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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:47 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] distributed sqlite Reply with quote

I was wondering if anyone is working on implementing in freeswitch support for dqlite https://github.com/canonical/dqlite to support a distributed freeswitch system for core database.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:16 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] distributed sqlite Reply with quote

Wouldn’t you just use a different RDBM backend at that point? 😂 Like, one that is designed for network connectivity and already has advanced replication?

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On Nov 1, 2020, at 7:49 PM, Abaci B <abaci64@gmail.com> wrote:

I was wondering if anyone is working on implementing in freeswitch support for dqlite https://github.com/canonical/dqlite to support a distributed freeswitch system for core database.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:43 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] distributed sqlite Reply with quote

Why? thats what things like PostgreSQL and MySQL are for

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On Nov 1, 2020, at 17:44, Abaci B <abaci64@gmail.com> wrote:

I was wondering if anyone is working on implementing in freeswitch support for dqlite https://github.com/canonical/dqlite to support a distributed freeswitch system for core database.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:29 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] distributed sqlite Reply with quote

The reason I would consider this over PostgreSQL or MySQL is the simplicity of setting it up, compared to setting up a proper replicated system with those databases. not that they don't have their uses but for setting up something like the core db of freeswitch I think something like dqlite makes sense.


On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 10:12 PM Ken Rice <krice@freeswitch.org (krice@freeswitch.org)> wrote:

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Why? thats what things like PostgreSQL and MySQL are for

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On Nov 1, 2020, at 17:44, Abaci B <abaci64@gmail.com (abaci64@gmail.com)> wrote:

I was wondering if anyone is working on implementing in freeswitch support for dqlite https://github.com/canonical/dqlite to support a distributed freeswitch system for core database.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:28 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] distributed sqlite Reply with quote

Simplicity will bite you if not careful.

On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 1:45 PM Abaci B <abaci64@gmail.com (abaci64@gmail.com)> wrote:

Quote:
The reason I would consider this over PostgreSQL or MySQL is the simplicity of setting it up, compared to setting up a proper replicated system with those databases. not that they don't have their uses but for setting up something like the core db of freeswitch I think something like dqlite makes sense.


On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 10:12 PM Ken Rice <krice@freeswitch.org (krice@freeswitch.org)> wrote:

Quote:
Why? thats what things like PostgreSQL and MySQL are for

Sent from my iPhone

Quote:
On Nov 1, 2020, at 17:44, Abaci B <abaci64@gmail.com (abaci64@gmail.com)> wrote:

I was wondering if anyone is working on implementing in freeswitch support for dqlite https://github.com/canonical/dqlite to support a distributed freeswitch system for core database.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:05 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] distributed sqlite Reply with quote

I totally understand that others may have different opinions about this, I just wanted to know if someone was already working on this as I was considering working on implementing it, based on the reactions it seems that even if I would implement dqlite, I would have a hard time getting it accepted by the core developers.


On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 4:45 PM Brian West <brian@freeswitch.com (brian@freeswitch.com)> wrote:

Quote:
Simplicity will bite you if not careful.

On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 1:45 PM Abaci B <abaci64@gmail.com (abaci64@gmail.com)> wrote:

Quote:
The reason I would consider this over PostgreSQL or MySQL is the simplicity of setting it up, compared to setting up a proper replicated system with those databases. not that they don't have their uses but for setting up something like the core db of freeswitch I think something like dqlite makes sense.


On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 10:12 PM Ken Rice <krice@freeswitch.org (krice@freeswitch.org)> wrote:

Quote:
Why? thats what things like PostgreSQL and MySQL are for

Sent from my iPhone

Quote:
On Nov 1, 2020, at 17:44, Abaci B <abaci64@gmail.com (abaci64@gmail.com)> wrote:

I was wondering if anyone is working on implementing in freeswitch support for dqlite https://github.com/canonical/dqlite to support a distributed freeswitch system for core database.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:45 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] distributed sqlite Reply with quote

If its just distributed sqlite the question becomes “just why”?  theres other scaling issues in sqlite like locking that even on a largely idle system cause DB select retries regularly. This isnt a FreeSWITCH Problem but  is a problem down deep in the sqlite code. This is why it is recommended that you go to an external DB where possible.

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Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] distributed sqlite


I totally understand that others may have different opinions about this, I just wanted to know if someone was already working on this as I was considering working on implementing it, based on the reactions it seems that even if I would implement dqlite, I would have a hard time getting it accepted by the core developers.


On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 4:45 PM Brian West <brian@freeswitch.com (brian@freeswitch.com)> wrote:
Quote:

Simplicity will bite you if not careful.


On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 1:45 PM Abaci B <abaci64@gmail.com (abaci64@gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:

The reason I would consider this over PostgreSQL or MySQL is the simplicity of setting it up, compared to setting up a proper replicated system with those databases. not that they don't have their uses but for setting up something like the core db of freeswitch I think something like dqlite makes sense.


On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 10:12 PM Ken Rice <krice@freeswitch.org (krice@freeswitch.org)> wrote:
Quote:

Why? thats what things like PostgreSQL and MySQL are for
Sent from my iPhone



Quote:

On Nov 1, 2020, at 17:44, Abaci B <abaci64@gmail.com (abaci64@gmail.com)> wrote:

I was wondering if anyone is working on implementing in freeswitch support for dqlite https://github.com/canonical/dqlite to support a distributed freeswitch system for core database.


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