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 Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:50 pm Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Is there any license G729? |
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Brian West wrote:
| Quote: | Cuz its harder to lie to your wife! 
/b
On Jun 29, 2009, at 12:31 PM, Steve Underwood wrote:
| Quote: | Video calls are a really really bad idea. People who think otherwise
really haven't thought about it at all. They are available here, and
people desperately don't want them to be.
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Now you're thinking 
Steve
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:19 pm Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Is there any license G729? |
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On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 01:31 +0800, Steve Underwood wrote:
| Quote: | Video calls are a really really bad idea. People who think otherwise
really haven't thought about it at all. They are available here, and
people desperately don't want them to be.
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Video calls between 3G phones have been available in the UK for some
years. I've only ever made two using one of these to real people, both
across a table in a pub to show them what it looked like; I have made
goodness knows how many to an IVR while trying to pick 3G-324M apart.
However, there are some instances where they're very useful. For
example, my family is geographically quite dispersed, and we use Skype
with video a lot - particularly for grandparents to keep up with
grandchildren. The usefulness and appropriateness of video calling
depends very much on the target market; it's not, of itself, a bad
thing.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:21 pm Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Is there any license G729? |
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Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:
| Quote: | Everyone has this need for lower bandwidth calls... I tend to march the
other way. 48kHz baby! (btw you can do 48kHz in the same bandwidth as a
single ulaw call)
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48khz Celt (celt@48000 in your codec preferences) sounds wonderful with
FreeSWITCH. To test, run two FreeSWITCH instances, both with mod_portaudio.
This also works well in 48khz conferences.
I wouldn't use G.729 even if it weren't encumbered by patents - it's G.711,
G.722, G.722.1 and (my current favourite) Celt all the way.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:14 pm Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Is there any license G729? |
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Mike, but what UA are you using? I'm using X-lite and Zoiper on Mac/
Linux/Windows, and I'd like to know some UAs supporting WB and UWB
codecs.
Thanks.
| Quote: | Well said! Like Steve has pointed out in the past: G729/G729A is a
race to the bottom. After using WB and UWB codecs all day every day
for the past 6 months I just can't live with G729 or even GSM for
that matter. However, to each his own.
-MC
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:19 pm Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Is there any license G729? |
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FreeSWITCH runs on a Mac and can be configured as a UA... also supports WB and UWB!
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 20:13, seven <dujinfang@gmail.com (dujinfang@gmail.com)> wrote:
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brian at freeswitch.org
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:32 pm Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Is there any license G729? |
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Its perfect for you isn't it... I rather love it too!  Simple...
easy to use... and no fancy GUI to mess up...
/b
On Jun 29, 2009, at 8:28 PM, Jason White wrote:
| Quote: | Correct. It's especially good for those of us who prefer to avoid
WIMP user
interfaces.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:38 pm Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Is there any license G729? |
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Please give me some free drivers of G729... Please
David Knell wrote:
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On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 01:31 +0800, Steve Underwood wrote:
| Quote: | Video calls are a really really bad idea. People who think otherwise
really haven't thought about it at all. They are available here, and
people desperately don't want them to be.
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Video calls between 3G phones have been available in the UK for some
years. I've only ever made two using one of these to real people, both
across a table in a pub to show them what it looked like; I have made
goodness knows how many to an IVR while trying to pick 3G-324M apart.
However, there are some instances where they're very useful. For
example, my family is geographically quite dispersed, and we use Skype
with video a lot - particularly for grandparents to keep up with
grandchildren. The usefulness and appropriateness of video calling
depends very much on the target market; it's not, of itself, a bad
thing.
--Dave
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diego.viola at gmail.com
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:28 pm Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Is there any license G729? |
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Look for this email:
"[Freeswitch-users] Announcement: Howler-optimised G.729A Solution for FreeSWITCH"
I think the development team is also about to offer G729 licensing if I'm not mistaken.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:18 am Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Is there any license G729? |
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On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Edmar Cruz <darklion11@yahoo.com (darklion11@yahoo.com)> wrote:
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Please give me some free drivers of G729... Please
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This is the primary reason that most OSS guys hate G729 - it's patent encumbered BIG TIME. Check out this article on the main FS site:
http://www.freeswitch.org/node/155
look at the patent claims on G729. G729A is even worse. Add to that the fact that the voice quality is poor and you have a recipe for a codec that telecom geeks don't really care for all that much.
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jay.fenton at howlerte...
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:31 am Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Is there any license G729? |
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Hi Edmar,
| Quote: | I need actually G729 license if there's any for freeswitch to call
mobile
phones... I already load it but has an issue on it passthrough
mode... If i
install mod_dandhi_codec it overwrites the existing G729 without
license to
a new G729 with license?
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Are you sure your mobile phones support G729? Most phones have hardware
acceleration for AMR-NB and not G729, so most of the VoIP-over-WiFi
providers use that codec instead. I believe G729 would have to be
implemented in software only (without hardware assistance) and would
drain the battery fairly quickly as a result.
As other have pointed out on the list, and just in case you missed it
mod_dahdi_codec is for use with a PCI accelerator card (the TC400B)
that Digium (http://www.digium.com/) sell and will not work without
it. With that card you can get up to 120 concurrent G729A-G711 calls.
These days you can get much better performance from pure software
codecs running on Intel/AMD systems than using the above card. We
(Howler) happen to have announced a G729A codec for FreeSWITCH a
few days ago - you can get more info here:
http://www.howlertech.com/products/howlets/
Hope that helps.
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Howler Technologies Ltd, 11 Charlotte Mews, London, W1T 4EQ
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