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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:38 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] CDR loss possibility if FS freezes? Reply with quote

Hi

Can somebody tell if FS freezes/crashes due to any reason. Does it logs both log of each call before dying?

If we run it on large scale like 2-3k calls , a simple crash can cost a lot if it dies silently. One more aspect is , after freezing it will no more send/rec packets to any endpoint ,may result in inaccurate logging on endpoint.  It should somehow send BYE ?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:45 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] CDR loss possibility if FS freezes? Reply with quote

No the goal is to NOT crash in the first place. Are you experiencing a crash? If so http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Reporting_Bugs is how you would report it.


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On Jun 25, 2009, at 7:34 PM, Muhammad Danish Moosa wrote:
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Hi

Can somebody tell if FS freezes/crashes due to any reason. Does it logs both log of each call before dying?

If we run it on large scale like 2-3k calls , a simple crash can cost a lot if it dies silently. One more aspect is , after freezing it will no more send/rec packets to any endpoint ,may result in inaccurate logging on endpoint. It should somehow send BYE ?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:18 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] CDR loss possibility if FS freezes? Reply with quote

Well this isn’t specific to FS crashing. The machine losing power would have the same effect, no?

-Michael

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Hi

Can somebody tell if FS freezes/crashes due to any reason. Does it logs both log of each call before dying?

If we run it on large scale like 2-3k calls , a simple crash can cost a lot if it dies silently. One more aspect is , after freezing it will no more send/rec packets to any endpoint ,may result in inaccurate logging on endpoint. It should somehow send BYE ?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:11 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] CDR loss possibility if FS freezes? Reply with quote

true dat... but again our goal is to not crash in the first place Razz... nice APC can take care of the no power thing.

/b

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Well this isn’t specific to FS crashing. The machine losing power would have the same effect, no?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:35 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] CDR loss possibility if FS freezes? Reply with quote

In case of bad battery in APC, are cdr's logged prior to system failure?

On Thursday, June 25, 2009, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:
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true dat... but again our goal is to not crash in the first place Razz... nice APC can take care of the no power thing.
/b
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Well this isn’t specific to FS crashing. The machine losing power would have the same effect, no? -Michael
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:43 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] CDR loss possibility if FS freezes? Reply with quote

You could use something like nibble bill and at most loose the last
interval of the call before its billed. You're going thru a lot of
what if's ... You can't account for everything and you shouldn't have
all your eggs in the same basket.



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In case of bad battery in APC, are cdr's logged prior to system
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:43 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] CDR loss possibility if FS freezes? Reply with quote

Of course not. This is why many do billing in icrements like
mod_nibblebill does. Radius (although not yet with our module) and
diamater both work this way and solve this issue. This in combination
with session timers adress this and the hangup issue during a
catastophic switch or network failure.

On Jun 25, 2009, at 11:32 PM, Shannon <shannon@sacredhearts.us> wrote:

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In case of bad battery in APC, are cdr's logged prior to system
failure?

On Thursday, June 25, 2009, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:
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true dat... but again our goal is to not crash in the first
place Razz... nice APC can take care of the no power thing.
/b
On Jun 25, 2009, at 8:16 PM, Michael Giagnocavo wrote:
Well this isnft specific to FS crashing. The machine losing power
would have the same effect, no? -Michael
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:49 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] CDR loss possibility if FS freezes? Reply with quote

Just make sure the power is always there! ...I know that some parts of the world this is not easy to achieve.
 
Harmeet 

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:32 PM, Shannon <shannon@sacredhearts.us (shannon@sacredhearts.us)> wrote:
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In case of bad battery in APC, are cdr's logged prior to system failure?

On Thursday, June 25, 2009, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org (brian@freeswitch.org)> wrote:
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true dat... but again our goal is to not crash in the first place Razz... nice APC can take care of the no power thing.
/b
On Jun 25, 2009, at 8:16 PM, Michael Giagnocavo wrote:
Well this isn’t specific to FS crashing. The machine losing power would have the same effect, no? -Michael
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:53 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] CDR loss possibility if FS freezes? Reply with quote

Does nibblebill update balances in real-time for each and every call? Does it do every second (micro/nano second?). How does it affect the performance vs if its done at end of call? I know that is not desirable for calling card applications.
 
Harmeet


On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org (brian@freeswitch.org)> wrote:
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You could use something like nibble bill and at most loose the last
interval of the call before its billed.  You're going thru a lot of
what if's ...  You can't account for everything and you shouldn't have
all your eggs in the same basket.



/b

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:57 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] CDR loss possibility if FS freezes? Reply with quote

Well you would do it every 20-60 seconds maybe... It would be silly to
do it every micro/nano second... it would cost you more in cpu and you
don't gain much.

/b

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Does nibblebill update balances in real-time for each and every
call? Does it do every second (micro/nano second?). How does it
affect the performance vs if its done at end of call? I know that is
not desirable for calling card applications.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:57 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] CDR loss possibility if FS freezes? Reply with quote

Is solar an option? Wink

/b

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Just make sure the power is always there! ...I know that some parts
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:07 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] CDR loss possibility if FS freezes? Reply with quote

Can the interval be easily configures based on the destination? Like small interval for destinations with cost per minute > $1.00 and large intervals for cheaper destinations?
 
Harmeet


On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:56 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org (brian@freeswitch.org)> wrote:
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Well you would do it every 20-60 seconds maybe... It would be silly to
do it every micro/nano second... it would cost you more in cpu and you
don't gain much.

/b

On Jun 25, 2009, at 10:53 PM, Harmeet Singh wrote:

Quote:
Does nibblebill update balances in real-time for each and every
call? Does it do every second (micro/nano second?). How does it
affect the performance vs if its done at end of call? I know that is
not desirable for calling card applications.

Harmeet




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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:07 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] CDR loss possibility if FS freezes? Reply with quote

clouds

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Is solar an option? Wink

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Just make sure the power is always there! ...I know that some parts
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:12 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] CDR loss possibility if FS freezes? Reply with quote

yes you could. why not check it out and set it up ... its rather
powerful.

/b

On Jun 25, 2009, at 11:06 PM, Harmeet Singh wrote:

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Can the interval be easily configures based on the destination? Like
small interval for destinations with cost per minute > $1.00 and
large intervals for cheaper destinations?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:12 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] CDR loss possibility if FS freezes? Reply with quote

I also forgot about Nights.

/b

On Jun 25, 2009, at 11:07 PM, SP wrote:
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clouds

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Is solar an option? Wink

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