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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:00 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] FreeSWITCH VPSs Reply with quote

My goal is obviously not to provide carrier grade VOIP switch service,
but a platform for sandbox testing of configurations, SOHO VOIP
Switches, development of FS addons, backup switch capability, etc.
Doing this stuff at home behind NAT and a consumer grade router is one
reason Brian, Anthony, Mike, et al. are half crazy. I run my
company's phone switch in a 32 bit OpenVZ VE with 256 Mb ram, and have
no issues. When I goof around trying to transcode between 8 and 16
bit codecs and whatnot, sure it gets tight, but FS on an idle system
keeps 23 mb of of ram resident, and rarely if ever hits a 256 mb bean
counter (limit).

Also, these limits are not hard, I just know what my hardware has, and
am trying to offer as much value as I can for what I have in the
systems. 128 Gb of ECC ram and Quad/Quad Core zeons are still pretty
pricey!

Nik




On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:
Quote:
Actually you can if you don't overload the machine like most VPS
providers do... The advantage with OpenVZ in this case is that you can
migrate the running FreeSWITCH instance between hardware nodes and not
drop calls at this size.

/b

On Feb 11, 2009, at 6:24 PM, EdPimentl wrote:

Quote:
Soho,,, yes of course...
Voip (soho)Service Provider.... not convinced is possible to provide
reliable QoS.
My .02 cents
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:48 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] FreeSWITCH VPSs Reply with quote

Brian:

I am also running my freeswitch on my own openVZ containers. Just how do you verify if the freeswitch is compiled as 64bit? I would assume if I compile it under a 64bit container, I would automatically get a 64bit freeswitch right?

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Nik Martin <freeswitch@servercorps.com (freeswitch@servercorps.com)> wrote:
Quote:
If any one needs a FreeSWITCH box with a public, static IP, I can
provide them for you at a reasonable cost. I'm building a
Virtualization platform for FreeSWITCH hosting, and have the first
node complete. These are OpenVZ Virtual Engines with Centos 5.2, a
full build environment, and the latest FreeSWITCH trunk. You get 1
static IP, no NAT, 256 mb ram, and 8 gb disk space, with 1 Megabit of
bandwidth. Great for VOIP service providers, backup switch, testing,
etc. You can contact me directly if you are interested.

Nik

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:56 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] FreeSWITCH VPSs Reply with quote

ding ding ding .. yep!

"file /usr/local/freeswitch/bin/freeswitch" will also confirm

/b

On Feb 11, 2009, at 6:37 PM, Henry Huang wrote:

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Brian:

I am also running my freeswitch on my own openVZ containers. Just
how do you verify if the freeswitch is compiled as 64bit? I would
assume if I compile it under a 64bit container, I would
automatically get a 64bit freeswitch right?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:49 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] FreeSWITCH VPSs Reply with quote

cool,

However.... you say...

"but a platform for sandbox testing of configurations, SOHO VOIP
Switches, development of FS addons, backup switch capability, etc.
Doing this stuff at home behind NAT and a consumer grade router is one
reason Brian, Anthony, Mike, et al. are half crazy. "

First of all, you have no idea on what platform and where we do our development.
If you only saw how many terminals to random servers spanning the globe we have open......
You have the NAT part right, if you knew the hours it took from behind NAT to get all the code right for SIP interop or even had to deal with half the bullshit it takes to get SIP working, you'd be in the madhouse so don't you dare try using us as an ad slogan.

Secondly, we are not half crazy, we are completely crazy and most of it comes from spending all day
on this list tending to your never-ending threads while trying to help the other people in the community who actually give something back.

If you want to use our list to advertise this service maybe you should find a way to contribute to the project rather than constantly asking for help in 5 separate emails in one day followed by another thread trying to sell something.

A reasonable cost would be FREE just like everything else around here.


On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Nik Martin <freeswitch@servercorps.com (freeswitch@servercorps.com)> wrote:
Quote:
My goal is obviously not to provide carrier grade VOIP switch service,
but a platform for sandbox testing of configurations, SOHO VOIP
Switches, development of FS addons, backup switch capability, etc.
Doing this stuff at home behind NAT and a consumer grade router is one
reason Brian, Anthony, Mike, et al. are half crazy. I run my
company's phone switch in a 32 bit OpenVZ VE with 256 Mb ram, and have
no issues. When I goof around trying to transcode between 8 and 16
bit codecs and whatnot, sure it gets tight, but FS on an idle system
keeps 23 mb of of ram resident, and rarely if ever hits a 256 mb bean
counter (limit).

Also, these limits are not hard, I just know what my hardware has, and
am trying to offer as much value as I can for what I have in the
systems. 128 Gb of ECC ram and Quad/Quad Core zeons are still pretty
pricey!

Nik





On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org (brian@freeswitch.org)> wrote:
Quote:
Actually you can if you don't overload the machine like most VPS
providers do... The advantage with OpenVZ in this case is that you can
migrate the running FreeSWITCH instance between hardware nodes and not
drop calls at this size.

/b

On Feb 11, 2009, at 6:24 PM, EdPimentl wrote:

Quote:
Soho,,, yes of course...
Voip (soho)Service Provider.... not convinced is possible to provide
reliable QoS.
My .02 cents
-E


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:02 am    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] FreeSWITCH VPSs Reply with quote

Hello Brian / Everyone,

Like Nik and Nicolas, I created a openvz box to test things in a 'near
production' environment. The box does only take 'test' calls, ie it
never saw more that a few calls at a time.

The design was 100% openser/opensips/kamailio but I since replaced the
pstn gateways with FS and it has been working perfectly and I am not
looking back.

I am now planning to use freeswitch as the registrar/voicemail/media
servers to only keep openser as a proxy inbound proxy (as it is
possible to program it to assign a RTP proxies topologically near the
caller and you can use it to fix some really broken sip packets - like
LLU operators cheap DSL routers badly NAT fixing the contact header).

Following this thread I am wondering if I should/could expect some
issues with my setup which is 32 bits or if your comments are only
related to the performance/behaviour of FS once under load (in which
case I need not to worry).

voip-master:~# uname -a
Linux voip-master 2.6.18-ovz-028stab053.5-smp #1 SMP Sat Mar 1
12:19:31 CET 2008 i686 GNU/Linux

voip-master:~# vzlist
VEID NPROC STATUS IP_ADDR HOSTNAME
1001 24 running A.B.C.A proxy1.sip (openser phone
outbound proxy - accept REGISTER - range locked)
1002 24 running A.B.C.B in1.sip (openser incoming
calls from the net - enum, no REGISTER - open)
1003 19 running A.B.C.C out1.sip (openser outgoing
calls to the net - enum - to be FS)
1004 4 running A.B.C.D rtp1.nat (rtpproxy nat)
1005 3 running A.B.C.E media1 (was sems for
voicemail/media)
1006 29 running A.B.C.F database1
1107 23 running A.B.C.G registrar1.sip (openser)
1108 26 running A.B.C.H registrar2.sip (FS)
1109 8 running A.B.C.I ns1(auth DNS for the tested
zone with ENUM info)
1110 8 running A.B.C.J internal1.cache (cache with
internal ENUM routing)
1111 8 running A.B.C.K external1.cache (normal DNS
cache)
1112 21 running A.B.C.L pstn-out-1 (FS gateway out
to pstn)
1113 21 running A.B.C.M pstn-in-1 (FS gateway in
from pstn)

voip-master:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model
model : 4
model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.00GHz
model : 4
model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.00GHz

voip-master:~# free -m
total used free shared buffers
cached
Mem: 2023 1902 120 0 431
1009
-/+ buffers/cache: 460 1562
Swap: 2588 3 2585

yep, memory is short :p)

Regards,

Thomas

On 11 Feb 2009, at 22:54, Brian West wrote:

Quote:
Your VE must be 64bit also.

http://wiki.openvz.org/Install_OpenVZ_on_a_x86_64_system_Centos-Fedora

If you need the set util listed on that page let me know I have a
copy of it.

/b

On Feb 11, 2009, at 4:47 PM, Nik Martin wrote:

Quote:
I think the VE I've built is too, but uname is a bit cryptic:
2.6.18-92.1.18.el5.028stab060.2 #1 SMP Tue Jan 13 11:38:36 MSK 2009
i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

I can easily change it if FS will run better.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:10 am    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] FreeSWITCH VPSs Reply with quote

I didn't mean to touch a nerve there, I think you mis-interpreted 100%
of my original post. You may also have me confused with some other
Nik, as I contribute as much or more than I request . There is a
nother Nik on here that are probably referring to. I am nikko from
#freeswitch. I have made many edits and contributions to the wiki,
patches and verified bug reports submitted to Jira.

See my other responses inline.




On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Anthony Minessale
<anthony.minessale@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
cool,

However.... you say...

"but a platform for sandbox testing of configurations, SOHO VOIP
Switches, development of FS addons, backup switch capability, etc.
Doing this stuff at home behind NAT and a consumer grade router is one
reason Brian, Anthony, Mike, et al. are half crazy. "

First of all, you have no idea on what platform and where we do our
development.
If you only saw how many terminals to random servers spanning the globe we
have open......
You have the NAT part right, if you knew the hours it took from behind NAT
to get all the code right for SIP interop or even had to deal with half the
bullshit it takes to get SIP working, you'd be in the madhouse so don't you
dare try using us as an ad slogan.

I was adressing all the support hours you and others waste trying to
help people get FS running on their home servers behind NAT, when they
should be testing in an environment that more closely matches what
their production one will be.

Quote:

Secondly, we are not half crazy, we are completely crazy and most of it
comes from spending all day
on this list tending to your never-ending threads while trying to help the
other people in the community who actually give something back.

If you want to use our list to advertise this service maybe you should find
a way to contribute to the project rather than constantly asking for help in
5 separate emails in one day followed by another thread trying to sell
something.

Sorry, you are mistaking me with another Nik. I'm nikko from
#freeswitch, and contribute PLENTY.

Quote:
A reasonable cost would be FREE just like everything else around here.
I'm just trying to cover costs, and suport a single NOC engineer, and
get more people to adopt FreeSWITCH. If people like Paige and others
that come and go had a reasonable environment to test and configure
in, they would not be saying crap like "this works in asterisk, blah
blah blah".


Again, sorry to have upset you, but we had an email conversation an
few days ago, and you and Brian were cool with my plans.


Quote:


On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Nik Martin <freeswitch@servercorps.com>
wrote:
Quote:

My goal is obviously not to provide carrier grade VOIP switch service,
but a platform for sandbox testing of configurations, SOHO VOIP
Switches, development of FS addons, backup switch capability, etc.
Doing this stuff at home behind NAT and a consumer grade router is one
reason Brian, Anthony, Mike, et al. are half crazy. I run my
company's phone switch in a 32 bit OpenVZ VE with 256 Mb ram, and have
no issues. When I goof around trying to transcode between 8 and 16
bit codecs and whatnot, sure it gets tight, but FS on an idle system
keeps 23 mb of of ram resident, and rarely if ever hits a 256 mb bean
counter (limit).

Also, these limits are not hard, I just know what my hardware has, and
am trying to offer as much value as I can for what I have in the
systems. 128 Gb of ECC ram and Quad/Quad Core zeons are still pretty
pricey!

Nik




On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:
Quote:
Actually you can if you don't overload the machine like most VPS
providers do... The advantage with OpenVZ in this case is that you can
migrate the running FreeSWITCH instance between hardware nodes and not
drop calls at this size.

/b

On Feb 11, 2009, at 6:24 PM, EdPimentl wrote:

Quote:
Soho,,, yes of course...
Voip (soho)Service Provider.... not convinced is possible to provide
reliable QoS.
My .02 cents
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:14 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] FreeSWITCH VPSs Reply with quote

I run /usr/local/freeswitch/bin/freeswitch
but I don't see a place where it says it's 32bit or 64bit.
at the end of the initial script, I do see a version statement though.
FreeSWITCH Version 1.0.trunk (exported) Started.
Is there other ways to check if it's 32bit or 64bit?
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org (brian@freeswitch.org)> wrote:
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ding ding ding .. yep!

"file /usr/local/freeswitch/bin/freeswitch" will also confirm

/b

On Feb 11, 2009, at 6:37 PM, Henry Huang wrote:

Quote:
Brian:

I am also running my freeswitch on my own openVZ containers. Just
how do you verify if the freeswitch is compiled as 64bit? I would
assume if I compile it under a 64bit container, I would
automatically get a 64bit freeswitch right?



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:25 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] FreeSWITCH VPSs Reply with quote

If you run in your shell:
file /usr/local/freeswitch/bin/freeswitch

as Brian suggested it will return something like what I got below:
/usr/local/freeswitch/bin/freeswitch: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped


He didn't want you to start freeswitch but instead pass the path of the binary to the file command which will tell information about most files.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:32 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] FreeSWITCH VPSs Reply with quote

Well when I do this:


root@taz [Thu Feb 12 02:20 PM] /usr/src/freeswitch.trunk
<13>:file /usr/local/freeswitch/bin/freeswitch
/usr/local/freeswitch/bin/freeswitch: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD
x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, dynamically linked
(uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not stripped


It should clearly tell you. run the "file" command on it.

/b



On Feb 12, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Henry Huang wrote:

Quote:
I run /usr/local/freeswitch/bin/freeswitch
but I don't see a place where it says it's 32bit or 64bit.
at the end of the initial script, I do see a version statement though.
FreeSWITCH Version 1.0.trunk (exported) Started.
Is there other ways to check if it's 32bit or 64bit?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:44 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] FreeSWITCH VPSs Reply with quote

Thinak you, William and Brian

I got it now, I didn't know file was a command before because it didn't come with my CentOS installation. Now I have installed the file package and able to see the file info.

Thanks again


On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org (brian@freeswitch.org)> wrote:
Quote:
Well when I do this:


root@taz [Thu Feb 12 02:20 PM] /usr/src/freeswitch.trunk
<13>:file /usr/local/freeswitch/bin/freeswitch
/usr/local/freeswitch/bin/freeswitch: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD
x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, dynamically linked
(uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not stripped


It should clearly tell you. run the "file" command on it.

/b



On Feb 12, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Henry Huang wrote:

Quote:
I run /usr/local/freeswitch/bin/freeswitch
but I don't see a place where it says it's 32bit or 64bit.
at the end of the initial script, I do see a version statement though.
FreeSWITCH Version 1.0.trunk (exported) Started.
Is there other ways to check if it's 32bit or 64bit?




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