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The wiki explains all that and allows all that, whats wrong with IRC?
Come and ask questions if you don't understand, you'll get your
answers quicker than complaining about the lack of forum.

Math

On 5-Mar-09, at 5:14 AM, J Mann/Harry wrote:

[gibbedhead at gmail.com]

No, I've yet to contribute anything, I barely have my system doing
what I want. But I REALLY love Freeswitch and I want to see it BURY
Asterisk. (Windows server user here)

I've been struggling with the XML configs, trying to figure out what
does what and where! That's fine, I'm used to it. What I'm NOT used to
is the total lack of a forum-based community to join and participate
in! Where can users SHARE their configs, help each other, learn from
each others mistakes? No DEV forum? I'm speechless.

Let's be serious guys, mailing lists went out in the 90s! IRC is "meh"
at best! I want stickies, a forum for noobs, converts, a dev forum...
So on...

"WELCOME To FreeSWITCH!"

Am I asking too much here? A FORUM?

I can't see how you can spark interest when we're so sorely lacking
the most basic and widely used community environments on the net!

HELP SOMEBODY? Install SMF ASAP!
http://www.simplemachines.org

BTW: I hate people who voice problems without offering viable
solutions in the process... Disgusting! So if someone can offer up a
simple hosting account, Control Panel 10, Windows Linux whatever...
I'll be more than happy to have SMF setup and receiving user
registrations within 24 hours! I've done it dozens of times before. I
will then gladly turn over the keys to the kingdom to the "powers that
be" and take a backseat, being simply a happy user from that point on!

Please folks, please. I'm dying over here and I'm sure I'm not alone!
I'm searching Google and finding nothing!! FORUMS!

Harry (email me here)
switchserver@gmail.com (my FS email)

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[krice at suspicious.org]

Not to mention there is a full archive of the mailing list on nabble

http://www.nabble.com/Freeswitch-users-f32209.html

[mike at jerris.com]

Much more than an archive, nabble makes a full embeddable forum that is
linked to the mailing list. We will be embedding this in our webpage soon
for the best of both worlds, a forum and a mailing list without the
additional overhead of having to monitor 2 things.

Mike


Ken Rice-3 wrote:

[damin at nacs.net]

I hate forums. Forums suck. They are a pain in the ass to search and find
things. I prefer the mailing list and the Wiki. Can we please keep it that
way? It is really easy to find stuff via Nabble and the Wiki.


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On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Michael Jerris <mike@jerris.com> wrote:

[BenHoltsclaw at averys...]

I agree with Harry. I do not like the mailing list. Those that do like the mailing list always advocate Nabble. For those that advocate that solution, do you even realize that you can't post on Nabble unless you are subscribed to the mailing list? I am also not a fan of IRC. Before I came upon FreeSWITCH, I hadn't used IRC in years! I think I uninstalled my IRC client at the same time I uninstalled my NNTP reader. Most of the time, I actually find it difficult to obtain support in the #freeswitch channel. Once you ask the question, if somebody doesn't happen to be there that knows the answer, then you're screwed. How many times have I asked a question only to wait 30 seconds and then see, "anthm has joined #freeswitch." Crap...do I ask the question again? I have found the conversation in #openzap to be much more focused. Thank goodness I'm using that module! In that channel, I never see conversations about cd burners, somebody's girlfriend in South America, or off color jokes about someone's sexual proclivity. And because I know I'll get flamed for saying that, just look at this: [23:10] <{tasker}> me, too, but i'm a different animal[23:10] <{tasker}> in NY and in Miami i went nutz[23:10] <diegoviola> lol[23:10] * jefferai is now known as lollerai[23:10] <diegoviola> yeah i love her[23:10] <{tasker}> latinas everywhere[23:11] * lanwifie (n=Sami@99-196-39-200.cust.wildblue.net ([email]n=Sami@99-196-39-200.cust.wildblue.net[/email])) has left #freeswitch[23:11] * jjg (n=jjg@76.21.4.40 ([email]n=jjg@76.21.4.40[/email])) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))[23:11] <hmmhesays> here its blond blue eyed girls[23:11] * lollerai is now known as lolferai[23:11] <rpm> brazilians... hopefully she's hot. i've seen some pretty dodgy looking chicks from there[23:11] <{tasker}> diego: go back, buy her a ticket and tell her, "yeaaaaaaaaah, it's just for a few days"[23:11] * martyn-dev (n=martyn-d@190.26.4.61 ([email]n=martyn-d@190.26.4.61[/email])) has joined #freeswitch[23:11] <{tasker}> blonde / blue eyes are overrated[23:11] <{tasker}> give me a latina any day[23:11] <hmmhesays> best thing around here though If I'm going into #freeswitch at 11pm at night, it's probably because I really need some help with some problem I've run into after hours. Can you imagine me injecting a question about a SIP profile into that conversation?? ALL that aside... I'm willing to use a carrier pigeon if that's the way the three primary developers wish to communicate. They have been instrumental in getting my project where it is today. You know the saying... beggars can't be choosers. Ben Holtsclaw Network EngineerAvery County SchoolsPh: 828.733.3567 x2301 >>> On 3/5/2009 at 5:14 AM, "J Mann/Harry" <gibbedhead@gmail.com> wrote: No, I've yet to contribute anything, I barely have my system doingwhat I want. But I REALLY love Freeswitch and I want to see it BURYAsterisk. (Windows server user here)I've been struggling with the XML configs, trying to figure out whatdoes what and where! That's fine, I'm used to it. What I'm NOT used tois the total lack of a forum-based community to join and participatein! Where can users SHARE their configs, help each other, learn fromeach others mistakes? No DEV forum? I'm speechless.Let's be serious guys, mailing lists went out in the 90s! IRC is "meh"at best! I want stickies, a forum for noobs, converts, a dev forum...So on..."WELCOME To FreeSWITCH!"Am I asking too much here? A FORUM?I can't see how you can spark interest when we're so sorely lackingthe most basic and widely used community environments on the net!HELP SOMEBODY? Install SMF ASAP!http://www.simplemachines.orgBTW: I hate people who voice problems without offering viablesolutions in the process... Disgusting! So if someone can offer up asimple hosting account, Control Panel 10, Windows Linux whatever...I'll be more than happy to have SMF setup and receiving userregistrations within 24 hours! I've done it dozens of times before. Iwill then gladly turn over the keys to the kingdom to the "powers thatbe" and take a backseat, being simply a happy user from that point on!Please folks, please. I'm dying over here and I'm sure I'm not alone!I'm searching Google and finding nothing!! FORUMS!Harry (email me here)switchserver@gmail.com (my FS email)_______________________________________________Freeswitch-users mailing listFreeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.orghttp://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-usersUNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-usershttp://www.freeswitch.org

[brian at freeswitch.org]

I have been trying to push all the social talk into #freeswitch-social to keep #freeswitch on topic.. sometimes after hours in the US it gets a bit off topic. I'm usually alive in the channel till around 11PM+ CST most days. I take questions and answer questions at all hours if I'm awake... I too am guilty of going off topic.

/b


On Mar 5, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Ben Holtsclaw wrote:

[mrene_lists at avgs.ca]

The bot even takes people's question and keeps them in list so when someone that knows shows up he can answer it, thats the ~take-a-number option...
On 5-Mar-09, at 12:16 PM, Brian West wrote:

[egghunt at gmail.com]

Besides #freeswitch-social and #openzap, there are other channels related to the project. List: http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Main_Page#Community_and_Support

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Mathieu Rene <mrene_lists@avgs.ca (mrene_lists@avgs.ca)> wrote:

[BenHoltsclaw at averys...]

The problem with take-a-number is what if I'm not there when someone can answer it?>>> On 3/5/2009 at 12:19 PM, Mathieu Rene <mrene_lists@avgs.ca> wrote: The bot even takes people's question and keeps them in list so when someone that knows shows up he can answer it, thats the ~take-a-number option... On 5-Mar-09, at 12:16 PM, Brian West wrote: I have been trying to push all the social talk into #freeswitch-social to keep #freeswitch on topic.. sometimes after hours in the US it gets a bit off topic. I'm usually alive in the channel till around 11PM+ CST most days. I take questions and answer questions at all hours if I'm awake... I too am guilty of going off topic. /b On Mar 5, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Ben Holtsclaw wrote: I agree with Harry. I do not like the mailing list. Those that do like the mailing list always advocate Nabble. For those that advocate that solution, do you even realize that you can't post on Nabble unless you are subscribed to the mailing list? I am also not a fan of IRC. Before I came upon FreeSWITCH, I hadn't used IRC in years! I think I uninstalled my IRC client at the same time I uninstalled my NNTP reader. Most of the time, I actually find it difficult to obtain support in the #freeswitch channel. Once you ask the question, if somebody doesn't happen to be there that knows the answer, then you're screwed. How many times have I asked a question only to wait 30 seconds and then see, "anthm has joined #freeswitch." Crap...do I ask the question again? I have found the conversation in #openzap to be much more focused. Thank goodness I'm using that module! In that channel, I never see conversations about cd burners, somebody's girlfriend in South America, or off color jokes about someone's sexual proclivity. And because I know I'll get flamed for saying that, just look at this: [23:10] <{tasker}> me, too, but i'm a different animal[23:10] <{tasker}> in NY and in Miami i went nutz[23:10] <diegoviola> lol[23:10] * jefferai is now known as lollerai[23:10] <diegoviola> yeah i love her[23:10] <{tasker}> latinas everywhere[23:11] * lanwifie (n=Sami@99-196-39-200.cust.wildblue.net ([email]n=Sami@99-196-39-200.cust.wildblue.net[/email])) has left #freeswitch[23:11] * jjg (n=jjg@76.21.4.40 ([email]n=jjg@76.21.4.40[/email])) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))[23:11] <hmmhesays> here its blond blue eyed girls[23:11] * lollerai is now known as lolferai[23:11] <rpm> brazilians... hopefully she's hot. i've seen some pretty dodgy looking chicks from there[23:11] <{tasker}> diego: go back, buy her a ticket and tell her, "yeaaaaaaaaah, it's just for a few days"[23:11] * martyn-dev (n=martyn-d@190.26.4.61 ([email]n=martyn-d@190.26.4.61[/email])) has joined #freeswitch[23:11] <{tasker}> blonde / blue eyes are overrated[23:11] <{tasker}> give me a latina any day[23:11] <hmmhesays> best thing around here though If I'm going into #freeswitch at 11pm at night, it's probably because I really need some help with some problem I've run into after hours. Can you imagine me injecting a question about a SIP profile into that conversation?? ALL that aside... I'm willing to use a carrier pigeon if that's the way the three primary developers wish to communicate. They have been instrumental in getting my project where it is today. You know the saying... beggars can't be choosers. Ben Holtsclaw Network EngineerAvery County SchoolsPh: 828.733.3567 x2301_______________________________________________Freeswitch-users mailing listFreeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org (Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org)http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-usersUNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-usershttp://www.freeswitch.org

[mike at jerris.com]

On Mar 5, 2009, at 12:03 PM, Ben Holtsclaw wrote:

[anthony.minessale at g...]

Ok,

SO? We should make a forum?

See this one?

http://www.voip-info.org/boards/index.php?b=6

Yah, that one has been around for many months and nobody maintains it.  We do have a link to it on our homepage but nobody reads it so, there is a dilemma here right?

IRC is for sure more useful of a resource between 9am and 6pm GMT-6 in the timezone where me and bkw live.  Any other times it would be up to other community members like the few who have been stepping up in a major way in the last few weeks, thank you all.

I don't know how good of a job we are doing, but we are a small group and we already spend most of every day managing a bug tracker, irc, and this list.  If you took a poll 8/10 people hate forums.  I don't really know if i like them or not, I have enjoyed finding forums before that discussed something that happened ages ago that relates to a problem I have and being able to skim months into the future reading the end results, but more times than not they go south and contain a bunch of flaming back and forth about midway through.

We already need voulenteers to help manage the resources we already have, Website, Mailing list, JIRA.  If we introduce more we, run the risk of doing a bad job at maintaining them.  Is anyone willing to help? 

If you can use nabble to post as long as you have an account on the mailing list, can't you just disable mail dilevery and use the nabble exclusively?
If not is there another solution?  I really need some help in this department to even consider introducing any more community resources.






On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org (brian@freeswitch.org)> wrote:

[brian at freeswitch.org]

Well you can always shoot an email to the mailing list... or wait for
someone that can answer it.. which reminds me we really need people to
volunteer to help out on the IRC channel so we have skilled people
able to answer questions 24/7, I personally cover 12-16 hours a day
most of the time. Even weekends! I was even up at 4am today and
answered a few.

/b

On Mar 5, 2009, at 11:27 AM, Ben Holtsclaw wrote:

[egghunt at gmail.com]

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org (brian@freeswitch.org)> wrote: