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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:31 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Mod_pjsip Reply with quote

Hi my FreeSWITCH friends
Today we talked about FreeSWITCH libraries and we found pjsip, which is
a lot better than sofia, it can do everything sofia can do and more,
it's thread-safe and performs well, I would love to see a mod_pjsip.
The library is GPL but they also offer alternative licensing, don't get
me wrong, Sofia is great but I think FreeSWITCH will benefit from a
thread-safe SIP library.
don't say that i need some stuf for free, but we need to make fs a very
also we love freeswitch to run in a Embedded PC like the blackfin
CPU/boards, Pjsip is very good for Embedded SIP Devicesawesome Open
Source project
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:22 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Mod_pjsip Reply with quote

This is pretty interesting, is sofia thread safe as well?

Diego

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
               Hi my FreeSWITCH friends
Today we talked about FreeSWITCH libraries and we found pjsip, which is
a lot better than sofia, it can do everything sofia can do and more,
it's thread-safe and performs well, I would love to see a mod_pjsip.
The library is GPL but they also offer alternative licensing, don't get
me wrong, Sofia is great but I think FreeSWITCH will benefit from a
thread-safe SIP library.
don't say that i need some stuf for free, but we need to make fs a very
also we love freeswitch to run in a Embedded PC like the blackfin
CPU/boards, Pjsip is very good for Embedded SIP Devicesawesome Open
Source project
With much love,
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:24 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Mod_pjsip Reply with quote

I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If it was/
is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact that it
isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't suitable
for FS at this time.

-MV

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 31, 2009, at 1:21 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>
wrote:

Quote:
Hi my FreeSWITCH friends
Today we talked about FreeSWITCH libraries and we found pjsip, which
is
a lot better than sofia, it can do everything sofia can do and more,
it's thread-safe and performs well, I would love to see a mod_pjsip.
The library is GPL but they also offer alternative licensing, don't
get
me wrong, Sofia is great but I think FreeSWITCH will benefit from a
thread-safe SIP library.
don't say that i need some stuf for free, but we need to make fs a
very
also we love freeswitch to run in a Embedded PC like the blackfin
CPU/boards, Pjsip is very good for Embedded SIP Devicesawesome Open
Source project
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:14 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Mod_pjsip Reply with quote

Michael S Collins wrote:
Quote:
I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If it was/
is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact that it
isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't suitable
for FS at this time.

-MV

Sent from my iPhone

We already mentioned some of the reasons why it did get dropped 3 years ago
(first two points from memory, last two from old IRC logs):


[License incompatible (GPL), but i think tony tried to negotiate on alternate license terms]

Not possible to have multiple SIP profiles (due to global variables being used in the lib).

A race-condition under high load, that couldn't be resolved back then (with the help of the pjsip developers).

And the sofia module "just working" and surviving the scalability tests, so all efforts were focussed on
mod_sofia and pjsip got dropped.



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:53 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Mod_pjsip Reply with quote

hi,
Pjsip support ICE, STUN and TURN!
to STKN:
if you don't pjsip, please stop talking or exit the discution
we want to kype Freeswitch Clean and universal
Stefan Knoblich a écrit :
Quote:
Quote:
Michael S Collins wrote:
Quote:
I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If it was/
is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact that it
isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't suitable
for FS at this time.

-MV

Sent from my iPhone

We already mentioned some of the reasons why it did get dropped 3 years ago
(first two points from memory, last two from old IRC logs):


[License incompatible (GPL), but i think tony tried to negotiate on alternate license terms]

Not possible to have multiple SIP profiles (due to global variables being used in the lib).

A race-condition under high load, that couldn't be resolved back then (with the help of the pjsip developers).

And the sofia module "just working" and surviving the scalability tests, so all efforts were focussed on
mod_sofia and pjsip got dropped.



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:01 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Mod_pjsip Reply with quote

Meftah Tayeb wrote:
Quote:
hi,
Pjsip support ICE, STUN and TURN!
to STKN:
if you don't pjsip, please stop talking or exit the discution
we want to kype Freeswitch Clean and universal

Huh?

In which part did i tell people to stop doing whatever they want with pjsip?

In my last email or on IRC?

I'm merely pointing out the reasons why mod_pjsip was abandoned by the core team 3 years ago
(so some of the points may have been fixed in the meantime).

If somebody feels the need to resurrect it, well, please do.
But don't expect Tony or anyone else from the core team to do that for you.

This is OpenSource after all...


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:02 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Mod_pjsip Reply with quote

Meftah,

He is 100% correct.  Please do not insult my volunteer developers. Without help from him you would not have any FreeSWITCH right now so please drop this subject we are not using pjsip.



On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com (tayeb.meftah@gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
hi,
Pjsip support ICE, STUN and TURN!
to STKN:
if you don't pjsip, please stop talking or exit the discution
we want to kype Freeswitch Clean and universal
Stefan Knoblich a écrit :
Quote:

Quote:
Michael S Collins wrote:
Quote:
I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If it was/
is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact that it
isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't suitable
for FS at this time.

-MV

Sent from my iPhone

We already mentioned some of the reasons why it did get dropped 3 years ago
(first two points from memory, last two from old IRC logs):


[License incompatible (GPL), but i think tony tried to negotiate on alternate license terms]

Not possible to have multiple SIP profiles (due to global variables being used in the lib).

A race-condition under high load, that couldn't be resolved back then (with the help of the pjsip developers).

And the sofia module "just working" and surviving the scalability tests, so all efforts were focussed on
mod_sofia and pjsip got dropped.



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:16 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Mod_pjsip Reply with quote

hi Anthony
i agry
i say that because STKN hate all my suggestions.
about pjsip, i will contribute aditional module in the contrib.
thanks Anthony
Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Quote:
Meftah,

He is 100% correct. Please do not insult my volunteer developers. Without help from him you would not have any FreeSWITCH right now so please drop this subject we are not using pjsip.



On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com (tayeb.meftah@gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
hi,
Pjsip support ICE, STUN and TURN!
to STKN:
if you don't pjsip, please stop talking or exit the discution
we want to kype Freeswitch Clean and universal
Stefan Knoblich a écrit :
Quote:
Quote:
Michael S Collins wrote:
Quote:
I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If it was/
is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact that it
isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't suitable
for FS at this time.

-MV

Sent from my iPhone

We already mentioned some of the reasons why it did get dropped 3 years ago
(first two points from memory, last two from old IRC logs):


[License incompatible (GPL), but i think tony tried to negotiate on alternate license terms]

Not possible to have multiple SIP profiles (due to global variables being used in the lib).

A race-condition under high load, that couldn't be resolved back then (with the help of the pjsip developers).

And the sofia module "just working" and surviving the scalability tests, so all efforts were focussed on
mod_sofia and pjsip got dropped.



stkn

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:26 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Mod_pjsip Reply with quote

Meftah,
Feel free.

P.S.

STKN was the guy who made the first mod_pjsip for FS that we abandoned years ago. So you should believe him.
Both him and I agreed it was not working out.  So if you don't believe me, find out for yourself.




On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com (tayeb.meftah@gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
hi Anthony
i agry
i say that because STKN hate all my suggestions.
about pjsip, i will contribute aditional module in the contrib.
thanks Anthony
Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Quote:

Meftah,

He is 100% correct.  Please do not insult my volunteer developers. Without help from him you would not have any FreeSWITCH right now so please drop this subject we are not using pjsip.



On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com (tayeb.meftah@gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
hi,
Pjsip support ICE, STUN and TURN!
to STKN:
if you don't pjsip, please stop talking or exit the discution
we want to kype Freeswitch Clean and universal
Stefan Knoblich a écrit :
Quote:
Quote:
Michael S Collins wrote:
Quote:
I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If it was/
is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact that it
isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't suitable
for FS at this time.

-MV

Sent from my iPhone

We already mentioned some of the reasons why it did get dropped 3 years ago
(first two points from memory, last two from old IRC logs):


[License incompatible (GPL), but i think tony tried to negotiate on alternate license terms]

Not possible to have multiple SIP profiles (due to global variables being used in the lib).

A race-condition under high load, that couldn't be resolved back then (with the help of the pjsip developers).

And the sofia module "just working" and surviving the scalability tests, so all efforts were focussed on
mod_sofia and pjsip got dropped.



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:35 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Mod_pjsip Reply with quote

hello anthony
we are realy sory about this subject
"Ok, I apologize, I really love you and respect you, and I believe you"
i will drop it from now.
Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Quote:
Meftah,

He is 100% correct. Please do not insult my volunteer developers. Without help from him you would not have any FreeSWITCH right now so please drop this subject we are not using pjsip.



On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com (tayeb.meftah@gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
hi,
Pjsip support ICE, STUN and TURN!
to STKN:
if you don't pjsip, please stop talking or exit the discution
we want to kype Freeswitch Clean and universal
Stefan Knoblich a écrit :
Quote:
Quote:
Michael S Collins wrote:
Quote:
I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If it was/
is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact that it
isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't suitable
for FS at this time.

-MV

Sent from my iPhone

We already mentioned some of the reasons why it did get dropped 3 years ago
(first two points from memory, last two from old IRC logs):


[License incompatible (GPL), but i think tony tried to negotiate on alternate license terms]

Not possible to have multiple SIP profiles (due to global variables being used in the lib).

A race-condition under high load, that couldn't be resolved back then (with the help of the pjsip developers).

And the sofia module "just working" and surviving the scalability tests, so all efforts were focussed on
mod_sofia and pjsip got dropped.



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:40 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Mod_pjsip Reply with quote

Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Quote:
Meftah,
Feel free.
thanks
P.S.

STKN was the guy who made the first mod_pjsip for FS that we abandoned years ago. So you should believe him.
Both him and I agreed it was not working out. So if you don't believe me, find out for yourself.
anthony, why i don't believe you?
never say that.
i believe you and all Freeswitch Staf and thank you and to all Freeswitch Staf.
Quote:



On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com (tayeb.meftah@gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
hi Anthony
i agry
i say that because STKN hate all my suggestions.
about pjsip, i will contribute aditional module in the contrib.
thanks Anthony
Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Quote:
Meftah,

He is 100% correct. Please do not insult my volunteer developers. Without help from him you would not have any FreeSWITCH right now so please drop this subject we are not using pjsip.



On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com (tayeb.meftah@gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
hi,
Pjsip support ICE, STUN and TURN!
to STKN:
if you don't pjsip, please stop talking or exit the discution
we want to kype Freeswitch Clean and universal
Stefan Knoblich a écrit :
Quote:
Quote:
Michael S Collins wrote:
Quote:
I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If it was/
is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact that it
isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't suitable
for FS at this time.

-MV

Sent from my iPhone

We already mentioned some of the reasons why it did get dropped 3 years ago
(first two points from memory, last two from old IRC logs):


[License incompatible (GPL), but i think tony tried to negotiate on alternate license terms]

Not possible to have multiple SIP profiles (due to global variables being used in the lib).

A race-condition under high load, that couldn't be resolved back then (with the help of the pjsip developers).

And the sofia module "just working" and surviving the scalability tests, so all efforts were focussed on
mod_sofia and pjsip got dropped.



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:33 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Mod_pjsip Reply with quote

My favorite part of this 'civilized' discussion on IRC was when DelphiWord and
diegoviola sat around tryin to take the piss outta stkn on this issue for
seemingly no reason. Thanks for making the channel a cool place, guys ;)

On October 31, 2009 07:32:03 pm Meftah Tayeb wrote:
Quote:
Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Quote:
Meftah,
Feel free.

thanks

P.S.

STKN was the guy who made the first mod_pjsip for FS that we abandoned
years ago. So you should believe him.
Both him and I agreed it was not working out. So if you don't believe
me, find out for yourself.
anthony, why i don't believe you?

never say that.
i believe you and all Freeswitch Staf and thank you and to all
Freeswitch Staf.

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On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com
<mailto:tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>> wrote:

hi Anthony
i agry
i say that because STKN hate all my suggestions.
about pjsip, i will contribute aditional module in the contrib.
thanks Anthony

Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Quote:
Meftah,

He is 100% correct. Please do not insult my volunteer
developers. Without help from him you would not have any
FreeSWITCH right now so please drop this subject we are not using
pjsip.



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<tayeb.meftah@gmail.com <mailto:tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>> wrote:

hi,
Pjsip support ICE, STUN and TURN!
to STKN:
if you don't pjsip, please stop talking or exit the discution
we want to kype Freeswitch Clean and universal

Stefan Knoblich a écrit :
Quote:
Michael S Collins wrote:
Quote:
I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If
it was/ is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact
that it isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't
suitable for FS at this time.

-MV

Sent from my iPhone

We already mentioned some of the reasons why it did get
dropped 3 years ago (first two points from memory, last two
from old IRC logs): [License incompatible (GPL), but i think
tony tried to negotiate on alternate license terms] Not
possible to have multiple SIP profiles (due to global
variables being used in the lib). A race-condition under
high load, that couldn't be resolved back then (with the
help of the pjsip developers). And the sofia module "just
working" and surviving the scalability tests, so all efforts
were focussed on mod_sofia and pjsip got dropped. stkn
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:06 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Mod_pjsip Reply with quote

As the other reasons have already been covered about the history of
mod_pjsip, I'll just make a few comments here:

If someone is really interested in resurecting mod_pjsip, the code is
around here somewhere (although I can't find it on my quick look).
Just let us know.

The licensing is not really an issue, that was resolved long ago.

There is no major thread safety issue in sofia. There are some minor
issues which we easily address in the module and an interest in thread
pooling, which would increase performance.

pjsip and sofia always performed quite similar to each other, they are
both quite good sip libraries

We had extensive thread safety and race condition issues in pjsip that
never got resolved while we were using it. It is quite possible they
have been fixed sense, but many months were spent trying to fix them
to no success.

We already support ice in the freeswitch rtp stack. A sip stack
supporting ice and turn does little for us and would be the worst way
to implement it in freeswitch. Sofia already supports sdp parsing for
all of this, if you are interested in ICE/TURN support in freeswitch,
it needs to be done in the RTP stack mostly, regardless of which sip
stack.

Sofia has been shown to run well already in embedded environments.

Mike

On Oct 31, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Meftah Tayeb wrote:

Quote:
Hi my FreeSWITCH friends
Today we talked about FreeSWITCH libraries and we found pjsip, which
is
a lot better than sofia, it can do everything sofia can do and more,
it's thread-safe and performs well, I would love to see a mod_pjsip.
The library is GPL but they also offer alternative licensing, don't
get
me wrong, Sofia is great but I think FreeSWITCH will benefit from a
thread-safe SIP library.
don't say that i need some stuf for free, but we need to make fs a
very
also we love freeswitch to run in a Embedded PC like the blackfin
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:45 am    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Mod_pjsip Reply with quote

Don't put me on the same leval as DelphiWorld please, I was just
curious about how this SIP stack compares to sofia.

Diego

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Quote:
My favorite part of this 'civilized' discussion on IRC was when DelphiWord and
diegoviola sat around tryin to take the piss outta stkn on this issue for
seemingly no reason. Thanks for making the channel a cool place, guys Wink

On October 31, 2009 07:32:03 pm Meftah Tayeb wrote:
Quote:
Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Quote:
Meftah,
Feel free.

thanks

P.S.

STKN was the guy who made the first mod_pjsip for FS that we abandoned
years ago. So you should believe him.
Both him and I agreed it was not working out.  So if you don't believe
me, find out for yourself.
anthony, why i don't believe  you?

never say that.
i believe you and all Freeswitch Staf and thank you and to all
Freeswitch Staf.

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<mailto:tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>> wrote:

    hi Anthony
    i agry
    i say that because STKN hate all my suggestions.
    about pjsip, i will contribute aditional module in the contrib.
    thanks Anthony

    Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Quote:
    Meftah,

    He is 100% correct.  Please do not insult my volunteer
    developers. Without help from him you would not have any
    FreeSWITCH right now so please drop this subject we are not using
    pjsip.



    On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Meftah Tayeb
    <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com <mailto:tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>> wrote:

        hi,
        Pjsip support ICE, STUN and TURN!
        to STKN:
        if you don't pjsip, please stop talking or exit the discution
        we want to kype Freeswitch Clean and universal

        Stefan Knoblich a écrit :
Quote:
        Michael S Collins wrote:
Quote:
        I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If
it was/ is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact
that it isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't
suitable for FS at this time.

        -MV

        Sent from my iPhone

        We already mentioned some of the reasons why it did get
        dropped 3 years ago (first two points from memory, last two
        from old IRC logs): [License incompatible (GPL), but i think
        tony tried to negotiate on alternate license terms] Not
        possible to have multiple SIP profiles (due to global
        variables being used in the lib). A race-condition under
        high load, that couldn't be resolved back then (with the
        help of the pjsip developers). And the sofia module "just
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:15 am    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Mod_pjsip Reply with quote

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Don't put me on the same leval as DelphiWorld please, I was just
curious about how this SIP stack compares to sofia.

Smile Diego, smile. We're all just jocking! Smile

-gm


Quote:

Diego

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Chris Burns <chris@cloudtel.com> wrote:
Quote:
My favorite part of this 'civilized' discussion on IRC was when DelphiWord and
diegoviola sat around tryin to take the piss outta stkn on this issue for
seemingly no reason. Thanks for making the channel a cool place, guys Wink

On October 31, 2009 07:32:03 pm Meftah Tayeb wrote:
Quote:
Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Quote:
Meftah,
Feel free.

thanks

P.S.

STKN was the guy who made the first mod_pjsip for FS that we abandoned
years ago. So you should believe him.
Both him and I agreed it was not working out.  So if you don't believe
me, find out for yourself.
anthony, why i don't believe  you?

never say that.
i believe you and all Freeswitch Staf and thank you and to all
Freeswitch Staf.

Quote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com
<mailto:tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>> wrote:

    hi Anthony
    i agry
    i say that because STKN hate all my suggestions.
    about pjsip, i will contribute aditional module in the contrib.
    thanks Anthony

    Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Quote:
    Meftah,

    He is 100% correct.  Please do not insult my volunteer
    developers. Without help from him you would not have any
    FreeSWITCH right now so please drop this subject we are not using
    pjsip.



    On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Meftah Tayeb
    <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com <mailto:tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>> wrote:

        hi,
        Pjsip support ICE, STUN and TURN!
        to STKN:
        if you don't pjsip, please stop talking or exit the discution
        we want to kype Freeswitch Clean and universal

        Stefan Knoblich a écrit :
Quote:
        Michael S Collins wrote:
Quote:
        I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If
it was/ is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact
that it isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't
suitable for FS at this time.

        -MV

        Sent from my iPhone

        We already mentioned some of the reasons why it did get
        dropped 3 years ago (first two points from memory, last two
        from old IRC logs): [License incompatible (GPL), but i think
        tony tried to negotiate on alternate license terms] Not
        possible to have multiple SIP profiles (due to global
        variables being used in the lib). A race-condition under
        high load, that couldn't be resolved back then (with the
        help of the pjsip developers). And the sofia module "just
        working" and surviving the scalability tests, so all efforts
        were focussed on mod_sofia and pjsip got dropped. stkn
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