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gabe at gundy.org
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 Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:53 am Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck? |
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Hey all,
The 3rd annual UTOSC (Utah Open Source Conference) [1] starts today.
It's a conference that gives Open Source users/hackers a chance gather
together to mingle and share. It's a lot of fun. Anyway, this year
I've offered to work with a friend of mine to lead a BoF (Birds of a
Feather) discussion on Open Source Telephony [2].
While it should mostly be group discussion, you never know when people
are going to get shy and clam up. *If* they do, it would be nice to
have some slides to fill that time. Rather than make some from
scratch (that are unlikely to get used), I thought I'd ask here and
see if anyone has a FS slide deck that they wouldn't mind sharing.
Thanks,
Gabe
1) http://2009.utosc.com/pages/home/
2) http://2009.utosc.com/presentation/136/
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msc at freeswitch.org
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| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:07 pm Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck? |
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On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Gabriel Gunderson <gabe@gundy.org (gabe@gundy.org)> wrote:
| Quote: | Hey all,
The 3rd annual UTOSC (Utah Open Source Conference) [1] starts today.
It's a conference that gives Open Source users/hackers a chance gather
together to mingle and share. It's a lot of fun. Anyway, this year
I've offered to work with a friend of mine to lead a BoF (Birds of a
Feather) discussion on Open Source Telephony [2].
While it should mostly be group discussion, you never know when people
are going to get shy and clam up. *If* they do, it would be nice to
have some slides to fill that time. Rather than make some from
scratch (that are unlikely to get used), I thought I'd ask here and
see if anyone has a FS slide deck that they wouldn't mind sharing.
Thanks,
Gabe
1) http://2009.utosc.com/pages/home/
2) http://2009.utosc.com/presentation/136/
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There are numerous slides and such from ClueCon. Go to http://www.cluecon.com and you can download both the video files as well as the actual presentations. The presentation files are in various formats such as PPT(X), PDF, and Keynote.
The second presentation on day 1 is Anthony Minessale and he talks a lot about expanding one's thinking when it comes to applying FreeSWITCH in production. For example, some people will jump through crazy hoops to solve a problem "because that's how they've always done it." Anyway, check out that video and presentation file for some great ideas.
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gabe at gundy.org
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| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:11 pm Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck? |
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Naturally the wireless is jacked at the conf. It's no match for the
100's of geeks sporting laptops. Thanks for the link. Looks like
we'll be shooting from the hip. 
Gabe
On Thursday, October 8, 2009, Michael Collins <msc@freeswitch.org> wrote:
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On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Gabriel Gunderson <gabe@gundy.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'gabe@gundy.org');>> wrote:
Hey all,
The 3rd annual UTOSC (Utah Open Source Conference) [1] starts today.
It's a conference that gives Open Source users/hackers a chance gather
together to mingle and share. It's a lot of fun. Anyway, this year
I've offered to work with a friend of mine to lead a BoF (Birds of a
Feather) discussion on Open Source Telephony [2].
While it should mostly be group discussion, you never know when people
are going to get shy and clam up. *If* they do, it would be nice to
have some slides to fill that time. Rather than make some from
scratch (that are unlikely to get used), I thought I'd ask here and
see if anyone has a FS slide deck that they wouldn't mind sharing.
Thanks,
Gabe
1) http://2009.utosc.com/pages/home/
2) http://2009.utosc.com/presentation/136/
There are numerous slides and such from ClueCon. Go to http://www.cluecon.com and you can download both the video files as well as the actual presentations. The presentation files are in various formats such as PPT(X), PDF, and Keynote.
The second presentation on day 1 is Anthony Minessale and he talks a lot about expanding one's thinking when it comes to applying FreeSWITCH in production. For example, some people will jump through crazy hoops to solve a problem "because that's how they've always done it." Anyway, check out that video and presentation file for some great ideas.
-MC
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msc at freeswitch.org
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| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:50 pm Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck? |
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On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Gabriel Gunderson <gabe@gundy.org (gabe@gundy.org)> wrote:
| Quote: | Naturally the wireless is jacked at the conf. It's no match for the
100's of geeks sporting laptops. Thanks for the link. Looks like
we'll be shooting from the hip.
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We experienced something similar at ClueCon, but it was that the hotel's DHCP server was a total wuss.
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gabe at gundy.org
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:46 am Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck? |
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On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Michael Collins <msc@freeswitch.org> wrote:
| Quote: | On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Gabriel Gunderson <gabe@gundy.org> wrote:
| Quote: | Naturally the wireless is jacked at the conf. It's no match for the
100's of geeks sporting laptops. Thanks for the link. Looks like
we'll be shooting from the hip.
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We experienced something similar at ClueCon, but it was that the hotel's
DHCP server was a total wuss.
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So, I just got back from the first day of the conference and there was
plenty of interest in FreeSWITCH from all the Asterisk users. We had
a good time and answered lots of questions. It was interesting to
hear what their perceptions about FS were.
Gabe
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msc at freeswitch.org
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:18 am Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck? |
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On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Gabriel Gunderson <gabe@gundy.org (gabe@gundy.org)> wrote:
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On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Michael Collins <msc@freeswitch.org (msc@freeswitch.org)> wrote:
| Quote: | On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Gabriel Gunderson <gabe@gundy.org (gabe@gundy.org)> wrote:
| Quote: | Naturally the wireless is jacked at the conf. It's no match for the
100's of geeks sporting laptops. Thanks for the link. Looks like
we'll be shooting from the hip.
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We experienced something similar at ClueCon, but it was that the hotel's
DHCP server was a total wuss.
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So, I just got back from the first day of the conference and there was
plenty of interest in FreeSWITCH from all the Asterisk users. We had
a good time and answered lots of questions. It was interesting to
hear what their perceptions about FS were.
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Thanks for reporting back. Please let all the Asterisk users know that they are welcome to join us in #freeswitch on irc.freenode.net and that they will not be abused like people do in other less friendly IRC channels.
-MC
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gabe at gundy.org
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:50 am Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck? |
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On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Michael Collins <msc@freeswitch.org> wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks for reporting back. Please let all the Asterisk users know that they
are welcome to join us in #freeswitch on irc.freenode.net and that they will
not be abused like people do in other less friendly IRC channels.
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Funny you mention this. Many people report that the way the FS
community refers to Asterisk in docs/wikis/irc/whatever makes the FS
camp seem *less* welcoming to them. After all, they identify as
Asterisk Users and take the criticism as being kinda harsh. Most of
them acknowledge the shortcomings of Asterisk but are put off when
someone else points them out. It's crazy, I know. The thing is, I
remember thinking that too. After getting to know FS better, I didn't
notice it as much. Nobody likes to hear their baby is ugly --even if
they know it is.
At our session, and in general, I've noticed people are more
interested in hearing about FS when you don't make direct comparisons
to Asterisk. Besides, FS stands on it's own merit.
Just what I've observed *and* my 2 additional cents.
Gabe
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msc at freeswitch.org
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:13 am Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck? |
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On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Gabriel Gunderson <gabe@gundy.org (gabe@gundy.org)> wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Michael Collins <msc@freeswitch.org (msc@freeswitch.org)> wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks for reporting back. Please let all the Asterisk users know that they
are welcome to join us in #freeswitch on irc.freenode.net and that they will
not be abused like people do in other less friendly IRC channels.
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Funny you mention this. Many people report that the way the FS
community refers to Asterisk in docs/wikis/irc/whatever makes the FS
camp seem *less* welcoming to them. After all, they identify as
Asterisk Users and take the criticism as being kinda harsh. Most of
them acknowledge the shortcomings of Asterisk but are put off when
someone else points them out. It's crazy, I know. The thing is, I
remember thinking that too. After getting to know FS better, I didn't
notice it as much. Nobody likes to hear their baby is ugly --even if
they know it is.
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Interesting. I'd like to know what specifically turned them off. It could be node 117, but that was written by Anthony in response to dozens of questions about the subject. In any case, if the Asterisk guys look at the first edition of the Starfish/TFOT book they'll see glowing praise of Anthony Minessale and Brian West, so maybe they'll be willing to listen to those guys since they've got so much Asterisk knowledge. The other thing is that many people in the FreeSWITCH community are Asterisk refugees. They left Asterisk for FreeSWITCH because they had some sort of trouble with Asterisk. If that comes across in the docs then we'll have to see about cleaning that up.
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At our session, and in general, I've noticed people are more
interested in hearing about FS when you don't make direct comparisons
to Asterisk. Besides, FS stands on it's own merit.
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Agreed. Direct comparisons can always be slanted in any direction. Besides, FreeSWITCH stacks up very well against a lot of modern (i.e. expensive) equipment put out by the big boys (Cisco, Avaya, NEC, ShoreTel, etc.).
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Just what I've observed *and* my 2 additional cents.
Gabe
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mike at jerris.com
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:01 pm Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck? |
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On Oct 9, 2009, at 2:41 AM, Gabriel Gunderson wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Michael Collins
<msc@freeswitch.org> wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks for reporting back. Please let all the Asterisk users know
that they
are welcome to join us in #freeswitch on irc.freenode.net and that
they will
not be abused like people do in other less friendly IRC channels.
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Funny you mention this. Many people report that the way the FS
community refers to Asterisk in docs/wikis/irc/whatever makes the FS
camp seem *less* welcoming to them. After all, they identify as
Asterisk Users and take the criticism as being kinda harsh. Most of
them acknowledge the shortcomings of Asterisk but are put off when
someone else points them out. It's crazy, I know. The thing is, I
remember thinking that too. After getting to know FS better, I didn't
notice it as much. Nobody likes to hear their baby is ugly --even if
they know it is.
At our session, and in general, I've noticed people are more
interested in hearing about FS when you don't make direct comparisons
to Asterisk. Besides, FS stands on it's own merit.
Just what I've observed *and* my 2 additional cents.
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I have certainly seen this on irc in the past and we should do our
best to avoid this, I have not seen this in the docs or wiki, do you
know of any specifics you can point me to so we can correct this issue.
Mike
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diego.viola at gmail.com
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:14 pm Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck? |
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I have seen this on the wiki too, for example:
I know that's just a joke and we might make one or two jokes, but we don't really hate Asterisk and we welcome them, there are some people who might get offended by the jokes (specially Asterisk users) but I have already corrected these from the wiki.
Thanks for the feedback Gabriel.
Diego
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Michael Jerris <mike@jerris.com (mike@jerris.com)> wrote:
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On Oct 9, 2009, at 2:41 AM, Gabriel Gunderson wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Michael Collins
<msc@freeswitch.org (msc@freeswitch.org)> wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks for reporting back. Please let all the Asterisk users know
that they
are welcome to join us in #freeswitch on irc.freenode.net and that
they will
not be abused like people do in other less friendly IRC channels.
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Funny you mention this. Many people report that the way the FS
community refers to Asterisk in docs/wikis/irc/whatever makes the FS
camp seem *less* welcoming to them. After all, they identify as
Asterisk Users and take the criticism as being kinda harsh. Most of
them acknowledge the shortcomings of Asterisk but are put off when
someone else points them out. It's crazy, I know. The thing is, I
remember thinking that too. After getting to know FS better, I didn't
notice it as much. Nobody likes to hear their baby is ugly --even if
they know it is.
At our session, and in general, I've noticed people are more
interested in hearing about FS when you don't make direct comparisons
to Asterisk. Besides, FS stands on it's own merit.
Just what I've observed *and* my 2 additional cents.
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I have certainly seen this on irc in the past and we should do our
best to avoid this, I have not seen this in the docs or wiki, do you
know of any specifics you can point me to so we can correct this issue.
Mike
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brian at freeswitch.org
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:59 pm Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck? |
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I have tried to police the wiki when things like this appear.. its one
thing to crack a joke in fun from time to time... but to put stuff
like that on the wiki isn't acceptable.
/b
On Oct 11, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Diego Viola wrote:
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I know that's just a joke and we might make one or two jokes, but we
don't really hate Asterisk and we welcome them, there are some
people who might get offended by the jokes (specially Asterisk
users) but I have already corrected these from the wiki.
Thanks for the feedback Gabriel.
Diego
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msc at freeswitch.org
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| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:42 pm Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck? |
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On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org (brian@freeswitch.org)> wrote:
| Quote: | I have tried to police the wiki when things like this appear.. its one
thing to crack a joke in fun from time to time... but to put stuff
like that on the wiki isn't acceptable.
/b
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It seemed appropriate to do so, therefore I added a small snippet on the documentation guidelines:
http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Documentation_guidelines#Keep_It_Professional
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gabe at gundy.org
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msc at freeswitch.org
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| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:50 pm Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck? |
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On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Gabriel Gunderson <gabe@gundy.org (gabe@gundy.org)> wrote:
| Quote: | On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Michael Collins <msc@freeswitch.org (msc@freeswitch.org)> wrote:
Good guidelines...
Just in time to help the author of this lovely bit:
'I would love some brief descriptions of what you guys are doing with
FreeSWITCH so I can write an article to shove down the throats of
idiots who keep saying that "FreeSWITCH is an Asterisk alternative
that offers basic PBX functionality."'
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Touché, my good man, touché. I'll fix that right away.
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gabe at gundy.org
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| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:36 pm Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck? |
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On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Michael Collins <msc@freeswitch.org> wrote:
| Quote: | On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Gabriel Gunderson <gabe@gundy.org> wrote:
| Quote: | On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Michael Collins <msc@freeswitch.org>
wrote:
Good guidelines...
Just in time to help the author of this lovely bit:
'I would love some brief descriptions of what you guys are doing with
FreeSWITCH so I can write an article to shove down the throats of
idiots who keep saying that "FreeSWITCH is an Asterisk alternative
that offers basic PBX functionality."'
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Touché, my good man, touché. I'll fix that right away.
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Never let it be said that you're not a good sport.
Gabe
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