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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:39 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Hello, and stuff. Reply with quote

As a background, I ran an asterisk consulting company for about 3 years that I gave up on 2 years ago after repeatedly failing to achieve any sort of stability on any sort install over about 30 phones, I gave up.

Maybe that was wrong, I am open to the possibility that I just didn't know enough and I was building things wrong, but I worked inside the asterisk code (which I feel is a hopeless mess), I implemented a few small custom features, anyway...

I'm coming back into the VoIP space now, and I'm wondering what sort of issues can I expect in trying to pick up and learn freeswitch? From what I've read on the website, it appears to have a much more sane architecture. I've used Cisco, Broadsoft, and asterisk in the past. By far the least stable and worst general call quality was asterisk. I constantly contended with strange call quality issues in asterisk, lots of echo (even with hardware echo cancellation cards), lots of jitter, lots of call break up (even on small systems with 10-20 users, using QoS on the network, and in general doing everything I could to prioritize voice over anything else).

When I used Cisco call manager and broadsoft, the voice quality issues were basically non-existant, as long as the network was running QoS echo, stutter, calls breaking up, just didn't happen. So, I guess my question is, does freeswitch show a marked improvement over asterisk in this department? As long as you configure QoS and have hardware echo cancellation does it actually work reliably?

Thanks for any additional information about freeswitch you can provide as well. I am a software developer primarily by trade, but I do lots of consulting type work in the SME space and I've had a couple projects thrown to me that require some integration with a phone system, and I just can't in good conscience recommend asterisk anymore.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:59 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Hello, and stuff. Reply with quote

Hi Tom,

best is to try it for yourself, you cannot expect from the FS mailing
list an answer like: "you know, fs is nor a marked improvement on
anything, we just like to spend time together" Smile

-gm


On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Christensen Tom<paveraware@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
As a background, I ran an asterisk consulting company for about 3 years that
I gave up on 2 years ago after repeatedly failing to achieve any sort of
stability on any sort install over about 30 phones, I gave up.

Maybe that was wrong, I am open to the possibility that I just didn't know
enough and I was building things wrong, but I worked inside the asterisk
code (which I feel is a hopeless mess), I implemented a few small custom
features, anyway...

I'm coming back into the VoIP space now, and I'm wondering what sort of
issues can I expect in trying to pick up and learn freeswitch?  From what
I've read on the website, it appears to have a much more sane architecture.
I've used Cisco, Broadsoft, and asterisk in the past.  By far the least
stable and worst general call quality was asterisk.  I constantly contended
with strange call quality issues in asterisk, lots of echo (even with
hardware echo cancellation cards), lots of jitter, lots of call break up
(even on small systems with 10-20 users, using QoS on the network, and in
general doing everything I could to prioritize voice over anything else).

When I used Cisco call manager and broadsoft, the voice quality issues were
basically non-existant, as long as the network was running QoS echo,
stutter, calls breaking up, just didn't happen.  So, I guess my question is,
does freeswitch show a marked improvement over asterisk in this department?
As long as you configure QoS and have hardware echo cancellation does it
actually work reliably?

Thanks for any additional information about freeswitch you can provide as
well.  I am a software developer primarily by trade, but I do lots of
consulting type work in the SME space and I've had a couple projects thrown
to me that require some integration with a phone system, and I just can't in
good conscience recommend asterisk anymore.


-Tom

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:59 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Hello, and stuff. Reply with quote

Tom,
Welcome! Sadly, your experience is not unique...

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Christensen Tom <paveraware@hotmail.com (paveraware@hotmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
As a background, I ran an asterisk consulting company for about 3 years that I gave up on 2 years ago after repeatedly failing to achieve any sort of stability on any sort install over about 30 phones, I gave up.

The consensus I've seen is that the larger the install, the more likely one is to have inexplicable issues.

Quote:


Maybe that was wrong, I am open to the possibility that I just didn't know enough and I was building things wrong, but I worked inside the asterisk code (which I feel is a hopeless mess), I implemented a few small custom features, anyway...

Any software that openly admits that a function is "pure nastiness" but doesn't change it from version 1.0, 1.2, 1.4, or 1.6 has questionable leadership IMHO. (grep the Asterisk source tree for "nastiness" and you'll see it.)

Quote:


I'm coming back into the VoIP space now, and I'm wondering what sort of issues can I expect in trying to pick up and learn freeswitch?  From what I've read on the website, it appears to have a much more sane architecture.  I've used Cisco, Broadsoft, and asterisk in the past.  By far the least stable and worst general call quality was asterisk.  I constantly contended with strange call quality issues in asterisk, lots of echo (even with hardware echo cancellation cards), lots of jitter, lots of call break up (even on small systems with 10-20 users, using QoS on the network, and in general doing everything I could to prioritize voice over anything else).


Again, your experience isn't unique...

Quote:

When I used Cisco call manager and broadsoft, the voice quality issues were basically non-existant, as long as the network was running QoS echo, stutter, calls breaking up, just didn't happen.  So, I guess my question is, does freeswitch show a marked improvement over asterisk in this department?  As long as you configure QoS and have hardware echo cancellation does it actually work reliably?


We receive lots of reports that FreeSWITCH is a vast improvement over not only Asterisk but proprietary solutions as well. The FS architecture is, as you mentioned, not insane. It is well thought out and therefore highly flexible, extensible, and scalable. I'm not aware of anything - OSS or proprietary - that can match FS in these three areas.

Quote:

Thanks for any additional information about freeswitch you can provide as well.  I am a software developer primarily by trade, but I do lots of consulting type work in the SME space and I've had a couple projects thrown to me that require some integration with a phone system, and I just can't in good conscience recommend asterisk anymore.


Are you comfortable with the lack of a super slick GUI? Smile Some GUIs are in development but the power users are quite happy with doing the emacs (or vim) shuffle with the XML config files. Furthermore, the ways that FS allows you to connect and control are fantastic: mod_xml_curl for dynamic configurations, event-socket for external control (think of it like AMI not sucking and being turbo-charged), mod_xml_rpc for RPC goodness... Anyway, the list is impressive.

I can honestly say that every week we get new people looking at FreeSWITCH and saying, "Wow, this is incredible." I can definitely, in good conscience, recommend you investigate FS more deeply. I'm confident you'll be happy with the return on your investment.

Hope it all works out for you! Join us in #freeswitch on irc.freenode.net if you want to chat in real-time.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:10 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Hello, and stuff. Reply with quote

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Giovanni Maruzzelli <gmaruzz@celliax.org (gmaruzz@celliax.org)> wrote:
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Hi Tom,

best is to try it for yourself, you cannot expect from the FS mailing
list an answer like: "you know, fs is nor a marked improvement on
anything, we just like to spend time together" Smile

Although, in reality, some of us do actually enjoy spending time together. Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:16 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Hello, and stuff. Reply with quote

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Michael Collins<msc@freeswitch.org> wrote:
Quote:


On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Giovanni Maruzzelli <gmaruzz@celliax.org>
wrote:
Quote:

Hi Tom,

best is to try it for yourself, you cannot expect from the FS mailing
list an answer like: "you know, fs is nor a marked improvement on
anything, we just like to spend time together" Smile

Although, in reality, some of us do actually enjoy spending time together.
Razz
-MC

meh too! Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:25 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Hello, and stuff. Reply with quote

http://www.freeswitch.org/node/117

That's essentially the story of why I wrote FS.


On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Michael Collins <msc@freeswitch.org (msc@freeswitch.org)> wrote:
Quote:
Tom,
Welcome! Sadly, your experience is not unique...

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Christensen Tom <paveraware@hotmail.com (paveraware@hotmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
As a background, I ran an asterisk consulting company for about 3 years that I gave up on 2 years ago after repeatedly failing to achieve any sort of stability on any sort install over about 30 phones, I gave up.


The consensus I've seen is that the larger the install, the more likely one is to have inexplicable issues.

Quote:


Maybe that was wrong, I am open to the possibility that I just didn't know enough and I was building things wrong, but I worked inside the asterisk code (which I feel is a hopeless mess), I implemented a few small custom features, anyway...


Any software that openly admits that a function is "pure nastiness" but doesn't change it from version 1.0, 1.2, 1.4, or 1.6 has questionable leadership IMHO. (grep the Asterisk source tree for "nastiness" and you'll see it.)

Quote:


I'm coming back into the VoIP space now, and I'm wondering what sort of issues can I expect in trying to pick up and learn freeswitch?  From what I've read on the website, it appears to have a much more sane architecture.  I've used Cisco, Broadsoft, and asterisk in the past.  By far the least stable and worst general call quality was asterisk.  I constantly contended with strange call quality issues in asterisk, lots of echo (even with hardware echo cancellation cards), lots of jitter, lots of call break up (even on small systems with 10-20 users, using QoS on the network, and in general doing everything I could to prioritize voice over anything else).



Again, your experience isn't unique...

Quote:

When I used Cisco call manager and broadsoft, the voice quality issues were basically non-existant, as long as the network was running QoS echo, stutter, calls breaking up, just didn't happen.  So, I guess my question is, does freeswitch show a marked improvement over asterisk in this department?  As long as you configure QoS and have hardware echo cancellation does it actually work reliably?



We receive lots of reports that FreeSWITCH is a vast improvement over not only Asterisk but proprietary solutions as well. The FS architecture is, as you mentioned, not insane. It is well thought out and therefore highly flexible, extensible, and scalable. I'm not aware of anything - OSS or proprietary - that can match FS in these three areas.

Quote:

Thanks for any additional information about freeswitch you can provide as well.  I am a software developer primarily by trade, but I do lots of consulting type work in the SME space and I've had a couple projects thrown to me that require some integration with a phone system, and I just can't in good conscience recommend asterisk anymore.



Are you comfortable with the lack of a super slick GUI? Smile Some GUIs are in development but the power users are quite happy with doing the emacs (or vim) shuffle with the XML config files. Furthermore, the ways that FS allows you to connect and control are fantastic: mod_xml_curl for dynamic configurations, event-socket for external control (think of it like AMI not sucking and being turbo-charged), mod_xml_rpc for RPC goodness... Anyway, the list is impressive.

I can honestly say that every week we get new people looking at FreeSWITCH and saying, "Wow, this is incredible." I can definitely, in good conscience, recommend you investigate FS more deeply. I'm confident you'll be happy with the return on your investment.

Hope it all works out for you! Join us in #freeswitch on irc.freenode.net if you want to chat in real-time.
-Michael





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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:00 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Hello, and stuff. Reply with quote

I am totally fine without a slick GUI interface. The first 2 years of asterisk stuff I did was all in on the CLI in <editor of your choice> (I use vim most of the time, but not for religious reasons...).

Anyway, thanks for the info, I'll be setting up a freeswitch system this weekend expect to see me on IRC and here..


Thanks!


-Tom

Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:54:25 -0700
From: msc@freeswitch.org
To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Hello, and stuff.

Tom,
Welcome! Sadly, your experience is not unique...

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Christensen Tom <paveraware@hotmail.com (paveraware@hotmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
As a background, I ran an asterisk consulting company for about 3 years that I gave up on 2 years ago after repeatedly failing to achieve any sort of stability on any sort install over about 30 phones, I gave up.

The consensus I've seen is that the larger the install, the more likely one is to have inexplicable issues.

Quote:


Maybe that was wrong, I am open to the possibility that I just didn't know enough and I was building things wrong, but I worked inside the asterisk code (which I feel is a hopeless mess), I implemented a few small custom features, anyway...

Any software that openly admits that a function is "pure nastiness" but doesn't change it from version 1.0, 1.2, 1.4, or 1.6 has questionable leadership IMHO. (grep the Asterisk source tree for "nastiness" and you'll see it.)

Quote:


I'm coming back into the VoIP space now, and I'm wondering what sort of issues can I expect in trying to pick up and learn freeswitch? From what I've read on the website, it appears to have a much more sane architecture. I've used Cisco, Broadsoft, and asterisk in the past. By far the least stable and worst general call quality was asterisk. I constantly contended with strange call quality issues in asterisk, lots of echo (even with hardware echo cancellation cards), lots of jitter, lots of call break up (even on small systems with 10-20 users, using QoS on the network, and in general doing everything I could to prioritize voice over anything else).


Again, your experience isn't unique...

Quote:

When I used Cisco call manager and broadsoft, the voice quality issues were basically non-existant, as long as the network was running QoS echo, stutter, calls breaking up, just didn't happen. So, I guess my question is, does freeswitch show a marked improvement over asterisk in this department? As long as you configure QoS and have hardware echo cancellation does it actually work reliably?


We receive lots of reports that FreeSWITCH is a vast improvement over not only Asterisk but proprietary solutions as well. The FS architecture is, as you mentioned, not insane. It is well thought out and therefore highly flexible, extensible, and scalable. I'm not aware of anything - OSS or proprietary - that can match FS in these three areas.

Quote:

Thanks for any additional information about freeswitch you can provide as well. I am a software developer primarily by trade, but I do lots of consulting type work in the SME space and I've had a couple projects thrown to me that require some integration with a phone system, and I just can't in good conscience recommend asterisk anymore.


Are you comfortable with the lack of a super slick GUI? Smile Some GUIs are in development but the power users are quite happy with doing the emacs (or vim) shuffle with the XML config files. Furthermore, the ways that FS allows you to connect and control are fantastic: mod_xml_curl for dynamic configurations, event-socket for external control (think of it like AMI not sucking and being turbo-charged), mod_xml_rpc for RPC goodness... Anyway, the list is impressive.

I can honestly say that every week we get new people looking at FreeSWITCH and saying, "Wow, this is incredible." I can definitely, in good conscience, recommend you investigate FS more deeply. I'm confident you'll be happy with the return on your investment.

Hope it all works out for you! Join us in #freeswitch on irc.freenode.net if you want to chat in real-time.
-Michael
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:09 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Hello, and stuff. Reply with quote

Welcome on board Tom! And sorry for being witty before Wink
-gm


On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Christensen Tom<paveraware@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
I am totally fine without a slick GUI interface.  The first 2 years of
asterisk stuff I did was all in on the CLI in <editor of your choice> (I use
vim most of the time, but not for religious reasons...).
Anyway, thanks for the info, I'll be setting up a freeswitch system this
weekend expect to see me on IRC and here..
Thanks!
-Tom
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:54:25 -0700
From: msc@freeswitch.org
To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Hello, and stuff.

Tom,
Welcome! Sadly, your experience is not unique...

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Christensen Tom <paveraware@hotmail.com>
wrote:

As a background, I ran an asterisk consulting company for about 3 years that
I gave up on 2 years ago after repeatedly failing to achieve any sort of
stability on any sort install over about 30 phones, I gave up.

The consensus I've seen is that the larger the install, the more likely one
is to have inexplicable issues.


Maybe that was wrong, I am open to the possibility that I just didn't know
enough and I was building things wrong, but I worked inside the asterisk
code (which I feel is a hopeless mess), I implemented a few small custom
features, anyway...

Any software that openly admits that a function is "pure nastiness" but
doesn't change it from version 1.0, 1.2, 1.4, or 1.6 has questionable
leadership IMHO. (grep the Asterisk source tree for "nastiness" and you'll
see it.)


I'm coming back into the VoIP space now, and I'm wondering what sort of
issues can I expect in trying to pick up and learn freeswitch?  From what
I've read on the website, it appears to have a much more sane architecture.
I've used Cisco, Broadsoft, and asterisk in the past.  By far the least
stable and worst general call quality was asterisk.  I constantly contended
with strange call quality issues in asterisk, lots of echo (even with
hardware echo cancellation cards), lots of jitter, lots of call break up
(even on small systems with 10-20 users, using QoS on the network, and in
general doing everything I could to prioritize voice over anything else).

Again, your experience isn't unique...

When I used Cisco call manager and broadsoft, the voice quality issues were
basically non-existant, as long as the network was running QoS echo,
stutter, calls breaking up, just didn't happen.  So, I guess my question is,
does freeswitch show a marked improvement over asterisk in this department?
As long as you configure QoS and have hardware echo cancellation does it
actually work reliably?

We receive lots of reports that FreeSWITCH is a vast improvement over not
only Asterisk but proprietary solutions as well. The FS architecture is, as
you mentioned, not insane. It is well thought out and therefore highly
flexible, extensible, and scalable. I'm not aware of anything - OSS or
proprietary - that can match FS in these three areas.

Thanks for any additional information about freeswitch you can provide as
well.  I am a software developer primarily by trade, but I do lots of
consulting type work in the SME space and I've had a couple projects thrown
to me that require some integration with a phone system, and I just can't in
good conscience recommend asterisk anymore.

Are you comfortable with the lack of a super slick GUI? Smile Some GUIs are in
development but the power users are quite happy with doing the emacs (or
vim) shuffle with the XML config files. Furthermore, the ways that FS allows
you to connect and control are fantastic: mod_xml_curl for dynamic
configurations, event-socket for external control (think of it like AMI not
sucking and being turbo-charged), mod_xml_rpc for RPC goodness... Anyway,
the list is impressive.

I can honestly say that every week we get new people looking at FreeSWITCH
and saying, "Wow, this is incredible." I can definitely, in good conscience,
recommend you investigate FS more deeply. I'm confident you'll be happy with
the return on your investment.

Hope it all works out for you! Join us in #freeswitch on irc.freenode.net if
you want to chat in real-time.
-Michael



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:40 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Hello, and stuff. Reply with quote

Hi Christensen,

Welcome, you made a good choice on FreeSWITCH, and FS is much better at those things than Asterisk.

Good luck, we are here to help you and tell us your experience later Smile.

Diego

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Christensen Tom <paveraware@hotmail.com (paveraware@hotmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
As a background, I ran an asterisk consulting company for about 3 years that I gave up on 2 years ago after repeatedly failing to achieve any sort of stability on any sort install over about 30 phones, I gave up.

Maybe that was wrong, I am open to the possibility that I just didn't know enough and I was building things wrong, but I worked inside the asterisk code (which I feel is a hopeless mess), I implemented a few small custom features, anyway...

I'm coming back into the VoIP space now, and I'm wondering what sort of issues can I expect in trying to pick up and learn freeswitch?  >From what I've read on the website, it appears to have a much more sane architecture.  I've used Cisco, Broadsoft, and asterisk in the past.  By far the least stable and worst general call quality was asterisk.  I constantly contended with strange call quality issues in asterisk, lots of echo (even with hardware echo cancellation cards), lots of jitter, lots of call break up (even on small systems with 10-20 users, using QoS on the network, and in general doing everything I could to prioritize voice over anything else).

When I used Cisco call manager and broadsoft, the voice quality issues were basically non-existant, as long as the network was running QoS echo, stutter, calls breaking up, just didn't happen.  So, I guess my question is, does freeswitch show a marked improvement over asterisk in this department?  As long as you configure QoS and have hardware echo cancellation does it actually work reliably?

Thanks for any additional information about freeswitch you can provide as well.  I am a software developer primarily by trade, but I do lots of consulting type work in the SME space and I've had a couple projects thrown to me that require some integration with a phone system, and I just can't in good conscience recommend asterisk anymore.


-Tom


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:10 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Hello, and stuff. Reply with quote

I currently use FS for a managed PBX services for many companies. It's so configurable and extensible, I don't think I would change it for anything. I have Cisco CME and SCCP phones in my office all interconnected to FS doing logic and thinking. I also have Asterisks as PSTN PRI gateways. FS does all the job for me in the world, the other two are just used as protocol gateways. I wouldn't change FS for anything else now, after a year and the half of playing with it. I fully recommend it.

Regards,
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P.S: To be fair, the echo on the hw ec cards is not really Asterisk's fault.



On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Christensen Tom <paveraware@hotmail.com (paveraware@hotmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
As a background, I ran an asterisk consulting company for about 3 years that I gave up on 2 years ago after repeatedly failing to achieve any sort of stability on any sort install over about 30 phones, I gave up.

Maybe that was wrong, I am open to the possibility that I just didn't know enough and I was building things wrong, but I worked inside the asterisk code (which I feel is a hopeless mess), I implemented a few small custom features, anyway...

I'm coming back into the VoIP space now, and I'm wondering what sort of issues can I expect in trying to pick up and learn freeswitch?  >From what I've read on the website, it appears to have a much more sane architecture.  I've used Cisco, Broadsoft, and asterisk in the past.  By far the least stable and worst general call quality was asterisk.  I constantly contended with strange call quality issues in asterisk, lots of echo (even with hardware echo cancellation cards), lots of jitter, lots of call break up (even on small systems with 10-20 users, using QoS on the network, and in general doing everything I could to prioritize voice over anything else).

When I used Cisco call manager and broadsoft, the voice quality issues were basically non-existant, as long as the network was running QoS echo, stutter, calls breaking up, just didn't happen.  So, I guess my question is, does freeswitch show a marked improvement over asterisk in this department?  As long as you configure QoS and have hardware echo cancellation does it actually work reliably?

Thanks for any additional information about freeswitch you can provide as well.  I am a software developer primarily by trade, but I do lots of consulting type work in the SME space and I've had a couple projects thrown to me that require some integration with a phone system, and I just can't in good conscience recommend asterisk anymore.


-Tom


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:20 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Hello, and stuff. Reply with quote

You guys should put your experiences here Smile.

http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Testimonials

Diego

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Ognjen Seslija <oseslija@gmail.com (oseslija@gmail.com)> wrote:
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I currently use FS for a managed PBX services for many companies. It's so configurable and extensible, I don't think I would change it for anything. I have Cisco CME and SCCP phones in my office all interconnected to FS doing logic and thinking. I also have Asterisks as PSTN PRI gateways. FS does all the job for me in the world, the other two are just used as protocol gateways. I wouldn't change FS for anything else now, after a year and the half of playing with it. I fully recommend it.

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P.S: To be fair, the echo on the hw ec cards is not really Asterisk's fault.



On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Christensen Tom <paveraware@hotmail.com (paveraware@hotmail.com)> wrote:

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As a background, I ran an asterisk consulting company for about 3 years that I gave up on 2 years ago after repeatedly failing to achieve any sort of stability on any sort install over about 30 phones, I gave up.

Maybe that was wrong, I am open to the possibility that I just didn't know enough and I was building things wrong, but I worked inside the asterisk code (which I feel is a hopeless mess), I implemented a few small custom features, anyway...

I'm coming back into the VoIP space now, and I'm wondering what sort of issues can I expect in trying to pick up and learn freeswitch?  >From what I've read on the website, it appears to have a much more sane architecture.  I've used Cisco, Broadsoft, and asterisk in the past.  By far the least stable and worst general call quality was asterisk.  I constantly contended with strange call quality issues in asterisk, lots of echo (even with hardware echo cancellation cards), lots of jitter, lots of call break up (even on small systems with 10-20 users, using QoS on the network, and in general doing everything I could to prioritize voice over anything else).

When I used Cisco call manager and broadsoft, the voice quality issues were basically non-existant, as long as the network was running QoS echo, stutter, calls breaking up, just didn't happen.  So, I guess my question is, does freeswitch show a marked improvement over asterisk in this department?  As long as you configure QoS and have hardware echo cancellation does it actually work reliably?

Thanks for any additional information about freeswitch you can provide as well.  I am a software developer primarily by trade, but I do lots of consulting type work in the SME space and I've had a couple projects thrown to me that require some integration with a phone system, and I just can't in good conscience recommend asterisk anymore.


-Tom




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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:23 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Hello, and stuff. Reply with quote

hello,
freeswitch is Awesome and perfect!
if you know XML, freeswitch use XML for there configuration file, no same to asterisk that trying to create a configuration language!
this unic featur let you integrate freeswitch with any Application that support and Parce XML including Web 2.0
freeswitch also support protocol transcoding, including SIP, H.323, Iax2, Skype and GTalk!
Real Time Feature: freeswitch support XML_Curl that let you configure freeswitch remotly from a web server that fetch data from a DB and return it to freeswitch in XML format
XMLRPC let you execute remote api command using your web browser or your XMLRPC application
about Event Socket, this let you build any type of application that talk to freeswitch or freeswitch talk to it in inbound and outbound mode
good luk!
Christensen Tom wrote:
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As a background, I ran an asterisk consulting company for about 3 years that I gave up on 2 years ago after repeatedly failing to achieve any sort of stability on any sort install over about 30 phones, I gave up.

Maybe that was wrong, I am open to the possibility that I just didn't know enough and I was building things wrong, but I worked inside the asterisk code (which I feel is a hopeless mess), I implemented a few small custom features, anyway...

I'm coming back into the VoIP space now, and I'm wondering what sort of issues can I expect in trying to pick up and learn freeswitch? From what I've read on the website, it appears to have a much more sane architecture. I've used Cisco, Broadsoft, and asterisk in the past. By far the least stable and worst general call quality was asterisk. I constantly contended with strange call quality issues in asterisk, lots of echo (even with hardware echo cancellation cards), lots of jitter, lots of call break up (even on small systems with 10-20 users, using QoS on the network, and in general doing everything I could to prioritize voice over anything else).

When I used Cisco call manager and broadsoft, the voice quality issues were basically non-existant, as long as the network was running QoS echo, stutter, calls breaking up, just didn't happen. So, I guess my question is, does freeswitch show a marked improvement over asterisk in this department? As long as you configure QoS and have hardware echo cancellation does it actually work reliably?

Thanks for any additional information about freeswitch you can provide as well. I am a software developer primarily by trade, but I do lots of consulting type work in the SME space and I've had a couple projects thrown to me that require some integration with a phone system, and I just can't in good conscience recommend asterisk anymore.


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