOTIFY
-- Got SIP response 484 "Address Incomplete" back from 172.16.10.230
== Everyone is busy/congested at this time (1:0/0/1)
== Auto fallthrough, channel 'SIP/NPANXX7604-08c46518' status is 'CHANUNAVAIL'
-- Executing [h at customer:1] Set("SIP/NPANXX7604-08c46518", "CDR(userfield)=") in new stack
Extension Changed NXX5557604 new state Idle for Notify User NXX5557555

-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Mik Cheez
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 11:39 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 911 via MAX TNT ??

The first place you may want to look is in the SYSLOG of the TNT,
allowing you to see things such as the ISDN error code along with the
SIP code. You can try to catch that on the terminal of the TNT, but it
may make more sense to pipe your syslogs out to an external box, if you
aren't doing it already.

JR's suggestion that it may be a limit of the trunk you're using.



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] 911 via MAX TNT ?? Reply with quote

On June 4, 2008 06:20:57 pm Joe Carroll wrote:
Quote:
Interestingly enough, on the syslog messages from the TNT we are seeing
"Called = 911, Q850 Cause = 28, SIP Response = 484"

That really looks like the switch that the TNT is talking to is rejecting the
number, not the TNT...

-A.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:27 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] 911 via MAX TNT ?? Reply with quote

On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 08:07:18PM -0400, Andrew Kohlsmith (lists) wrote:
Quote:
On June 4, 2008 06:20:57 pm Joe Carroll wrote:
Quote:
Interestingly enough, on the syslog messages from the TNT we are seeing
"Called = 911, Q850 Cause = 28, SIP Response = 484"

That really looks like the switch that the TNT is talking to is rejecting the
number, not the TNT...

Remember: "9-1-1" is a *dialling pattern*, not a *directory number*;
it's entirely possible that trunks wouldn't accept it directly.

This *is* a *LEC* trunk, right?

Cheers,
-- jra
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Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100
Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24
St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:51 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] 911 via MAX TNT ?? Reply with quote

Yes, we are using the max tnt to aggregate several PRIs both inbound and outbound from multiple carriers. This PRI is a normal two way circuit that a carrier would deliver to an end user...

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From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Jay R. Ashworth [jra at baylink.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:27 AM
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 911 via MAX TNT ??

On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 08:07:18PM -0400, Andrew Kohlsmith (lists) wrote:
Quote:
On June 4, 2008 06:20:57 pm Joe Carroll wrote:
Quote:
Interestingly enough, on the syslog messages from the TNT we are seeing
"Called = 911, Q850 Cause = 28, SIP Response = 484"

That really looks like the switch that the TNT is talking to is rejecting the
number, not the TNT...

Remember: "9-1-1" is a *dialling pattern*, not a *directory number*;
it's entirely possible that trunks wouldn't accept it directly.

This *is* a *LEC* trunk, right?

Cheers,
-- jra
--
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Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100
Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24
St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:46 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] 911 via MAX TNT ?? Reply with quote

We talked with the LEC and discovered that 911 has to be sent as Unknown instead of National... Anyone know how we might tell the TNT to do this? Apparently, according to the carrier, all Special Access Numbers, 411, 611, 911, etc require this special code ???

PRI DEBUG FOLLOWS:
<--nt SETUP CRV=14997 (Orig) Prot=Q931 12:51:47.260 06-06-08
Bearer_Cap 80 90 A2 (Speech,Rate=64K)
Channel_Id A1 83 83 (Pref,Intf=0,Chan=3)
Calling_Num (National,Restricted,Failed) 2293174444
Called_Num (National) 911

-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Joe Carroll
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 6:52 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 911 via MAX TNT ??

Yes, we are using the max tnt to aggregate several PRIs both inbound and outbound from multiple carriers. This PRI is a normal two way circuit that a carrier would deliver to an end user...



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From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Jay R. Ashworth [jra at baylink.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:27 AM
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 911 via MAX TNT ??

On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 08:07:18PM -0400, Andrew Kohlsmith (lists) wrote:
Quote:
On June 4, 2008 06:20:57 pm Joe Carroll wrote:
Quote:
Interestingly enough, on the syslog messages from the TNT we are seeing
"Called = 911, Q850 Cause = 28, SIP Response = 484"

That really looks like the switch that the TNT is talking to is rejecting the
number, not the TNT...

Remember: "9-1-1" is a *dialling pattern*, not a *directory number*;
it's entirely possible that trunks wouldn't accept it directly.

This *is* a *LEC* trunk, right?

Cheers,
-- jra
--
Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra at baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100
Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24
St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:11 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] 911 via MAX TNT ?? Reply with quote

I believe the ISDN call plan can be configured as part of the trunk
group / route.

Joe Carroll wrote:
Quote:
We talked with the LEC and discovered that 911 has to be sent as Unknown instead of National... Anyone know how we might tell the TNT to do this? Apparently, according to the carrier, all Special Access Numbers, 411, 611, 911, etc require this special code ???

PRI DEBUG FOLLOWS:


<--nt SETUP CRV=14997 (Orig) Prot=Q931 12:51:47.260 06-06-08
Bearer_Cap 80 90 A2 (Speech,Rate=64K)
Channel_Id A1 83 83 (Pref,Intf=0,Chan=3)
Calling_Num (National,Restricted,Failed) 2293174444
Called_Num (National) 911

-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Joe Carroll
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 6:52 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 911 via MAX TNT ??

Yes, we are using the max tnt to aggregate several PRIs both inbound and outbound from multiple carriers. This PRI is a normal two way circuit that a carrier would deliver to an end user...



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From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Jay R. Ashworth [jra at baylink.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:27 AM
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 911 via MAX TNT ??

On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 08:07:18PM -0400, Andrew Kohlsmith (lists) wrote:
Quote:
On June 4, 2008 06:20:57 pm Joe Carroll wrote:
Quote:
Interestingly enough, on the syslog messages from the TNT we are seeing
"Called = 911, Q850 Cause = 28, SIP Response = 484"
That really looks like the switch that the TNT is talking to is rejecting the
number, not the TNT...

Remember: "9-1-1" is a *dialling pattern*, not a *directory number*;
it's entirely possible that trunks wouldn't accept it directly.

This *is* a *LEC* trunk, right?

Cheers,
-- jra
--
Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra at baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100
Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24
St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:27 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] 911 via MAX TNT ?? Reply with quote

Alex.. would you point us in the right direction, or perhaps consider sending a sample max tnt config reflecting how this is done? Thank you.. -Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Alex Balashov
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 3:11 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 911 via MAX TNT ??

I believe the ISDN call plan can be configured as part of the trunk
group / route.

Joe Carroll wrote:
Quote:
We talked with the LEC and discovered that 911 has to be sent as Unknown instead of National... Anyone know how we might tell the TNT to do this? Apparently, according to the carrier, all Special Access Numbers, 411, 611, 911, etc require this special code ???

PRI DEBUG FOLLOWS:


<--nt SETUP CRV=14997 (Orig) Prot=Q931 12:51:47.260 06-06-08
Bearer_Cap 80 90 A2 (Speech,Rate=64K)
Channel_Id A1 83 83 (Pref,Intf=0,Chan=3)
Calling_Num (National,Restricted,Failed) 2293174444
Called_Num (National) 911

-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Joe Carroll
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 6:52 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 911 via MAX TNT ??

Yes, we are using the max tnt to aggregate several PRIs both inbound and outbound from multiple carriers. This PRI is a normal two way circuit that a carrier would deliver to an end user...



________________________________________
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Jay R. Ashworth [jra at baylink.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:27 AM
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 911 via MAX TNT ??

On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 08:07:18PM -0400, Andrew Kohlsmith (lists) wrote:
Quote:
On June 4, 2008 06:20:57 pm Joe Carroll wrote:
Quote:
Interestingly enough, on the syslog messages from the TNT we are seeing
"Called = 911, Q850 Cause = 28, SIP Response = 484"
That really looks like the switch that the TNT is talking to is rejecting the
number, not the TNT...

Remember: "9-1-1" is a *dialling pattern*, not a *directory number*;
it's entirely possible that trunks wouldn't accept it directly.

This *is* a *LEC* trunk, right?

Cheers,
-- jra
--
Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra at baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100
Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24
St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274

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