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I'm trying to avoid using loopback in my dialplan - I'm getting calls which are hard to clear and track.


I'm doing conference dial loopback/99997 where 99997 in the default dialplan joins a second conference.


Has anyone had any success with alternatives to loopback? I want to listen to one conference from another.

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Depends, what are you trying to do that requires you to use loopback in the
first place?

On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 11:25 AM Support from NetworkedAudio LLC <
support@naud.io> wrote:

[support at naud.io]

I want to dial into one conference from another conference.


I followed https://lists.freeswitch.org/pipermail/freeswitch-dev/2011-March/004754.html in which Michael Collins suggested loopback to join two conferences when none of the other suggestions worked.






Depends, what are you trying to do that requires you to use loopback in the first place?

On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 11:25 AM Support from NetworkedAudio LLC <support@naud.io (support@naud.io)> wrote:

[botelist at gmail.com]

I wonder if you could send a Shoutcast stream from the target conference and use that as the "perpetual-sound" for the listen-only conference?

From ${conf_dir}/autoload_configs/conference.conf.xml
<!-- <param name="perpetual-sound" value="perpetual.wav"/> -->

You could set up Icecast server on the first machine and just listen to localhost/conference-mount-point.

Crazy idea that just might work.

John Boteler
Bote Communications




From: FreeSWITCH-users <freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org> On Behalf Of Support from NetworkedAudio LLC
Sent: Thursday, 24 March, 2022 17:12
To: Brian West <brian@freeswitch.com>; FreeSWITCH Users Help <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org>
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Alternatives to Loopback



I want to dial into one conference from another conference.



I followed https://lists.freeswitch.org/pipermail/freeswitch-dev/2011-March/004754.html in which Michael Collins suggested loopback to join two conferences when none of the other suggestions worked.







Depends, what are you trying to do that requires you to use loopback in the first place?


On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 11:25 AM Support from NetworkedAudio LLC <support@naud.io (support@naud.io)> wrote:

[support at naud.io]

I like it. Having a hard time using one channel out of 128 PortAudio streams for a different application. Will do some research.


I'm trying to set up 127.0.0.1 as a new SOFIA gateway and loop it that way but that feels wrong.


Seems like I'm missing something - was assuming that adding audio to a whole load of non-user endpoints was possible.


Thank you for taking the time to suggest.

From: FreeSWITCH-users <freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org> on behalf of Bote Man <botelist@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 8:10 PM
To: 'FreeSWITCH Users Help' <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org>
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Alternatives to Loopback


I wonder if you could send a Shoutcast stream from the target conference and use that as the "perpetual-sound" for the listen-only conference?

From ${conf_dir}/autoload_configs/conference.conf.xml
<!-- <param name="perpetual-sound" value="perpetual.wav"/> -->

You could set up Icecast server on the first machine and just listen to localhost/conference-mount-point.

Crazy idea that just might work.

John Boteler
Bote Communications




From: FreeSWITCH-users <freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org> On Behalf Of Support from NetworkedAudio LLC
Sent: Thursday, 24 March, 2022 17:12
To: Brian West <brian@freeswitch.com>; FreeSWITCH Users Help <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org>
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Alternatives to Loopback



I want to dial into one conference from another conference.



I followed https://lists.freeswitch.org/pipermail/freeswitch-dev/2011-March/004754.html in which Michael Collins suggested loopback to join two conferences when none of the other suggestions worked.







Depends, what are you trying to do that requires you to use loopback in the first place?


On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 11:25 AM Support from NetworkedAudio LLC <support@naud.io (support@naud.io)> wrote:

[botelist at gmail.com]

Each sofia profile mimics a line key on a traditional key phone. I don’t think that will get you what you want, though.

The playing sound part is doable, but when you throw in the requirement that the audio follows them all over the switch as they transition to different call states…that’s just weird. It’s like music on hold that never goes away, and who wants that?

Try the Shoutcast/Icecast thing, that is designed for one-to-many sound distribution.

Best wishes.

Bote


From: FreeSWITCH-users <freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org> On Behalf Of Support from NetworkedAudio LLC
Sent: Thursday, 24 March, 2022 21:57
To: 'FreeSWITCH Users Help' <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org>
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Alternatives to Loopback



I like it. Having a hard time using one channel out of 128 PortAudio streams for a different application. Will do some research.



I'm trying to set up 127.0.0.1 as a new SOFIA gateway and loop it that way but that feels wrong.



Seems like I'm missing something - was assuming that adding audio to a whole load of non-user endpoints was possible.



Thank you for taking the time to suggest.


From: FreeSWITCH-users <freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org (freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org)> on behalf of Bote Man <botelist@gmail.com (botelist@gmail.com)>
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 8:10 PM
To: 'FreeSWITCH Users Help' <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org (freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org)>
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Alternatives to Loopback



I wonder if you could send a Shoutcast stream from the target conference and use that as the "perpetual-sound" for the listen-only conference?

From ${conf_dir}/autoload_configs/conference.conf.xml
<!-- <param name="perpetual-sound" value="perpetual.wav"/> -->

You could set up Icecast server on the first machine and just listen to localhost/conference-mount-point.

Crazy idea that just might work.

John Boteler
Bote Communications




From: FreeSWITCH-users <freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org (freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org)> On Behalf Of Support from NetworkedAudio LLC
Sent: Thursday, 24 March, 2022 17:12
To: Brian West <brian@freeswitch.com (brian@freeswitch.com)>; FreeSWITCH Users Help <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org (freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org)>
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Alternatives to Loopback



I want to dial into one conference from another conference.



I followed https://lists.freeswitch.org/pipermail/freeswitch-dev/2011-March/004754.html in which Michael Collins suggested loopback to join two conferences when none of the other suggestions worked.







Depends, what are you trying to do that requires you to use loopback in the first place?


On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 11:25 AM Support from NetworkedAudio LLC <support@naud.io (support@naud.io)> wrote:

[support at naud.io]

Agreed. I set up a gateway pointing to 127.0.0.1. This ended up giving me an outbound call which came back to an inbound call, so just loopback with extra steps.


Set up Icecast via local_stream and that sounds fine. Conference members can talk and get mixed with the stream, so far, so good.


Unless there are any tricks I'm going to need to modify the source to add a new conference member flag called noperpetual - when an endpoint with this flag set enters the conference, it stops the perpetual-audio.


My use case via Icecast is ALMOST just the default moh stream when using wait-mod: