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 Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:59 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] AstriDevCon 2014:Agenda item Deprecate AMI/ |
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| Quote: | From: Paul Albrecht <palbrecht@glccom.com>
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| Quote: | Seems like now is as good a time as any to raise these issues, in
fact, sooner is better than later because once developers start down
a path it’s very difficult to get them change their minds no matter
how much sense it makes. The fact that developers are even
considering taking away user functionality like the dial plan is in
of itself a very serious problem because it demonstrates they don’t
see Asterisk from the user perspective.
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| Quote: | Don’t object to extending the Asterisk user interface or changing
Asterisk internals. Do object to is taking away functionality that
users expect, are familiar with, and has made the Asterisk project successful.
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| Quote: | Then your experience is atypical. Asterisk has been unstable for
several years as developers have continually shoveled new features
into the code base over several releases. That’s not necessary
objectionable, it’s even to be expected; however, at some point
developers need to turn their attention to less glamorous less
exciting things like stability and performance.
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I don't think anyone is objecting to you bringing this up, as it has been mentioned at the dev con. Perhaps it is just that the tone doesn't come across properly in an email, but you are coming across as confrontational and alarmist and it seems to be setting people on edge. Matt has already chimed in that he doesn't see how it would be possible to deprecate the dial plan at this time and even if it were possible, the process would take on the order of years, giving you plenty of time to enact any contingency plans you might need. Scott G. from Digium even posited that if it were to be removed from the core, it would likely end up as a loadable module so that it wouldn't burden those who don't need it and could be loaded for those who do.
These developers do not exist in a vacuum, nor do they have total control over where Asterisk goes. Influence, sure, but there is still a corporate structure out there that finds it necessary to be customer oriented. They would have to be monumentally stupid (something which I haven't seen previous evidence of) to kill off the dial plan without providing a path forward for those who depend on it. Furthermore, even if they did pull a stunt so bad as to alienate half their users, the open source code would be forked so fast as to make your head spin or people would migrate to other similar packages (Freeswitch comes to mind). Digium sells their own PBX hardware that I am sure depends on these technologies that you are afraid will go away. They have direct skin in this game too.
I would be interested to know just how atypical my experience is. I have found that on my 1.6 systems I would have random crashes over time. After upgrading over multiple sites, my 11.x systems have been rock solid for the most part. I did have a case where I did a store and forward of a fax that if I tried to forward the fax and it had no file to forward would cause a crash, but other than that, I haven't seen any problems in normal day to day usage. I always thought that the general consensus was that the 11.x series was quite a bit more stable than the older versions.
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