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spamsucks2005 at gmail...
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 Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Spoofing CID |
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On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Robert Goodyear <rob.goodyear at gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | So who out there is aware of the FCC or FTC laws concerning spoofing caller
ID for deceptive purposes? There's a collection agency out there who has my
wife's name crossed with someone else's, and they are picking numbers from
our area code to present themselves as when calling us (over and over and
over.) I of course would like to turn this around on them as they refuse to
believe who we say we are.
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That sucks!
Here's an older article about this seemingly common practice:
http://www.securityfocus.com/news/9822 |
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tilghman at mail.jeffa...
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:23 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Spoofing CID |
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On Thursday 03 July 2008 15:54:36 Alexander Lopez wrote:
| Quote: | Neither DHS nor FTC has any legislation on this. Florida house had a
bill. Unfortunately, Collection agencies are deceptive by nature as most
other options have been exhausted before an account goes to collections.
I get the same thing here; they once even called me from a number that
had my same last name!!
There is one Alex Lopez (NOT ME!!!!) here in Miami that owes a lot of
people a lot of money. I get calls at all times of the day and night,
they forge the number, and so what do they care about following the FTC
rules!!!!
I feel your pain. I may create an IVR Hell for them, so that I can
transfer the calls to, Hey, Its their dime.
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A registered letter, with return receipt is the best way to deal with these
clowns. If that doesn't work, your only alternative is to file a lawsuit.
There are some good online resources for this. Filing a lawsuit is actually
fairly inexpensive, but when you compare that to the expense they incur
simply to have a lawyer show up in court, unless this guy owes thousands
of dollars (enough to make it worth their while in court), they will do
everything in their power to avoid getting into that scenario.
Collection efforts are all about making you feel badly enough that you cave
in to their demands. Making them spend money to collect money is exactly
the opposite of what they want to do, and thus it's the most effective way to
get them to back down.
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Tilghman |
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Alex.Lopez at OpSys.com
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:54 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Spoofing CID |
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| Quote: | On Thursday 03 July 2008 15:54:36 Alexander Lopez wrote:
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| Quote: | | Quote: | There is one Alex Lopez (NOT ME!!!!) here in Miami that owes a lot
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| Quote: | | Quote: | people a lot of money. I get calls at all times of the day and
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night,
| Quote: | | Quote: | they forge the number, and so what do they care about following the
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FTC
| Quote: | | Quote: | rules!!!!
I feel your pain. I may create an IVR Hell for them, so that I can
transfer the calls to, Hey, Its their dime.
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A registered letter, with return receipt is the best way to deal with
these
clowns. If that doesn't work, your only alternative is to file a
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lawsuit.
| Quote: | There are some good online resources for this. Filing a lawsuit is
actually
fairly inexpensive, but when you compare that to the expense they
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incur
| Quote: | simply to have a lawyer show up in court, unless this guy owes
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thousands
| Quote: | of dollars (enough to make it worth their while in court), they will
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do
| Quote: | everything in their power to avoid getting into that scenario.
Collection efforts are all about making you feel badly enough that you
cave
in to their demands. Making them spend money to collect money is
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exactly
| Quote: | the opposite of what they want to do, and thus it's the most effective
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way
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get them to back down.
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Tilghman
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I stay quit most of the time and let them provide the sensitive data. I
never give them my Social but I will confirm that they have the wrong
one.
Problem with a certified letter is that they hang up before you can get
that info from them.
Another problem with this is that some calls may actually be phishing.
Fishing is big in Florida, but it seams that phishing is big all over
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sherwood.mcgowan at gm...
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abalashov at evaristes...
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:45 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Spoofing CID |
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Alexander Lopez wrote:
| Quote: | I may create an IVR Hell for them, so that I can transfer the calls to,
Hey, Its their dime.
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If you do end up going that route, please share the details, and
possibly the code. We could all benefit from a good IVR from hell. I
certainly could use one.
No, I'm not being sarcastic.
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Alex Balashov
Evariste Systems
Web : http://www.evaristesys.com/
Tel : (+1) (678) 954-0670
Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671
Mobile : (+1) (706) 338-8599 |
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fred at teamforrest.com
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:00 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Spoofing CID |
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On Jul 3, 2008, at 10:45 PM, Alex Balashov wrote:
| Quote: | Alexander Lopez wrote:
| Quote: | I may create an IVR Hell for them, so that I can transfer the calls
to,
Hey, Its their dime.
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If you do end up going that route, please share the details, and
possibly the code. We could all benefit from a good IVR from hell. I
certainly could use one.
No, I'm not being sarcastic.
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I tried an IVR once before but they hang up immediately... instead I
have a recorded message of me saying "Hello" then a wait 5 sec... and
then an "I'm sorry, ... yatta yatta yatta if youuse real number I'll
take your call."
I use a blacklist script to add numbers to and record the call. During
that 5 sec wait they normally talk, so it provides me some sense of
amusement (sadly).
Fred Posner
fred at teamforrest.com
www.teamforrest.com
FWD#: 902963
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