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gordon+asterisk at dro...
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:37 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Eric Fort wrote:

Quote:

I'm presently working on provisioning VoIP to a traditional key system. I
have a single SIP DID inbound that gives me a maximum of 2 concurrent
channels. I need an ATA that will ring the second station port when the
first is in use. What devices will do this with a single sip registration
with the provider?

Er, Asterisk will do this with a TDM400 card or clone.

Expensive ATA though Smile

But maybe an AVM Fritz! box will work for you too...

Gordon

spamsucks2005 at gmail...
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:52 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Gordon Henderson
<gordon+asterisk at drogon.net> wrote:

Quote:

But maybe an AVM Fritz! box will work for you too...

Would anyone care to recommend a good quality, stable ATA these days
for just a single cordless phone connected to one SIP provider. Sipura
used to be well thought-of. Are they still the best?

/r

gordon+asterisk at dro...
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:32 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, randulo wrote:

Quote:

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Gordon Henderson
<gordon+asterisk at drogon.net> wrote:

Quote:

But maybe an AVM Fritz! box will work for you too...

Would anyone care to recommend a good quality, stable ATA these days
for just a single cordless phone connected to one SIP provider. Sipura
used to be well thought-of. Are they still the best?

This might depends on your country (re. availability), but I've had a lot
of good results with the Siemens DECT range... (eg. S450IP) The
base-station has a built in ATA, so 2 sockets, one PSTN, one Ethernet...

Although if you already have a DECT phone, then who knows - I've used
Grandstreams and they're OK, bu seem a bit "laggy" on answering - ie.
pickup, then nothing for a second...

Gordon

rob at hillis.dyndns.org
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:52 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

IMO, yes - sort of. Smile

Since Linksys bought Sipura, you're probably
looking at the Linksys PAP2 - the functional equivalent of the Sipura
SPA-2000. They look different (better if you ask me - the LEDs are far
better placed and more useful than they were on the Sipura units) but
are pretty much identical under the hood.
randulo wrote:

Quote:

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Gordon Henderson
<gordon+asterisk at drogon.net> wrote:

Quote:

But maybe an AVM Fritz! box will work for you too...

Would anyone care to recommend a good quality, stable ATA these days
for just a single cordless phone connected to one SIP provider. Sipura
used to be well thought-of. Are they still the best?

/r

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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

I like Grandstream 286s.... No, seriously....

Thanks,
Steve T

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Eric Fort <eric.fort at gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

Can the PAP2 be set up such that a second call will ring the second line
when the first is busy but only register once with the SIP provider? A beep
tone on the same line to denote another incoming call just will not do, The
second port needs to act like a seperate line tied to the same DID in a hunt
group.

Eric

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:52 AM, Rob Hillis <rob at hillis.dyndns.org> wrote:

Quote:

IMO, yes - sort of. Smile

Quote:

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Gordon Henderson
<gordon+asterisk at drogon.net> wrote:

Quote:

But maybe an AVM Fritz! box will work for you too...

spamsucks2005 at gmail...
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:51 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Gordon Henderson
<gordon+asterisk at drogon.net> wrote:

Quote:

No question, the Siemens DECT SIP phones are great, I do have one, the
S675IP, and I love it. I even wrote a (basic non tech) review of it
and here's a photo of the "RSS screensaver" http://x2z.eu/h click on
photo if you want to read the review. I love this phone, biut iot's
too expensive for the other location where I just want a SIP ATA to
connect to an existing cordless. I will take a look at the Linksys
though, sounds interesting.

stotaro at totarotechn...
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:52 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

Buy two......

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Eric Fort <eric.fort at gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

and being only a single line device how exactly would I get 2 lines out of
it?

Eric

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:

Quote:

I like Grandstream 286s.... No, seriously....

Thanks,
Steve T

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Eric Fort <eric.fort at gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

Can the PAP2 be set up such that a second call will ring the second line
when the first is busy but only register once with the SIP provider? A
beep
tone on the same line to denote another incoming call just will not do,
The
second port needs to act like a seperate line tied to the same DID in a
hunt
group.

Eric

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:52 AM, Rob Hillis <rob at hillis.dyndns.org>
wrote:

Quote:

IMO, yes - sort of. Smile

Quote:

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Gordon Henderson
<gordon+asterisk at drogon.net> wrote:

Quote:

But maybe an AVM Fritz! box will work for you too...

Would anyone care to recommend a good quality, stable ATA these days
for just a single cordless phone connected to one SIP provider.
Sipura
used to be well thought-of. Are they still the best?

/r

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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:56 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:51 PM, randulo <spamsucks2005 at gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Gordon Henderson
<gordon+asterisk at drogon.net> wrote:

Quote:

DECT can make you and others around you feel very ill. No long term
research exists but if immediate effects are feeling ill, it may
possibly lead to long term effects.

I know a consultant that could barely finish a DECT install because
his head hurt so badly.

http://www.healthy-house.co.uk/news/2008/01/14/Have-you-or-your-neighbours-got-a-DECT-phone---Benefit-from-our-special-offer-and-test-your-home.php

Maybe not the best source to quote but I trust anyone interested can
google further.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

fred at teamforrest.com
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

Quote:

and being only a single line device how exactly would I get 2 lines
out of it?

Eric

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Steve Totaro <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com

Quote:

wrote:

I like Grandstream 286s.... No, seriously....

Thanks,
Steve T

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Eric Fort <eric.fort at gmail.com>
wrote:

Quote:

Can the PAP2 be set up such that a second call will ring the

second line

Quote:

when the first is busy but only register once with the SIP

provider? A beep

Quote:

tone on the same line to denote another incoming call just will

not do, The

Quote:

second port needs to act like a seperate line tied to the same DID

in a hunt

Quote:

group.

Eric

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:52 AM, Rob Hillis

<rob at hillis.dyndns.org> wrote:

Quote:

IMO, yes - sort of. Smile

Since Linksys bought Sipura, you're

probably

Quote:

looking at the Linksys PAP2 - the functional equivalent of the

Sipura

Quote:

SPA-2000. They look different (better if you ask me - the LEDs

are far

Quote:

better placed and more useful than they were on the Sipura units)

but

Quote:

are pretty much identical under the hood.

randulo wrote:

Quote:

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Gordon Henderson
<gordon+asterisk at drogon.net> wrote:

Quote:

But maybe an AVM Fritz! box will work for you too...

Would anyone care to recommend a good quality, stable ATA these

days

Quote:

for just a single cordless phone connected to one SIP provider.

Sipura

Quote:

used to be well thought-of. Are they still the best?

/r

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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:06 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:56 PM, Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:

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DECT can make you and others around you feel very ill. No long term
research exists but if immediate effects are feeling ill, it may
possibly lead to long term effects.

That may or may not be true, but if we go down that road, then I know
people who claim being anywhere within blocks of a cellphone tower or
in a building with wifi has ruined their lives. There is a movement (I
think in the UK) to remove and disallow wifi on all universuty
premises because a few people have said they are electrosensitive. If
this is anything like peanut allergies, it's no joke for those
afflicted, but before I rip out our DECT phone, I'll need to find a
compelling reason.

stotaro at totarotechn...
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:07 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

I use them for analog Polycom Soundstation EXes and other analog
conference phones. Great quality and that is in boardrooms where
complaints would fly if there was even one little issue.

I generally don't mess with Grandstream but the ATAs aren't bad.

Thanks,
Steve T

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Fred Posner <fred at teamforrest.com> wrote:

Quote:

They're real cheap where you could get 2 of them. I got one and actually
have no complaints. Call quality was really good and it's very, very small
and portable. Looks cheap, but you get over that. I have a SPA2102 2 liner
which works fine but gets really hot.

Fred Posner
www.teamforrest.com
FWD#: 902963

On Jun 17, 2008, at 3:46 PM, Eric Fort wrote:

and being only a single line device how exactly would I get 2 lines out of
it?

Eric

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:

Quote:

I like Grandstream 286s.... No, seriously....

Thanks,
Steve T

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Eric Fort <eric.fort at gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

Can the PAP2 be set up such that a second call will ring the second line
when the first is busy but only register once with the SIP provider? A
beep
tone on the same line to denote another incoming call just will not do,
The
second port needs to act like a seperate line tied to the same DID in a
hunt
group.

Eric

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:52 AM, Rob Hillis <rob at hillis.dyndns.org>
wrote:

Quote:

IMO, yes - sort of. Smile

Quote:

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Gordon Henderson
<gordon+asterisk at drogon.net> wrote:

Quote:

But maybe an AVM Fritz! box will work for you too...

Would anyone care to recommend a good quality, stable ATA these days
for just a single cordless phone connected to one SIP provider.
Sipura
used to be well thought-of. Are they still the best?

/r

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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:11 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:06 PM, randulo <spamsucks2005 at gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:56 PM, Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:

Quote:

DECT can make you and others around you feel very ill. No long term
research exists but if immediate effects are feeling ill, it may
possibly lead to long term effects.

A compelling reason to me would be if someone near me felt ill, I
switched off the DECT (quietly) and then they felt better, then
switched it back on and see if they complain again, if not I would ask
"How are you feeling?" If ill, that would be compelling enough to me.
Maybe repeat a few times for consistency.

No complaints, then no problem....

Thanks,
Steve T

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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:35 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:

Quote:

Agreed. I tried to get oneighbor, who finally moved because of all the
waves around our bldg, to do a test with me where I'd shut off the
wifi and see if she could feel any difference,, but she never made it
over. Certainly if anyone felt ill coming in, it would be something to
look at. For now, though I've seen no convincing evidence on power
lines, wifi, dect or cellphones. We won't maybe know for another 10
years or so when people start dropping like flies.

stotaro at totarotechn...
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:41 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 4:35 AM, randulo <spamsucks2005 at gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:

Quote:

I have not really heard of people having immediate ill feelings from
power lines, cell phones, wifi....

I have heard many people (and even a good friend of mine and the
Asterisk community) feel ill immediately when around active DECT.

I am not lumping them together as you seem to imply.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

benny+usenet at amorse...
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:07 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

"Steve Totaro" <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> writes:

Quote:

I have heard many people (and even a good friend of mine and the
Asterisk community) feel ill immediately when around active DECT.

He can make a lot of money if he can demonstrate that.
/Benny

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