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 Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:19 am Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Is there any license G729? |
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On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Edmar Cruz <darklion11@yahoo.com (darklion11@yahoo.com)> wrote:
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Yup. I got this mid_dahdi_codec but instructions how to install it?
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Buy TC400B
Install it and the TC400B drivers
Load mod_dahdi_codec
Enjoy low quality G729 calls. 
-MC
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brian at freeswitch.org
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:20 am Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Is there any license G729? |
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Everyone has this need for lower bandwidth calls... I tend to march the other way. 48kHz baby! (btw you can do 48kHz in the same bandwidth as a single ulaw call)
/b
On Jun 29, 2009, at 10:17 AM, Michael Collins wrote:
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On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Edmar Cruz <darklion11@yahoo.com (darklion11@yahoo.com)> wrote:
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Yup. I got this mid_dahdi_codec but instructions how to install it?
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Buy TC400B
Install it and the TC400B drivers
Load mod_dahdi_codec
Enjoy low quality G729 calls.
-MC
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william.suffill at gma...
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:44 am Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Is there any license G729? |
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You always have a way of beating to a different drum but whatever works.
Good to see that the options are available and the user can choose what's best for their unique situation.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:05 am Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Is there any license G729? |
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Hi,
I just noted Micheal Collins mention "Enjoy lower quality G.729
calls". By "lower quality" do you mean G.729 in TC400B is lower in
quality compared to software compression? Or is that comparing G.729
with G.711?
Regards
HASSAN
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 10:42 PM, William
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:17 am Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Is there any license G729? |
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Nyamul Hassan wrote:
| Quote: | Hi,
I just noted Micheal Collins mention "Enjoy lower quality G.729
calls". By "lower quality" do you mean G.729 in TC400B is lower in
quality compared to software compression? Or is that comparing G.729
with G.711?
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I think he is just saddened by the way people tolerant crappy quality,
and how slow the takeup of wideband voice has been.
The TC400B doesn't do G.729. It does G.729A, which is significantly
lower in quality. However, G.729A is what almost all equipment that
vaguely says G.729 actually implements. Its lousy, but few people care.
The TC400B works as well or as badly as anything else.
Steve
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:54 am Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Is there any license G729? |
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On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org (steveu@coppice.org)> wrote:
| Quote: | Nyamul Hassan wrote:
| Quote: | Hi,
I just noted Micheal Collins mention "Enjoy lower quality G.729
calls". By "lower quality" do you mean G.729 in TC400B is lower in
quality compared to software compression? Or is that comparing G.729
with G.711?
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I think he is just saddened by the way people tolerant crappy quality,
and how slow the takeup of wideband voice has been.
The TC400B doesn't do G.729. It does G.729A, which is significantly
lower in quality. However, G.729A is what almost all equipment that
vaguely says G.729 actually implements. Its lousy, but few people care.
The TC400B works as well or as badly as anything else.
Steve
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Well said! Like Steve has pointed out in the past: G729/G729A is a race to the bottom. After using WB and UWB codecs all day every day for the past 6 months I just can't live with G729 or even GSM for that matter. However, to each his own.
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mnhassan at usa.net
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:56 am Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Is there any license G729? |
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For wholesale termination setups, I think it makes it much more
cost-effective to implement G.729 or even G.723. They can never be
the same quality as G.711, but it saves bandwidth by multiple whole
numbers, and is therefore, more sought after in markets where BW is
expensive.
One a side note, we were thinking of deploying a FS solution for our
new retail platform. We are looking for a vendor who can provide a
very good billing platform. Can you recommend me some? We are
willing to pay for the service, but would rather go with an opensource
project that provides paid support.
Thank you in advance for your suggestions.
Regards
HASSAN
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Steve Underwood<steveu@coppice.org> wrote:
| Quote: | Nyamul Hassan wrote:
| Quote: | Hi,
I just noted Micheal Collins mention "Enjoy lower quality G.729
calls". By "lower quality" do you mean G.729 in TC400B is lower in
quality compared to software compression? Or is that comparing G.729
with G.711?
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I think he is just saddened by the way people tolerant crappy quality,
and how slow the takeup of wideband voice has been.
The TC400B doesn't do G.729. It does G.729A, which is significantly
lower in quality. However, G.729A is what almost all equipment that
vaguely says G.729 actually implements. Its lousy, but few people care.
The TC400B works as well or as badly as anything else.
Steve
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:08 pm Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Is there any license G729? |
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Cellphones have really lowered everyones expectations of what quality
is. I think if each of us in the US could stab our Cellphone
providers in the neck and get away with it.. I know I would... YES
AT&T I'm talking about your sorry excuse for service....
/b
On Jun 29, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Michael Collins wrote:
| Quote: | Well said! Like Steve has pointed out in the past: G729/G729A is a
race to the bottom. After using WB and UWB codecs all day every day
for the past 6 months I just can't live with G729 or even GSM for
that matter. However, to each his own.
-MC
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:18 pm Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Is there any license G729? |
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Brian West wrote:
| Quote: | Cellphones have really lowered everyones expectations of what quality
is. I think if each of us in the US could stab our Cellphone
providers in the neck and get away with it.. I know I would... YES
AT&T I'm talking about your sorry excuse for service....
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The 3G cellular standards have wideband features (that's what AMR-WB was
developed for), but few (maybe no) operators enable them. I assume all
UMTS phones actually support wideband, but unless the network is
prepared to accept negotiation for it, phone support isn't much use. The
networks would rather push proven flops like video calls.
Steve
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:25 pm Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Is there any license G729? |
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Video calls would be great if any network would actually SUPPORT IT!
(speaking US only)
/b
On Jun 29, 2009, at 12:11 PM, Steve Underwood wrote:
| Quote: | The 3G cellular standards have wideband features (that's what AMR-WB
was
developed for), but few (maybe no) operators enable them. I assume all
UMTS phones actually support wideband, but unless the network is
prepared to accept negotiation for it, phone support isn't much use.
The
networks would rather push proven flops like video calls.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:37 pm Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Is there any license G729? |
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Video calls are a really really bad idea. People who think otherwise
really haven't thought about it at all. They are available here, and
people desperately don't want them to be.
Brian West wrote:
| Quote: | Video calls would be great if any network would actually SUPPORT IT!
(speaking US only)
/b
On Jun 29, 2009, at 12:11 PM, Steve Underwood wrote:
| Quote: | The 3G cellular standards have wideband features (that's what AMR-WB
was
developed for), but few (maybe no) operators enable them. I assume all
UMTS phones actually support wideband, but unless the network is
prepared to accept negotiation for it, phone support isn't much use.
The
networks would rather push proven flops like video calls.
Steve
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:37 pm Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Is there any license G729? |
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Cuz its harder to lie to your wife! 
/b
On Jun 29, 2009, at 12:31 PM, Steve Underwood wrote:
| Quote: | Video calls are a really really bad idea. People who think otherwise
really haven't thought about it at all. They are available here, and
people desperately don't want them to be.
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