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andyspr at gmail.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:55 am Post subject: [asterisk-biz] IP / USB Phones required

Hi All, I am depressed these days, and I am always worried about my business and can not sleep well and eating well, I am always thinking of some questions, after I have posted our products here, many many people enquiry and I am also very happy and patient to give them answers but they never give orders, I do not know why this situation happens and what our customers are worring about or thinking about, can anyone give me an answer? Thanks and best regards andy

trixter at 0xdecafbad.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:41 am Post subject: [asterisk-biz] IP / USB Phones required

On Sun, 2008-03-23 at 21:46 +0800, Andy Spring wrote:

Quote:

Hi All,

I am depressed these days, and I am always worried about my business
and can not sleep well and eating well, I am always thinking of some
questions, after I have posted our products here, many many people
enquiry and I am also very happy and patient to give them answers but
they never give orders, I do not know why this situation happens and
what our customers are worring about or thinking about,
can anyone give me an answer?

Well saying that you are depressed and worried about your business does
not inspire confidence that the business will be there to support anyone
who buys your products in the future. that would certainly give me
cause for concern in buying a product.

If you get inquiries and do not convert those to sales, perhaps it
relates to either the product itself, or the technique that you used.
There are consultants that you can hire to assist you in both of these
areas if you are truely concerned and want to evolve as a business.

However, these questions are not related to asterisk so this list may
not be the best place to ask them.

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Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel
Belfast +44 28 9099 6461 US +1 516 687 5200
http://www.trxtel.com the phone company that pays you!

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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:08 am Post subject: [asterisk-biz] IP / USB Phones required

Hi Andy, I know how you feel as I been in sales for over 30yrs. I can only tell you that I work with a funnel. Only 25% of the people who show an interest will buy. That’s why I look for business every day. I call 70 people a day or more to get a enough in my funnel to make sure If a deal doen't make it to the end, I have enough to cover it. Selling is not easy. Cliff From: asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Andy Spring Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 9:47 AM To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] IP / USB Phones required Hi All, I am depressed these days, and I am always worried about my business and can not sleep well and eating well, I am always thinking of some questions, after I have posted our products here, many many people enquiry and I am also very happy and patient to give them answers but they never give orders, I do not know why this situation happens and what our customers are worring about or thinking about, can anyone give me an answer? Thanks and best regards andy

m345 at netvision.net.il
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:06 am Post subject: [asterisk-biz] IP / USB Phones required

Cliff,
If you convert 25% of your calls to sales you are great!
Moshe

Cliff Mazer wrote:

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Hi Andy,

I know how you feel as I been in sales for over 30yrs. I can only tell you that I work with a funnel. Only 25% of the people who show an interest will buy. That’s why I look for business every day. I call 70 people a day or more to get a enough in my funnel to make sure If a deal doen't make it to the end, I have enough to cover it. Selling is not easy.

Cliff

From: asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com) [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com)] On Behalf Of Andy Spring
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 9:47 AM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] IP / USB Phones required

Hi All,

I am depressed these days, and I am always worried about my business and can not sleep well and eating well, I am always thinking of some questions, after I have posted our products here, many many people enquiry and I am also very happy and patient to give them answers but they never give orders, I do not know why this situation happens and what our customers are worring about or thinking about,

can anyone give me an answer?

Thanks and best regards

andy

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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:19 am Post subject: [asterisk-biz] IP / USB Phones required

Not calls, people who show an interest that I put in my CRM, I find that’s about 1% of all the call I make and get someone to talk too. Thanks you for thinking that I can convert 70 calls a day to 25% of sales. It doesn't work that way.

Cliff

From: asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Moshe Maeir
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 11:02 AM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] IP / USB Phones required

Cliff,
If you convert 25% of your calls to sales you are great!
Moshe

Cliff Mazer wrote:
Hi Andy,

I know how you feel as I been in sales for over 30yrs. I can only tell you that I work with a funnel. Only 25% of the people who show an interest will buy. That’s why I look for business every day. I call 70 people a day or more to get a enough in my funnel to make sure If a deal doen't make it to the end, I have enough to cover it. Selling is not easy.

Cliff

From: asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com) [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com (asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com)] On Behalf Of Andy Spring
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 9:47 AM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] IP / USB Phones required

Hi All,

I am depressed these days, and I am always worried about my business and can not sleep well and eating well, I am always thinking of some questions, after I have posted our products here, many many people enquiry and I am also very happy and patient to give them answers but they never give orders, I do not know why this situation happens and what our customers are worring about or thinking about,

can anyone give me an answer?

Thanks and best regards

andy

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trixter at 0xdecafbad.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:37 am Post subject: [asterisk-biz] IP / USB Phones required

On Sun, 2008-03-23 at 09:11 -0700, Cliff Mazer wrote:

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Not calls, people who show an interest that I put in my CRM, I find
thatâ€™s about 1% of all the call I make and get someone to talk too.
Thanks you for thinking that I can convert 70 calls a day to 25% of
sales. It doesn't work that way.

Then you are just selling teh wrong product. I could do that with the
right product, unfortunately I havent found one yet that will do that.
I was thinking something along the lines of something that is free, no
commitment, totally anonymous, and would be useful and profitable for
each person I call to possess. Somehow I dont think I will ever find
such a product :)

--
Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel
Belfast +44 28 9099 6461 US +1 516 687 5200
http://www.trxtel.com the phone company that pays you!

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cmazer at thinkingphon...
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:58 am Post subject: [asterisk-biz] IP / USB Phones required

I like what I sell, and I think a Hosted VOIP product does very well in the area that I selling (20 user or more). The difference is that the company I work for does it right. The devil in the details and with VOIP that will make or break a company. I love what I do Smile

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From: asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Trixter aka Bret McDanel
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 12:33 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] IP / USB Phones required

On Sun, 2008-03-23 at 09:11 -0700, Cliff Mazer wrote:

Quote:

--
Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel
Belfast +44 28 9099 6461 US +1 516 687 5200
http://www.trxtel.com the phone company that pays you!

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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:04 pm Post subject: [asterisk-biz] IP / USB Phones required

On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Andy Spring <andyspr@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

Hi All,

I am depressed these days, and I am always worried about my business and can
not sleep well and eating well, I am always thinking of some questions,
after I have posted our products here, many many people enquiry and I am
also very happy and patient to give them answers but they never give orders,
I do not know why this situation happens and what our customers are worring
about or thinking about,
can anyone give me an answer?

Thanks and best regards
andy

Andy is just being too honest and some may construe it as weakness.
All small business owners (medium and large too) go through this at
some point. I suggest that you keep those feeling to a close few in
your life, let the feelings out of course, but don't publish them for
the whole world.

My suggestion is that you find and develop a relationship with
someone/company in your target markets. You are the manufacturer,
your problem is that you have no distribution chain in place to get
your products out there. Offering wholesale to the list may turn up a
few people in the right position to carry and distribute your products
and are trustworthy but it may not as well.

I think you should find a company that does something already along
the lines of the product you are offering, make contact, if you see a
real interest, send a demo unit for free (R&D, staffing, overhead is
much more of a worry when nobody is buying). If your product is good,
it will sell itself, you just have to get it into the right people's
hands in the right vertical or niche market.

Vehicles, children, pets, possibly law enforcement, health care
(elderly with dementia) seem like obvious verticals, a niche would
serve you very well.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:41 pm Post subject: [asterisk-biz] IP / USB Phones required

On Sun, 2008-03-23 at 13:59 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:

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Offering wholesale to the list may turn up a few people in
the right position to carry and distribute your products
and are trustworthy but it may not as well.

I would like to clarify that a bit. there are many on this list, some
who post, some who dont. There are also some (probably most) who are
trustworthy, then there are those who arent. Just like anywhere else in
the world. So just to be clear, just because they are on this list does
not mean they are trustworthy, however given this lists apparent desire
to let it all out at the first opportunity, I am sure that if you wanted
to question about how trust worthy people are, you are likely to get
comments here Smile

andyspr at gmail.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:15 pm Post subject: [asterisk-biz] IP / USB Phones required

Thanks all for your kind comments and advice, I am working in a company as an international seller, my work is sell out our goods and give our customers good service, I can give our customers any answer about their questions in order to get order.
I will still keep to make my best efforts to make selling.If anyone can help me, that would be appreciated!

Regards
andy

2008/3/24, Trixter aka Bret McDanel <trixter@0xdecafbad.com (trixter@0xdecafbad.com)>:

Quote:

On Sun, 2008-03-23 at 13:59 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:

Quote:

Offering wholesale to the list may turn up a few people in
the right position to carry and distribute your products
and are trustworthy but it may not as well.

--
andy
andyspr@gmail.com (andyspr@gmail.com)

c.savinovich at itntel...
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject: [asterisk-biz] IP / USB Phones required

Andy:

Congratulations for your sincerity. And I don’t think your question is off the mark either. My personal opinion is that this forum is not really the best venue for end-user sales. Reason is: most people here are not end users. We are all selling, and mostly selling the same stuff. This forum is a better venue to network and to make alliances (whatever that means). Some in the forum will contact you mostly to check if what you have is what they have. Unless you have something no one really has, and if so, everyone will want to make business with you. For end-user sales, you are better off looking to end user channels. And by the way, if you are not offering something that has to do with Asterisk, they would not be interested either. You can be offering the cure for the flu, but no one will be interested in buying it unless they have the flu.

That being said, I think you are in the correct path, since you have saved yourself months of shooting in the dark, just for asking this question.

C. Savinovich

From: asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Andy Spring
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 6:09 PM
To: trixter@0xdecafbad.com; Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] IP / USB Phones required

Thanks all for your kind comments and advice, I am working in a company as an international seller, my work is sell out our goods and give our customers good service, I can give our customers any answer about their questions in order to get order.

I will still keep to make my best efforts to make selling.If anyone can help me, that would be appreciated!

Regards

andy

2008/3/24, Trixter aka Bret McDanel <trixter@0xdecafbad.com (trixter@0xdecafbad.com)>:

On Sun, 2008-03-23 at 13:59 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:

Quote:

Offering wholesale to the list may turn up a few people in
the right position to carry and distribute your products
and are trustworthy but it may not as well.

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