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mroth at imminc.com
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 Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:38 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Enterprise or Fedora? |
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love U.all wrote:
| Quote: | i wanna build a production Asterisk box ,will RedHat Linux Enterprise
Server be more stable than Fedora core Linux or it makes no
significant difference
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I started out running Fedora, but I have migrated away from it for a few
reasons. Fedora has a very short life cycle and since the demise of the
legacy project there is no support for releases that are over a year
old. It is also considered a bleeding-edge distribution and is a
testing ground for new applications and features. As such, it has
frequent updates (including the kernel) that aren't guaranteed not to
break your system.
If stability and long-term support are your goals, I recommend taking a
look at CentOS <http://www.centos.org/>. It is a binary-compatible
clone of Red Hat Enterprise Linux that's free and has a very long
support period. It's basically RHEL without the paid support contract.
My migration to CentOS was painless, because the file system and
configuration are practically identical to those of Fedora.
Regards,
Matthew Roth
InterMedia Marketing Solutions
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milton at calnek.com
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:55 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Enterprise or Fedora? |
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Matthew J. Roth wrote:
| Quote: | love U.all wrote:
| Quote: | i wanna build a production Asterisk box ,will RedHat Linux Enterprise
Server be more stable than Fedora core Linux or it makes no
significant difference
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I started out running Fedora, but I have migrated away from it for a few
reasons. Fedora has a very short life cycle and since the demise of the
legacy project there is no support for releases that are over a year
old. It is also considered a bleeding-edge distribution and is a
testing ground for new applications and features. As such, it has
frequent updates (including the kernel) that aren't guaranteed not to
break your system.
If stability and long-term support are your goals, I recommend taking a
look at CentOS <http://www.centos.org/>. It is a binary-compatible
clone of Red Hat Enterprise Linux that's free and has a very long
support period. It's basically RHEL without the paid support contract.
My migration to CentOS was painless, because the file system and
configuration are practically identical to those of Fedora.
Regards,
Matthew Roth
InterMedia Marketing Solutions
Software Engineer and Systems Developer
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milton at calnek.com
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:58 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Enterprise or Fedora? |
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Matthew J. Roth wrote:
| Quote: | love U.all wrote:
| Quote: | i wanna build a production Asterisk box ,will RedHat Linux Enterprise
Server be more stable than Fedora core Linux or it makes no
significant difference
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I started out running Fedora, but I have migrated away from it for a few
reasons. Fedora has a very short life cycle and since the demise of the
legacy project there is no support for releases that are over a year
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I'd take it a step further... if you want asterisk on a stable platform,
I'd suggest trixbox. It is CentOS with an additional asterisk repo.
It also comes with several additional apps like SugarCRM and web based
management.
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lwatcdr at gmail.com
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:14 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Enterprise or Fedora? |
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We are using Fedora because that is what the company we got our system
from recommended.
If I was doing the system myself I would throw in my vote for CentOS.
I am using it for a database server and I have had no problems with it
at all. It is about as stable and secure of Linux distro as I have
ever used.
If you do go with them I suggest kicking the CentOS team a few
dollars. They do dang good work.
On Feb 1, 2008 9:16 AM, love U. all <the.love.4all at hotmail.com> wrote:
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mkezys at gmail.com
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:50 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Enterprise or Fedora? |
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My suggestion - use the distro which you know best.
We use Debian (200+ installations). It works stable for us because we know how to achieve it.
Others use Fedora/Centos - because they are experts in these systems.
Stability and performance of the system does not depend on the distro - only on person who built this system.
Regards,
Mindaugas Kezys
http://www.kolmisoft.com
MOR - Advanced Billing for Asterisk PBX
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Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 6:14 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Enterprise or Fedora?
We are using Fedora because that is what the company we got our system
from recommended.
If I was doing the system myself I would throw in my vote for CentOS.
I am using it for a database server and I have had no problems with it
at all. It is about as stable and secure of Linux distro as I have
ever used.
If you do go with them I suggest kicking the CentOS team a few
dollars. They do dang good work.
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i wanna build a production Asterisk box ,will RedHat Linux Enterprise
Server be more stable than Fedora core Linux or it makes no significant
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asterisk.org at sedwar...
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:47 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Enterprise or Fedora? |
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2008, Milton Calnek wrote:
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Matthew J. Roth wrote:
| Quote: | love U.all wrote:
| Quote: | i wanna build a production Asterisk box ,will RedHat Linux Enterprise
Server be more stable than Fedora core Linux or it makes no
significant difference
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I started out running Fedora, but I have migrated away from it for a few
reasons. Fedora has a very short life cycle and since the demise of the
legacy project there is no support for releases that are over a year
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I'd take it a step further... if you want asterisk on a stable platform,
I'd suggest trixbox. It is CentOS with an additional asterisk repo.
It also comes with several additional apps like SugarCRM and web based
management.
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But all that cruft is not always appropriate -- parts left out don't get
broke. They also don't need to be updated, suck up memory, cpu, disk or
get in the way of learning how Asterisk really works.
I like to start with a minimal CentOS install -- de-select everything and
then "yum install" just the packages you actually need.
Thanks in advance,
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tzafrir.cohen at xorco...
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:07 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Enterprise or Fedora? |
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On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 09:58:28AM -0600, Milton Calnek wrote:
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Matthew J. Roth wrote:
| Quote: | love U.all wrote:
| Quote: | i wanna build a production Asterisk box ,will RedHat Linux Enterprise
Server be more stable than Fedora core Linux or it makes no
significant difference
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I started out running Fedora, but I have migrated away from it for a few
reasons. Fedora has a very short life cycle and since the demise of the
legacy project there is no support for releases that are over a year
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I'd take it a step further... if you want asterisk on a stable platform,
I'd suggest trixbox. It is CentOS with an additional asterisk repo.
It also comes with several additional apps like SugarCRM and web based
management.
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I'm sorry, but Trixbox (CE) and its like are modified versions of
CentOS, and those modifications are not always so standard:
1. Many changes in /usr/local and such rather than in packages.
2. Kernel never gets updated. Even latest trixbox 2.2 versions are
shipped with kernel from CentOS 4.3. CentOS has issued many updates
since. Try to build your own kernel stuff on it.
3. It uses FreePBX, and this has its pros and cons. It is surely a
comlpicated system to start with. If you happen not to like it,
you're heading for much work in removing it.
So it's not simply "CentOS".
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shadowym at hotmail.com
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Enterprise or Fedora? |
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I cannot think of a single reason to use Fedora for a production anything
when there are alternatives like CentOS. Fedora is bleeding edge stuff and
constantly changing.
-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew J. Roth [mailto:mroth at imminc.com]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 7:39 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Enterprise or Fedora?
love U.all wrote:
| Quote: | i wanna build a production Asterisk box ,will RedHat Linux Enterprise
Server be more stable than Fedora core Linux or it makes no
significant difference
|
I started out running Fedora, but I have migrated away from it for a few
reasons. Fedora has a very short life cycle and since the demise of the
legacy project there is no support for releases that are over a year
old. It is also considered a bleeding-edge distribution and is a
testing ground for new applications and features. As such, it has
frequent updates (including the kernel) that aren't guaranteed not to
break your system.
If stability and long-term support are your goals, I recommend taking a
look at CentOS <http://www.centos.org/>. It is a binary-compatible
clone of Red Hat Enterprise Linux that's free and has a very long
support period. It's basically RHEL without the paid support contract.
My migration to CentOS was painless, because the file system and
configuration are practically identical to those of Fedora.
Regards,
Matthew Roth
InterMedia Marketing Solutions
Software Engineer and Systems Developer |
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benny+usenet at amorse...
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:53 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Enterprise or Fedora? |
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"shadowym" <shadowym at hotmail.com> writes:
| Quote: | I cannot think of a single reason to use Fedora for a production anything
when there are alternatives like CentOS. Fedora is bleeding edge stuff and
constantly changing.
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The advantage of Fedora is that it is very actively maintained -- and
asterisk is only a yum install asterisk away!
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shadowym at hotmail.com
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| Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:15 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Enterprise or Fedora? |
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Actively maintained or actively being broken and fixed with constant
updates? Not something suitable for Production IMHO. Makes more sense for
development and experimentation IMHO.
-----Original Message-----
From: Benny Amorsen [mailto:benny+usenet at amorsen.dk]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 1:54 PM
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Enterprise or Fedora?
"shadowym" <shadowym at hotmail.com> writes:
| Quote: | I cannot think of a single reason to use Fedora for a production anything
when there are alternatives like CentOS. Fedora is bleeding edge stuff
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| Quote: | constantly changing.
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The advantage of Fedora is that it is very actively maintained -- and
asterisk is only a yum install asterisk away!
/Benny |
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cesar at codinet.com.mx
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| Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Enterprise or Fedora? |
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Ubuntu server for me please
simply, is better...
install.
then activate universe and multiverse repositories
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
sudo apt-get build-dep asterisk
and then...
tar xvfz
./configure
make
make install
...
is very very easy and clean, and IMHO i guess is better SO Ubuntu than any other RHEL based distro...
IMHO RedHat sucks xP
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 03:59:47 +0530, "Jaswinder Singh" <vicky.r at gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I prefer CentOS barebone install and yumming the way up for dependencies
but
manually compile asterisk/zaptel . Ubuntu servers are pretty good too
since
its repositories are quite bigger compared to CentOS .
On Feb 2, 2008 11:45 PM, shadowym <shadowym at hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Actively maintained or actively being broken and fixed with constant
updates? Not something suitable for Production IMHO. Makes more sense
for
development and experimentation IMHO.
-----Original Message-----
From: Benny Amorsen [mailto:benny+usenet at amorsen.dk]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 1:54 PM
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Enterprise or Fedora?
"shadowym" <shadowym at hotmail.com> writes:
| Quote: | I cannot think of a single reason to use Fedora for a production
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anything
| Quote: | when there are alternatives like CentOS. Fedora is bleeding edge
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tzafrir.cohen at xorco...
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| Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:16 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Enterprise or Fedora? |
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On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 05:13:39PM -0600, cesar at codinet.com.mx wrote:
| Quote: | Ubuntu server for me please
simply, is better...
install.
then activate universe and multiverse repositories
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
sudo apt-get build-dep asterisk
and then...
tar xvfz
./configure
make
make install
...
is very very easy and clean, and IMHO i guess is better SO Ubuntu
than any other RHEL based distro...
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Mind you, asterisk is in the ubuntu universe (rather than main) archive.
As such, it also has some other dependencies in universe. Specifically
(looking at the current Hardy) package:
libc-client2007-dev
libiksemel-dev
libopenh323-dev
libpri-dev
libradiusclient-ng-dev
libtonezone-dev
libvpb-dev
zaptel-source
As a rule, the universe packages there get much less attention, and
don't necessarily get regular security updates.
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goksie at gmail.com
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:49 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Enterprise or Fedora? |
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Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
| Quote: | On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 05:13:39PM -0600, cesar at codinet.com.mx wrote:
| Quote: | Ubuntu server for me please
simply, is better...
install.
then activate universe and multiverse repositories
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
sudo apt-get build-dep asterisk
and then...
tar xvfz
./configure
make
make install
...
is very very easy and clean, and IMHO i guess is better SO Ubuntu
than any other RHEL based distro...
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Mind you, asterisk is in the ubuntu universe (rather than main) archive.
As such, it also has some other dependencies in universe. Specifically
(looking at the current Hardy) package:
libc-client2007-dev
libiksemel-dev
libopenh323-dev
libpri-dev
libradiusclient-ng-dev
libtonezone-dev
libvpb-dev
zaptel-source
As a rule, the universe packages there get much less attention, and
don't necessarily get regular security updates.
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i think, its matter of knowing what you want, I have been running FC5
with sangoma a104dx card for over a year, i have not experienced any
serious stress.
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a_hanley at optusnet.c...
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:08 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Enterprise or Fedora? |
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Hi All,
Just to throw in my 2 cents worth, I have been evaluating most of the
'big' distro's for my Asterisk platform and since I've used almost all
of them I kept the pre-requisites to these standard options.
1. Package management - easy to administer, easy to upgrade and include
development packages
2. System stability - Gotta be rock solid
3. Proprietary Code - It must be all open source
4. Standards Compliant
With a lot of testing, compiling and downloading I came to the
conclusion that the winner was Debian 'Etch'
Reason:
1. Apt - The best package management system ever.
2. Rock solid platform, my other Debian servers have been running for
years (and so have my CentOS servers so I'm not being biased)
3. The software is all open source.
4. I have a requirement for H323 in the vast majority of my asterisk
boxes and it compiles brilliantly with Etch
5. 1 CD install - The Net-Install CD makes things neat
6. Slow release cycle and easy upgrade to latest version once released.
CentOS came a very close second however it was the apt difference that
clinched it for Debian. I would have went Ubuntu instead of Debian
however the packages are not quite as concise and I'm still not sure on
the whole 'sudo' method of security, its great for a desktop but the
jury is still out on a server.
Regards,
Alan
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cesar at codinet.com.mx
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:36 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Enterprise or Fedora? |
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Oh, yes, asterisk is in universe, but i prefer apt-get build-dep asterisk
And then compile from current source, not the package in universe
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[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] En nombre de Tzafrir Cohen
Enviado el: S?bado, 02 de Febrero de 2008 06:17 p.m.
Para: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Asunto: Re: [asterisk-users] Enterprise or Fedora?
On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 05:13:39PM -0600, cesar at codinet.com.mx wrote:
| Quote: | Ubuntu server for me please
simply, is better...
install.
then activate universe and multiverse repositories
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
sudo apt-get build-dep asterisk
and then...
tar xvfz
./configure
make
make install
...
is very very easy and clean, and IMHO i guess is better SO Ubuntu
than any other RHEL based distro...
|
Mind you, asterisk is in the ubuntu universe (rather than main) archive.
As such, it also has some other dependencies in universe. Specifically
(looking at the current Hardy) package:
libc-client2007-dev
libiksemel-dev
libopenh323-dev
libpri-dev
libradiusclient-ng-dev
libtonezone-dev
libvpb-dev
zaptel-source
As a rule, the universe packages there get much less attention, and
don't necessarily get regular security updates.
--
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+972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com
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