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[gincantalupo at fgasof...]

Hi,
Digium stopped to produce TDM400P and the new TDM410 is too new to find
it in our shops. The only alternative available is a "fully-compatible"
Openvox product...but is it really "fully-compatible"? Any experience
about Openvox products (card and zaptel versions, etc...)?

Thank you!

Giorgio.

[kpfleming at digium.com]

Giorgio Incantalupo wrote:

[stotaro at totarotechn...]

Sangoma makes a good card.

On 2/15/08, Kevin P. Fleming <kpfleming at digium.com> wrote:

[stotaro at totarotechn...]

It is fairly easy on a fresh install since the Sangoma ./Setup install
script can create all three configuration files for you.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Rob Hillis <rob at hillis.dyndns.org> wrote:

[jfinstrom at rhinoequi...]

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I would say email Kevin what he asked. The problem with switching to a
clone company is you get what you pay for. Sticking with Digium you at
least have support. and 3 clone cards and hours of troubleshooting
later you will wish you hadn't been all cheap.

Rob Hillis wrote:

[jfinstrom at rhinoequi...]

Steve,
Yes I work for Rhino that is no
Secret. If you read the post I was responding to the thread not pimping my own products. I am not sure if your a Sangoma fanboy or employee since you are apparently offended by my response, however he wasn't asking to be sold to he was asking about specific products. So there it is yes I work for Rhino and I could have easily given one of our italian distributors but he didn't ask for that. It is not appropriate to troll the list and push your products unsolicited. If someone is looking for a recommendation for a card brand fine. If they need a solution like ADID or they need to accommodate funky CPC signals from their telco which Rhino does fine it is on subject. If someone asks should I use openvox to replace my digium you don't pimp your product because it wasn't asked for. If you want my honest opinion. I prefer people use Rhino products. I believe our products and support are superior but if you don't use our cards use Digium. If your reply is any indication on how Sandoma works I can honestly say go use a cheap clone before sangomaN they may not support you but at least they are open about being here just for the money.
James Finstrom
Rhino Equipment Corp.
http://www.rhinoequipment.com

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From: Steve Totaro <stotaro at mail.schoffstall.com>

Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:45:50
To:Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion<asterisk-users at lists.digium.com>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Digium stopped TDM400P production: alternatives??
James,

If you were replying to the original post about Openvox or specified
that is what you were referring to, maybe I would not take issue but to
reply to a suggesting to use Sangoma with what you did is absolutely
misleading. There is nothing "cheap" or "clone" about Sangoma's cards.

"asterisk.rhinoequipment.com" hmmmmm.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

James Finstrom wrote:

[stotaro at totarotechn...]

James,

Huh? Trying to understand your rambling reply....

I just like Sangoma because they "just work" and have excellent
support, I have no affiliation with them except being a very happy
customer.

You get what you pay for right? I also think Adtran or Adit are great
products. Not sure about Rhino especially after your irrational
response.

Some spokesman, I will stick with Adtran and Adit, not some cheap knock-off.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 9:36 AM, James Finstrom
<jfinstrom at rhinoequipment.com> wrote:

[jfinstrom at rhinoequi...]

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Enough Said

Buy Digium, or Rhino, or a Knock off but avoid the witch doctor....

Steve Totaro wrote:

[Guest]

There are some tdm400 cards on ebay, http://search.ebay.com/tdm400

Moj

Giorgio Incantalupo wrote:

[asterisk-users at list...]

You are kidding, right ???

A small user that just buys one card won't get a good support from
Digium. It'll be just a waste of time on the phone.

Practically any manufacturer gives similar support including ssh'ing
in the users box.

Right now they push the user to buy a 4 channel echo canceller which
you can get from Octasic for $40. The card with 4 ports is retail
around $640.

You can get OpenVox or another brand TDM400P compatible for 1/3 of
that + $40 for echo canceller. Now that's a Digium high marigin right there
.. someone has to pay the CEO salary and the mortgage for a
new building

cheers

On 2/15/08, James Finstrom <jfinstrom at rhinoequipment.com> wrote:

[tilghman at mail.jeffa...]

On Friday 15 February 2008 23:53:19 asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
wrote:

[ira at extrasensory.com]

At 11:07 PM 2/15/2008, you wrote:

[stotaro at totarotechn...]

I am looking to do just this. An unbiased comparison of hardware.
And as much as possible, an unbiased comparison of support.

I would like assistance in this regard. I would need help with
unbiased testing methodology.

I have already had two companies contact me directly offering hardware
to use for testing. Any and all manufacturers are welcome to
participate.

I figure with the help of someone (a respected community member) who
knows how to implement objective testing methods, and sticking to
those detailed and public methods, we can publish some real
comparisons.

I know that I may be regarded as a "Sangoma Fanboy" but I think an
unbiased head to head comparison could easily be achieved if all
testing methods are neutral, documented, public, and strictly adhered
to and done in conjunction with someone who has good testing methods
and is truly vendor neutral.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Feb 15, 2008 10:21 PM, shadowym <shadowym at hotmail.com> wrote: