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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:56 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] live iso image with freeswitch Reply with quote

You sure could to get around some oppression! Razz

/b

On Mar 30, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Giovanni Maruzzelli wrote:

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no one would do that!


On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Kristian Kielhofner
<kristian.kielhofner@gmail.com> wrote:
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Are you saying they should configure SIP TLS to run on port 443? Smile

2009/3/30 Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org>:
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Really hard to inspect packets when they run on port 443 and are
encrypted
Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:02 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] live iso image with freeswitch Reply with quote

Even better run OpenVPN on port 53 Razz

/b

On Mar 30, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
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Are you saying they should configure SIP TLS to run on port 443? Smile

2009/3/30 Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org (brian@freeswitch.org)>:
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Really hard to inspect packets when they run on port 443 and are encrypted
Razz
/b


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:04 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] live iso image with freeswitch Reply with quote

no one would do that!


On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Kristian Kielhofner
<kristian.kielhofner@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Are you saying they should configure SIP TLS to run on port 443? Smile

2009/3/30 Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org>:
Quote:
Really hard to inspect packets when they run on port 443 and are encrypted
Razz
/b

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:05 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] live iso image with freeswitch Reply with quote

yeah, obviously they'd have to enable TLS, but my question is more in
terms of trying to use the mainstream providers outside the country,
particularly for call termination/origination, which don't support TLS.

~Gabe

Brian West wrote:
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Really hard to inspect packets when they run on port 443 and are
encrypted Razz

/b

On Mar 30, 2009, at 1:31 PM, Gabriel Kuri wrote:

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eh, how are poeple doing VoIP over there, given use of it outside the
UAE is "officially" outlawed by the TRA ? I've heard Etisalat is pretty
strict with making sure it's blocked going outside the country via a L7
packet inspection device to drop SIP.

~Gabe

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:15 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] live iso image with freeswitch Reply with quote

Wink

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:
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You sure could to get around some oppression! Razz

/b

On Mar 30, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Giovanni Maruzzelli wrote:

Quote:
no one would do that!


On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Kristian Kielhofner
<kristian.kielhofner@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Are you saying they should configure SIP TLS to run on port 443? Smile

2009/3/30 Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org>:
Quote:
Really hard to inspect packets when they run on port 443 and are
encrypted
Razz
/b

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:07 am    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] live iso image with freeswitch Reply with quote

hi,

i think this thread has got a bit too much of attention but in all
directions, bytheway sorry for that double posting but i think its something
to do with nabble as i get a mail saying ur post is rejected so i resend and
then i find both the posts get accepted.
UAE is very strict in terms of allowing VoIP, they block skype and any sort
of voip available but come to see it, they use all the latest gadgets to
block advanced stuff but its basic stuff that bypasses it thats y guys like
me end up selling voip and any1 dealing in UAE will only tell u one thing,
its a million dollar market for voip.
simple technic to bypass is, use any port other than the standard SIP ports
and in the SIP packet, if the header says SIP or something like that, change
it to SI_P or S_IP or whatever u like as the header and ur through the
block. known methods to bypass r openvpn but they find out and simply block
the port, XOR or CBCOM as said by grandstream, voipswitch's voiptunnel and
just about anything that doesnt say anything about SIP or RTP in the packet
header or description or whatever it may be.

bytheway that astlinux is for embedded systems etc right? i have a ALIX
board already running pfsense, im looking for a normal linux image for a
workstation but just enough tools to run freeswitch, have the gnome or K
desktop environment and later on when the web GUI is developed then simply
the web GUI.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:38 am    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] live iso image with freeswitch Reply with quote

Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:
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This isn't a buffet where you pull up and demand things be one way or the
other... this is a community where you start helping. I would love to
see more helping and less demanding!

So would I.

I regularly scan the mailing list looking for questions to answer, but many of
them relate to scenarios of which I have had no experience, or features that I
haven't had any reason to use.

I am worried that the questions are answered by the same people much of the
time, which in the long run will be bad for the project as the community
grows, i.e., more technical support work for the same people (who are mostly
the core developers as well) is not a sustainable proposition.

How do other large projects handle this?

Does anyone have any positive suggestions to offer that would encourage more
contributions?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:16 am    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] live iso image with freeswitch Reply with quote

I am a Yate user and I can tell their mailing list suffer the same problem. My solution? I often ask for help but, as a personal policy, I always write an article or add to an existing one on the project wiki explaining and documenting what people explained to me. This creates a triple value: 
  1.   I have stuff explained 
  2.   other people can find this explanation just googling around 
  3.   I don't have to mantain a separate documentation for myself, I just keep referring to (google and) the project wiki (when I don't exactly remember things I sometimes end reading the wiki and saying "oh, I wrote this!")

I suggest, in the end, a kind of "ok I'll give you help but you write this stuff in a piece of documentation" policy. I got the name, too: "The Wiki Tax" Wink



Regards,
   Raffaele

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 09:28, Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net (jason@jasonjgw.net)> wrote:
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Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org (brian@freeswitch.org)> wrote:
Quote:
This isn't a buffet where you pull up and demand things be one way or the
other... this is a community where you start helping.  I would love to
see more helping and less demanding!


So would I.

I regularly scan the mailing list looking for questions to answer, but many of
them relate to scenarios of which I have had no experience, or features that I
haven't had any reason to use.

I am worried that the questions are answered by the same people much of the
time, which in the long run will be bad for the project as the community
grows, i.e., more technical support work for the same people (who are mostly
the core developers as well) is not a sustainable proposition.

How do other large projects handle this?

Does anyone have any positive suggestions to offer that would encourage more
contributions?



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:33 am    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] live iso image with freeswitch Reply with quote

2009/3/31 Raffaele P. Guidi <raffaele.p.guidi@gmail.com (raffaele.p.guidi@gmail.com)>
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I am a Yate user and I can tell their mailing list suffer the same problem. My solution? I often ask for help but, as a personal policy, I always write an article or add to an existing one on the project wiki explaining and documenting what people explained to me. This creates a triple value: 
  1.   I have stuff explained 
  2.   other people can find this explanation just googling around 
  3.   I don't have to mantain a separate documentation for myself, I just keep referring to (google and) the project wiki (when I don't exactly remember things I sometimes end reading the wiki and saying "oh, I wrote this!")

I suggest, in the end, a kind of "ok I'll give you help but you write this stuff in a piece of documentation" policy. I got the name, too: "The Wiki Tax" Wink




I like it... "The Wiki Tax"
-MC
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