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spamsucks2005 at gmail...
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 Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:20 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this? |
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Hi,
I'm interested in finding someone who has used this product. The
documentation mentions its use "with" asterisk, not sure what that
even means. This may not be of interest to the list, so feel free to
email me if you are at all familiar with this product.
tia,
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spamsucks2005 at gmail...
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:12 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this? |
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On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 7:31 PM, EdPimentl <edpimentl at gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | They have been around for over 8 years, and their HQ is now in France...
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As is mine! But does anyone know anything about this other than their own docs?
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c.savinovich at itntel...
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:01 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this? |
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I do. I spent about a month doing contract work for a company that
provides pbx hosting. Their hosting is based on Centile. What do you want
to know?... they had about 80 customers (virtual pbxs), 320 ip phones... it
seemed to be running ok. I could have done the same thing with asterisk 
CS
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[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of randulo
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 3:12 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this?
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 7:31 PM, EdPimentl <edpimentl at gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | They have been around for over 8 years, and their HQ is now in France...
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As is mine! But does anyone know anything about this other than their own
docs?
r
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spamsucks2005 at gmail...
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this? |
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On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 10:01 PM, C. Savinovich
<c.savinovich at itntelecom.com> wrote:
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seemed to be running ok. I could have done the same thing with asterisk
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Basically, I was really curious why a company would use this instead
of asterisk. Apparently, as I said, there is a reference in the docs,
something like "if you use asterisk on the same machine (or maybe
network), ..." I understand why people use SER, but wanted to know
about this. When you google centile there's little info.
I couldn't sleep, woke up in the middle of the night,, I think I may
have solved the problem I was having but I can't test the solution
until it's a decent hour (now=4AM). The problem was totally idiotic. I
had left a phone on another site and it was registering to the same
account as a phone on this site. I believe the way Centile deals with
NAT may be part of why it's different from asterisk.
Thanks for your comments,
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c.savinovich at itntel...
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:58 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this? |
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To be fair, Centile is better geared than asterisk for virtual pbx
hosting. It comes with a system to manage virtual pbxs... it also handles
the provisioning of most ip phones adequately, it is a totally different pbx
although linux based. Although I don't know the details of your setup, it
would not surprise me to see Centile accepting 2 different phones with the
same extension on the same pbx.
CS
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of randulo
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 9:58 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this?
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 10:01 PM, C. Savinovich
<c.savinovich at itntelecom.com> wrote:
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seemed to be running ok. I could have done the same thing with asterisk
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Basically, I was really curious why a company would use this instead
of asterisk. Apparently, as I said, there is a reference in the docs,
something like "if you use asterisk on the same machine (or maybe
network), ..." I understand why people use SER, but wanted to know
about this. When you google centile there's little info.
I couldn't sleep, woke up in the middle of the night,, I think I may
have solved the problem I was having but I can't test the solution
until it's a decent hour (now=4AM). The problem was totally idiotic. I
had left a phone on another site and it was registering to the same
account as a phone on this site. I believe the way Centile deals with
NAT may be part of why it's different from asterisk.
Thanks for your comments,
/r
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spamsucks2005 at gmail...
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:28 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this? |
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On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 5:58 AM, C. Savinovich
<c.savinovich at itntelecom.com> wrote:
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To be fair, Centile is better geared than asterisk for virtual pbx
hosting. It comes with a system to manage virtual pbxs... it also handles
the provisioning of most ip phones adequately, it is a totally different pbx
although linux based.
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Interesting. Yes, it has a few phones it knows how to provision. I am
using "generic SIP device" for both the phones currently in use.
| Quote: | Although I don't know the details of your setup, it
would not surprise me to see Centile accepting 2 different phones with the
same extension on the same pbx.
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Well, my 4AM brainstorm didn't help. The phone I'm having trouble with
is my favorite one, a Siemens S675IP. It is registered and works
perfectly with 5 other SIP providers. On the Centile pbx, it can make
calls but it can not be called. The web admin interface shows the
correct public and NAT ip addresses and shows the phone "in service".
Calling it from another phone rings once and then goes to congestion,
or at least that's the signal I hear. (It's wierd not being able to
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c.savinovich at itntel...
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:22 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this? |
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Of course you can ssh. And you can trace whats going on at 3 different
levels. You can also open a trouble ticket with them.
CS
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[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of randulo
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 2:29 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this?
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 5:58 AM, C. Savinovich
<c.savinovich at itntelecom.com> wrote:
| Quote: |
To be fair, Centile is better geared than asterisk for virtual pbx
hosting. It comes with a system to manage virtual pbxs... it also handles
the provisioning of most ip phones adequately, it is a totally different
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pbx
| Quote: | although linux based.
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Interesting. Yes, it has a few phones it knows how to provision. I am
using "generic SIP device" for both the phones currently in use.
| Quote: | Although I don't know the details of your setup, it
would not surprise me to see Centile accepting 2 different phones with the
same extension on the same pbx.
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Well, my 4AM brainstorm didn't help. The phone I'm having trouble with
is my favorite one, a Siemens S675IP. It is registered and works
perfectly with 5 other SIP providers. On the Centile pbx, it can make
calls but it can not be called. The web admin interface shows the
correct public and NAT ip addresses and shows the phone "in service".
Calling it from another phone rings once and then goes to congestion,
or at least that's the signal I hear. (It's wierd not being able to
ssh in and see what's happening.)
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mgraves at mstvp.com
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:50 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this? |
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On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:28:35 +0200, randulo wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 5:58 AM, C. Savinovich
<c.savinovich at itntelecom.com> wrote:
| Quote: |
To be fair, Centile is better geared than asterisk for virtual pbx
hosting. It comes with a system to manage virtual pbxs... it also handles
the provisioning of most ip phones adequately, it is a totally different pbx
although linux based.
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Interesting. Yes, it has a few phones it knows how to provision. I am
using "generic SIP device" for both the phones currently in use.
| Quote: | Although I don't know the details of your setup, it
would not surprise me to see Centile accepting 2 different phones with the
same extension on the same pbx.
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Well, my 4AM brainstorm didn't help. The phone I'm having trouble with
is my favorite one, a Siemens S675IP. It is registered and works
perfectly with 5 other SIP providers. On the Centile pbx, it can make
calls but it can not be called. The web admin interface shows the
correct public and NAT ip addresses and shows the phone "in service".
Calling it from another phone rings once and then goes to congestion,
or at least that's the signal I hear. (It's wierd not being able to
ssh in and see what's happening.)
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Randy,
This is exactly what was happening when I used an Aastra 480i CT with
OnSIP. According to OnSIP it's not a supported phone, although the
newer 57i CT does work with OnSIP.
It seemed that the phone was losing registration with the provider. I
was not able to overcome this in the phone or provider settings.
My ultimate solution was to build a small Asterisk instance (Astlinux)
on a thin client (HP T5700) and use it strickly as a bridge device for
the phone. For whatever reason, the Astlinux box could sustain the
registration and pass the incomming calls to the phone.
This is very similar to another idea that I once had but never actually
implemented. That is, using a small embedded Asterisk device as a
SIP<>IAX2 protocol translator to facilitate complex NAT traversal. I
thought that Astlinux on Gumstix hardware would be ideal for such a
task.
Michael
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spamsucks2005 at gmail...
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:23 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this? |
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On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:22 PM, C. Savinovich
<c.savinovich at itntelecom.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Of course you can ssh. And you can trace whats going on at 3 different
levels. You can also open a trouble ticket with them.
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No, I don't have the auth to ssh, but in the end it was a config error
on my end. The fact that they patiently worked through this (there was
a ticket, I just like to get more input from experienced people) and
that they got it running confirms I made the right choice of people to
work with. Great service and mea culpa, I am not worthy. I really
wondered why a phone would work with every other provider and asterisk
1.2 and not on this thing.
thx again for the input. |
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spamsucks2005 at gmail...
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:35 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this? |
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On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Michael Graves <mgraves at mstvp.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Randy,
This is exactly what was happening when I used an Aastra 480i CT with
OnSIP. According to OnSIP it's not a supported phone, although the
newer 57i CT does work with OnSIP.
It seemed that the phone was losing registration with the provider. I
was not able to overcome this in the phone or provider settings.
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Hi Michael,
I'm writing you privately for a reason you will immediately
understand. In a moment of frustration, I set up the AA50 asterisk
appliance, thinking, hey, I can have the best of all possible worlds
here, including all my dialplans and kludges and still benefit from
the centrex. Because I only have a single DSL at the moment, I messed
with this but didn't get it running completely. I'm pretty sure it
will work if I want to go that way, once the AA50 is acting as a
router and not behind one.
However, eason the Siemens wasn't accepting calls is simpler than I thought:
I had "accept calls" unchecked for that provider on both handsets!!!
I guess I must have done this while testing another phone on the same
account parameters.
D'oh!
So you saw that JR Richardson is talking anbout scaling on the
conference Friday. I decided to do one after all, from the office at
the usual time.
Also, got a guest post in voipsupply blog. You're next!
Best,
Randy |
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spamsucks2005 at gmail...
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:37 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this? |
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On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Michael Graves <mgraves at mstvp.com> wrote:
| Quote: | This is very similar to another idea that I once had but never actually
implemented. That is, using a small embedded Asterisk device as a
SIP<>IAX2 protocol translator to facilitate complex NAT traversal. I
thought that Astlinux on Gumstix hardware would be ideal for such a
task.
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Interesting thought, that. Use an embedded asterisk to act as a
"concentrator" on the NAT side. Why not?
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spamsucks2005 at gmail...
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:32 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Centile ipbx, anyone heard of this? |
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Nothing that embarrassing,just didn't want to mention the even more OT
stuff. Everyone already knows I do not too bright things like turning
a phone off and then complaining it doesn't work
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy
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| Quote: | Private messagind:)
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