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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:01 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Sipura Codec Problem Reply with quote

Hi,

I'm having a problem with a Sipura, it is sending for the G729 the
tag "G729a" witch is not correct due the RFC.

Media Attribute (a): rtpmap:18 G729a/8000

FS is returning (200OK)

Media Attribute (a): rtpmap:96 G729/8000

I think that the problem is that FS is not matching the codec, so it
returns the first dynamic payload which is 96.

I think that I've seen post with a similar issue, and the solution was
to change the tag before it hit the switch, so, what I've done is to
change the "switch_r_sdp" (I have the rest of the parameters correct
due I also use it to dynamically change the codecs order) and it's
changing the SDP, but when FS sends the 200OK it is returning to the
endpoint:

Media Attribute (a): rtpmap:96 G729/8000

Which is exactly the same problem that I have without the
transformation of the SDP.

Is it correct? Do I have another solution?

Thanks


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:07 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Sipura Codec Problem Reply with quote

FIx your sipura to NOT include the a in the codec its in the admin
section of the UI on the ATA.

/b

On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Mariano de Llano wrote:

Quote:
Hi,

I'm having a problem with a Sipura, it is sending for the G729 the
tag "G729a" witch is not correct due the RFC.

Media Attribute (a): rtpmap:18 G729a/8000

FS is returning (200OK)

Media Attribute (a): rtpmap:96 G729/8000

I think that the problem is that FS is not matching the codec, so it
returns the first dynamic payload which is 96.

I think that I've seen post with a similar issue, and the solution was
to change the tag before it hit the switch, so, what I've done is to
change the "switch_r_sdp" (I have the rest of the parameters correct
due I also use it to dynamically change the codecs order) and it's
changing the SDP, but when FS sends the 200OK it is returning to the
endpoint:

Media Attribute (a): rtpmap:96 G729/8000

Which is exactly the same problem that I have without the
transformation of the SDP.

Is it correct? Do I have another solution?

Thanks



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:09 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Sipura Codec Problem Reply with quote

I think you can edit the prefs in your sipura and change it to the correct string.


On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Mariano de Llano <mariano.dellano@gmail.com (mariano.dellano@gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
Hi,

I'm having a problem with a Sipura, it is sending for the G729  the
tag "G729a" witch is not correct due the RFC.

Media Attribute (a): rtpmap:18 G729a/8000

FS is returning (200OK)

Media Attribute (a): rtpmap:96 G729/8000

I think that the problem is that FS is not matching the codec, so it
returns the first dynamic payload which is 96.

I think that I've seen post with a similar issue, and the solution was
to change the tag before it hit the switch, so, what I've done is to
change the "switch_r_sdp" (I have the rest of the parameters correct
due I also use it to dynamically change the codecs order) and it's
changing the SDP, but when FS sends the 200OK it is returning to the
endpoint:

Media Attribute (a): rtpmap:96 G729/8000

Which is exactly the same problem that I have without the
transformation of the SDP.

Is it correct? Do I have another solution?

Thanks


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:26 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Sipura Codec Problem Reply with quote

Yes, that was my first option, but there many endpoints that I'm not
able to configure. Basically it's a broadband solution where I have
like 1000 endpoints that are out of my provisioning.

Thanks,
M

On 03/11/2009, at 14:58, Brian West wrote:

Quote:
FIx your sipura to NOT include the a in the codec its in the admin
section of the UI on the ATA.

/b

On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Mariano de Llano wrote:

Quote:
Hi,

I'm having a problem with a Sipura, it is sending for the G729 the
tag "G729a" witch is not correct due the RFC.

Media Attribute (a): rtpmap:18 G729a/8000

FS is returning (200OK)

Media Attribute (a): rtpmap:96 G729/8000

I think that the problem is that FS is not matching the codec, so it
returns the first dynamic payload which is 96.

I think that I've seen post with a similar issue, and the solution
was
to change the tag before it hit the switch, so, what I've done is to
change the "switch_r_sdp" (I have the rest of the parameters correct
due I also use it to dynamically change the codecs order) and it's
changing the SDP, but when FS sends the 200OK it is returning to the
endpoint:

Media Attribute (a): rtpmap:96 G729/8000

Which is exactly the same problem that I have without the
transformation of the SDP.

Is it correct? Do I have another solution?

Thanks



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:35 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Sipura Codec Problem Reply with quote

Sounds like bad planning. I would send out a memo to your users and
have them fix it. I have raised a bug multiple times with Cisco g729a
is NOT valid.

/b

On Nov 3, 2009, at 12:11 PM, Mariano de Llano wrote:

Quote:
Yes, that was my first option, but there many endpoints that I'm not
able to configure. Basically it's a broadband solution where I have
like 1000 endpoints that are out of my provisioning.

Thanks,
M


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:37 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Sipura Codec Problem Reply with quote

so imagine how much money all those sipuras cost.
They get all the money *and* have a bug and we are free and are supposed to break the rules for them.


On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Mariano de Llano <mariano.dellano@gmail.com (mariano.dellano@gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
Yes, that was my first option, but there many endpoints that I'm not
able to configure. Basically it's a broadband solution where I have
like 1000 endpoints that are out of my provisioning.

Thanks,
M


On 03/11/2009, at 14:58, Brian West wrote:

Quote:
FIx your sipura to NOT include the a in the codec its in the admin
section of the UI on the ATA.

/b

On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Mariano de Llano wrote:

Quote:
Hi,

I'm having a problem with a Sipura, it is sending for the G729  the
tag "G729a" witch is not correct due the RFC.

Media Attribute (a): rtpmap:18 G729a/8000

FS is returning (200OK)

Media Attribute (a): rtpmap:96 G729/8000

I think that the problem is that FS is not matching the codec, so it
returns the first dynamic payload which is 96.

I think that I've seen post with a similar issue, and the solution
was
to change the tag before it hit the switch, so, what I've done is to
change the "switch_r_sdp" (I have the rest of the parameters correct
due I also use it to dynamically change the codecs order) and it's
changing the SDP, but when FS sends the 200OK it is returning to the
endpoint:

Media Attribute (a): rtpmap:96 G729/8000

Which is exactly the same problem that I have without the
transformation of the SDP.

Is it correct? Do I have another solution?

Thanks



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:57 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Sipura Codec Problem Reply with quote

I am willing to support this with the note that its incorrect and will not support it by default but update to trunk and try:
<param name="NDLB-allow-bad-iananame" value="true"/>

this should fix it for you, SIGH


On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org (brian@freeswitch.org)> wrote:
Quote:
Sounds like bad planning.  I would send out a memo to your users and
have them fix it.  I have raised a bug multiple times with Cisco g729a
is NOT valid.

/b

On Nov 3, 2009, at 12:11 PM, Mariano de Llano wrote:

Quote:
Yes, that was my first option, but there many endpoints that I'm not
able to configure. Basically it's a broadband solution where I have
like 1000 endpoints that are out of my provisioning.

Thanks,
M




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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:22 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Sipura Codec Problem Reply with quote

It appears that Tony has already added an option (amazing) BUT you
should really be setup for central provisioning with an installed base
that large... You'll eventually have issues that *NO* amount of
Tony/FreeSWITCH magic can fix.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Mariano de Llano
<mariano.dellano@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Yes, that was my first option, but there many endpoints that I'm not
able to configure. Basically it's a broadband solution where I have
like 1000 endpoints that are out of my provisioning.

Thanks,
M


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:31 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Sipura Codec Problem Reply with quote

Actually, there were a few more misinterpretations in earlier software of Cisco Gateways, which RFC implementers had to address in RFC3551, strange ...

RTP Payload Type 19 remains reserved because "some implementations" wrongly interpreted 13 decimal as 13 hexadecimal value.
Another issue is G726 bit packing. Again "some implementations" used wrong bit packing and RFC3551 tried to partially resolve this conflict introducing new payload format named AAL2-G726 ...


From: Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org>
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Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 10:27:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Sipura Codec Problem

Sounds like bad planning. I would send out a memo to your users and
have them fix it. I have raised a bug multiple times with Cisco g729a
is NOT valid.

/b

On Nov 3, 2009, at 12:11 PM, Mariano de Llano wrote:

Quote:
Yes, that was my first option, but there many endpoints that I'm not
able to configure. Basically it's a broadband solution where I have
like 1000 endpoints that are out of my provisioning.

Thanks,
M


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:36 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Sipura Codec Problem Reply with quote

THE BLOODY MADNESS!!! I can only stop if people start saying 'NO'. Smile

/b

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Quote:
Don't forget the one where there was a typo in the one for G722 so
now we are all required to emulate that typo by running a 16khz
codec with 8khz timestamps and sdp params.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:40 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Sipura Codec Problem Reply with quote

Yah this one is LLLAME!!!! Razz

We have some dyslexic engineers.

/b

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Another issue is G726 bit packing. Again "some implementations" used
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:40 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Sipura Codec Problem Reply with quote

Don't forget the one where there was a typo in the one for G722 so now we are all required to emulate that typo by running a 16khz codec with 8khz timestamps and sdp params.



On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Arsen Chaloyan <achaloyan@yahoo.com (achaloyan@yahoo.com)> wrote:
Quote:
Actually, there were a few more misinterpretations in earlier software of Cisco Gateways, which RFC implementers had to address in RFC3551, strange ...

RTP Payload Type 19 remains reserved because "some implementations" wrongly interpreted 13 decimal as 13 hexadecimal value.
Another issue is G726 bit packing. Again "some implementations" used wrong bit packing and RFC3551 tried to partially resolve this conflict introducing new payload format named AAL2-G726 ...


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Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 10:27:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Sipura Codec Problem


Sounds like bad planning.  I would send out a memo to your users and 
have them fix it.  I have raised a bug multiple times with Cisco g729a 
is NOT valid.

/b

On Nov 3, 2009, at 12:11 PM, Mariano de Llano wrote:

Quote:
Yes, that was my first option, but there many endpoints that I'm not
able to configure. Basically it's a broadband solution where I have
like 1000 endpoints that are out of my provisioning.

Thanks,
M


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:45 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Sipura Codec Problem Reply with quote

At some point the paint will be rubbed off the magic lamp.

/b

On Nov 3, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Kristian Kielhofner wrote:

Quote:
It appears that Tony has already added an option (amazing) BUT you
should really be setup for central provisioning with an installed base
that large... You'll eventually have issues that *NO* amount of
Tony/FreeSWITCH magic can fix.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:24 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Sipura Codec Problem Reply with quote

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Kristian Kielhofner <kristian.kielhofner@gmail.com (kristian.kielhofner@gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
It appears that Tony has already added an option (amazing) BUT you
should really be setup for central provisioning with an installed base
that large...  You'll eventually have issues that *NO* amount of
Tony/FreeSWITCH magic can fix.

Kristian is correct. Listen to him because he's familiar with having lots and lots of units out in the field. The bandage Tony applied will eventually wear off. The long-term solution is to treat the malady and not the symptom. I'm certain that members of the FS community could point you toward some resources to assist with central provisioning.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:26 am    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Sipura Codec Problem Reply with quote

just an off-topic question but it concenns mass provissioning ... does anyone know if there is an open TR069 platform we can work on?

T.

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Michael Collins <msc@freeswitch.org (msc@freeswitch.org)> wrote:
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On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Kristian Kielhofner <kristian.kielhofner@gmail.com (kristian.kielhofner@gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
It appears that Tony has already added an option (amazing) BUT you
should really be setup for central provisioning with an installed base
that large...  You'll eventually have issues that *NO* amount of
Tony/FreeSWITCH magic can fix.


Kristian is correct. Listen to him because he's familiar with having lots and lots of units out in the field. The bandage Tony applied will eventually wear off. The long-term solution is to treat the malady and not the symptom. I'm certain that members of the FS community could point you toward some resources to assist with central provisioning.

-MC




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