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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:39 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Druid Open Source Edition Reply with quote

That is silly. Why are you locked into their entire IDS, disro, settings.....?

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Joshua Wilson <jwilson at reel-flix.com> wrote:
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You need to download and install the system from the iso image. This puts
everything into place on the system.



On 3/14/08, Jeff Johnson <jjohnson at neturallyspeaking.com> wrote:
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I downloaded Druid from the svn, but can't seem top get the install.pl
to run. It appears that the svn is assuming that Asterisk is already
installed. Any help would be appreciated.

Jeff


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[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Totaro
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:00 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Druid Open Source Edition


On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Joshua Wilson <jwilson at reel-flix.com>
wrote:
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I have recently noticed that druid @ http://www.voiceroute.org has
created
Quote:
an open source edition of their platform. I downloaded it today and
installed it on a play system where I have about 20 ip phones ranging
from
Quote:
cisco, polycom and aastra phones. I didn't even have to configure them
as
Quote:
the system automatically did it for me. I have been using
trixbox/freepbx
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combination for over that last year and I will now be making the
switch to
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druid. It came with a user portal that was easy to use and had alot of
great
Quote:
features. Has anyone downloaded this system today?? Can you please let
me
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know what you think as well.

-Josh


I would but the download link is not working.

Thanks,
Steve

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:07 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Druid Open Source Edition Reply with quote

On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 12:36:12PM -0600, Joshua Wilson wrote:
Quote:
It is the same whether you are using trixbox, switchbox, pbxware or any
other system roughly. You have to use their system. Sometimes, this is the
only way to make sure everything they support is installed and integrated
properly without problems.

The code is there. Unlike all the distributions you have mentioned
above, it contains no propritary components. Thus someone might want to
re-integrate the same components on a different platform.

Lots of work, sure. But so is building a free software PBX from scratch.
I tend to give the benefit of the doubt to those who attempt to do such
things Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:27 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Druid Open Source Edition Reply with quote

Joshua Wilson wrote:
Quote:
It is the same whether you are using trixbox, switchbox, pbxware or any
other system roughly. You have to use their system. Sometimes, this is
the only way to make sure everything they support is installed and
integrated properly without problems.


Hi Joshua,

PBXware has tarball delivery method allowing you to use whatever Linux
distro you choose. This was actually its very first delivery method
before CD, appliance of VPSes.
Regards,

Senad
www.bicomsystems.com
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Druid Open Source Edition Reply with quote

On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Senad Jordanovic <senad at bicom.us> wrote:
Quote:
Joshua Wilson wrote:
Quote:
It is the same whether you are using trixbox, switchbox, pbxware or any
other system roughly. You have to use their system. Sometimes, this is
the only way to make sure everything they support is installed and
integrated properly without problems.


Hi Joshua,

PBXware has tarball delivery method allowing you to use whatever Linux
distro you choose. This was actually its very first delivery method
before CD, appliance of VPSes.


Regards,

Senad
www.bicomsystems.com

It's funny how Senad and Bicom show up in any GUI thread Wink

Anyways, I am assuming manual installation is possible but no
directions. I was able to chmod the install.pl and run it with
SetupAll, output is as follows:
[root at localhost trunk]# ./install.pl SetupAll
SetupAll

Adding appropriate asterisk files necessary for DRUID...DONE
Setting up Asterisk Manager for DRUID...DONE
Setting up Asterisk voicemail for use with DRUID...DONE
Setting up Druid specific extensions.conf additions...DONE
Setting up other Asterisk related operations...DONE
Setting up zaptel configuration...DONE
Setting setup for auto-provisioning...useradd: user druid exists
DONE
Setting up remaining configuration...DONE
Reloading asterisk...DONE!

I am assuming that the remaining directories need to be manually
placed in the proper location or symlinked or even reconfigure apache
(/admin for instance). Files in the /conf directory need to go in
/etc/asterisk/.

[root at localhost conf]# ls
dialpattern.conf druid_exten.conf druid_httpd.conf itsp.conf
druid_exten.ael druid_func_odbc.conf features.conf sudoers

PGSql.php

Just from a cursory look, if chmod the install.pl file, ./install.pl
SetupAll and drop the rest into your root HTML folder with the correct
permissions the only other thing you need besides apache is Postgres.

I don't have time to figure it right out now, but it is pretty clear
that the ISO is not required, just a little experimenting (and the
eventual documentation if someone gets around to it).

Thanks,
Steve Totaro
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:00 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Druid Open Source Edition Reply with quote

Steve Totaro wrote:
Quote:
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Senad Jordanovic <senad at bicom.us> wrote:
Quote:
Joshua Wilson wrote:
Quote:
It is the same whether you are using trixbox, switchbox, pbxware or any
other system roughly. You have to use their system. Sometimes, this is
the only way to make sure everything they support is installed and
integrated properly without problems.


Hi Joshua,

PBXware has tarball delivery method allowing you to use whatever Linux
distro you choose. This was actually its very first delivery method
before CD, appliance of VPSes.


Regards,

Senad
www.bicomsystems.com

It's funny how Senad and Bicom show up in any GUI thread Wink

Absolutely. It also hopefully shows how dedicated we are at what we do.

Senad
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:43 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Druid Open Source Edition Reply with quote

On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Senad Jordanovic <senad at bicom.us> wrote:
Quote:
Steve Totaro wrote:
Quote:
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Senad Jordanovic <senad at bicom.us> wrote:
Quote:
Joshua Wilson wrote:
Quote:
It is the same whether you are using trixbox, switchbox, pbxware or any
other system roughly. You have to use their system. Sometimes, this is
the only way to make sure everything they support is installed and
integrated properly without problems.


Hi Joshua,

PBXware has tarball delivery method allowing you to use whatever Linux
distro you choose. This was actually its very first delivery method
before CD, appliance of VPSes.


Regards,

Senad
www.bicomsystems.com

It's funny how Senad and Bicom show up in any GUI thread Wink

Absolutely. It also hopefully shows how dedicated we are at what we do.

Senad


That, and you like to hijack threads.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:23 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Druid Open Source Edition Reply with quote

Steve Totaro wrote:
Quote:
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Senad Jordanovic <senad at bicom.us> wrote:
Quote:
Steve Totaro wrote:
Quote:
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Senad Jordanovic <senad at bicom.us> wrote:
Quote:
Joshua Wilson wrote:
Quote:
It is the same whether you are using trixbox, switchbox, pbxware or any
other system roughly. You have to use their system. Sometimes, this is
the only way to make sure everything they support is installed and
integrated properly without problems.


Hi Joshua,

PBXware has tarball delivery method allowing you to use whatever Linux
distro you choose. This was actually its very first delivery method
before CD, appliance of VPSes.


Regards,

Senad
www.bicomsystems.com

It's funny how Senad and Bicom show up in any GUI thread Wink

Absolutely. It also hopefully shows how dedicated we are at what we do.

Senad


That, and you like to hijack threads.

When someone mentions PBXware, as it is the very first ever GUI for
asterisk or it is related to feature/function it is just normal for
someone to comment.

While we are on subject of Druid... Look at Druids trunks administration
fields, you will find remarkable similarities in trunks administration
with PBXware... (this is the last time I bothered to look)

I wonder why? Smile

Senad
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:25 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Druid Open Source Edition Reply with quote

On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Senad Jordanovic <senad at bicom.us> wrote:
Quote:

Steve Totaro wrote:
Quote:
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Senad Jordanovic <senad at bicom.us> wrote:
Quote:
Steve Totaro wrote:
Quote:
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Senad Jordanovic <senad at bicom.us> wrote:
Quote:
Joshua Wilson wrote:
Quote:
It is the same whether you are using trixbox, switchbox, pbxware or any
other system roughly. You have to use their system. Sometimes, this is
the only way to make sure everything they support is installed and
integrated properly without problems.


Hi Joshua,

PBXware has tarball delivery method allowing you to use whatever Linux
distro you choose. This was actually its very first delivery method
before CD, appliance of VPSes.


Regards,

Senad
www.bicomsystems.com

It's funny how Senad and Bicom show up in any GUI thread Wink

Absolutely. It also hopefully shows how dedicated we are at what we do.

Senad


That, and you like to hijack threads.

When someone mentions PBXware, as it is the very first ever GUI for
asterisk or it is related to feature/function it is just normal for
someone to comment.

While we are on subject of Druid... Look at Druids trunks administration
fields, you will find remarkable similarities in trunks administration
with PBXware... (this is the last time I bothered to look)

I wonder why? Smile



Senad
Yes, but this Druid is "Opensource" and PBXware is not (this is the
last time I bothered to look).

Since the *entire* subject IS Druid (Druid Open Source Edition), if I
were going to design a GUI at this point, I would take all the
strongest parts of each GUI. It only makes sense. Many different
people would say, "hey that looks remarkably like our reporting,
provisioning, trunk, CRM integration.... "

Thanks,
Steve Totaro
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:39 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Druid Open Source Edition Reply with quote

Quote:
Quote:
While we are on subject of Druid... Look at Druids trunks administration
fields, you will find remarkable similarities in trunks administration
with PBXware... (this is the last time I bothered to look)

I wonder why? Smile



Senad


Yes, but this Druid is "Opensource" and PBXware is not (this is the
last time I bothered to look).

Since the *entire* subject IS Druid (Druid Open Source Edition), if I
were going to design a GUI at this point, I would take all the
strongest parts of each GUI. It only makes sense. Many different
people would say, "hey that looks remarkably like our reporting,
provisioning, trunk, CRM integration.... "


So you are saying that is OK to ignore IP (intellectual property)?

Senad
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:56 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Druid Open Source Edition Reply with quote

Ok guys - this conversation has steered off into an unproductive area of
conversation.

Take it off line or to your lawyers if either of you think you have a
leg to stand on but you don't need to share it with the rest of the
group as you are both earning bad karma here.



Regards,

Dean Collins
Cognation Pty Ltd
dean at cognation.net
+1-212-203-4357
+61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).
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-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-
bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Senad Jordanovic
Sent: Monday, 17 March 2008 7:39 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Druid Open Source Edition


Quote:
Quote:
While we are on subject of Druid... Look at Druids trunks
administration
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
fields, you will find remarkable similarities in trunks
administration
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
with PBXware... (this is the last time I bothered to look)

I wonder why? Smile



Senad


Yes, but this Druid is "Opensource" and PBXware is not (this is the
last time I bothered to look).

Since the *entire* subject IS Druid (Druid Open Source Edition), if
I
Quote:
Quote:
were going to design a GUI at this point, I would take all the
strongest parts of each GUI. It only makes sense. Many different
people would say, "hey that looks remarkably like our reporting,
provisioning, trunk, CRM integration.... "


So you are saying that is OK to ignore IP (intellectual property)?

Senad

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:18 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Druid Open Source Edition Reply with quote

Outback Dingo wrote:
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this I definatley concur

Sure no problem. I have no problem with that.

Steve do you want to continue of the pitch?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:58 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Druid Open Source Edition Reply with quote

No pitch here. It is you making the sales pitch.

This is the "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion"
list which you and Dean repeatedly use for commercial purposes.

To get back on track, this is a little more complicated to get working
on other distros than I previously thought.

I am able to get the GUI to a page that says "Upgrade Druid" but it
always fails with "Upgrade database failed for version 1.0.0-1. I
cannot find anything in any logs as to why.

I am still playing with postgres and trying to see what scripts in the
RPMs setup the DB and populate it. So far
druid-psql-2.0.0.3.noarch.rpm and
druid-release-5-1.0.el5.centos.1.i386.rpm is all I have been able to
find. One just creates the DB and the other inserts the CDR table
into the asterisk DB.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Senad Jordanovic <senad at bicom.us> wrote:
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Outback Dingo wrote:
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this I definatley concur

Sure no problem. I have no problem with that.

Steve do you want to continue of the pitch?





Senad

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:09 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Druid Open Source Edition Reply with quote

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Steve Totaro wrote:
Quote:
To get back on track, this is a little more complicated to get working
on other distros than I previously thought.

I am able to get the GUI to a page that says "Upgrade Druid" but it
always fails with "Upgrade database failed for version 1.0.0-1. I
cannot find anything in any logs as to why.

I am still playing with postgres and trying to see what scripts in the
RPMs setup the DB and populate it. So far
druid-psql-2.0.0.3.noarch.rpm and
druid-release-5-1.0.el5.centos.1.i386.rpm is all I have been able to
find. One just creates the DB and the other inserts the CDR table
into the asterisk DB.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

Steve - I got to the same place.
Except I don't want to use Postgres.
Played around with mysql-ing it but I couldn't find the DB info.
Then I noticed how all the asterisk files/directorys had been 777'ed.

I got rid of it.

Brett
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:19 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Druid Open Source Edition Reply with quote

Steve Totaro wrote:
Quote:
No pitch here. It is you making the sales pitch.

This is the "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion"
list which you and Dean repeatedly use for commercial purposes.

I have stayed away and declared will not continue on this subject any
further as other members expressed their concern. I have even invited
you to take up the matter outside the "pitch". The "sport" pitch dear
Steve (soccer for example)...

You chose to ignore it for whatever reason ticks you not to be!!! That
SHOWS a lot about you.

Should you choose to reply further, I will ignore your posts to allow
you to SHOW your self further.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:20 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Druid Open Source Edition Reply with quote

On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Brett Crapser <brett at websmyths.com> wrote:
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Then I noticed how all the asterisk files/directorys had been 777'ed.

Ouch - I think I'll pass as well.

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