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Mike at Trest.COM
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 Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:54 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Langugae issue |
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Ayman,
One solution is to write an AGI scrip to parse the number and read
back in Arabic semantic order. for the last two digits and for
certain special numbers like 11 , 100 , 1000, ... . I must bring
out my old Arabic language books to do this myself, but if you will
share the language files with the asterisk group, then I will make
an example AGI for you that we can share with the list.
If you are agreeable, let us continue EMAIL messages privately until
we have something working that we can share with the list.
..mike..
At 09:20 AM 3/30/2008, aymen warfalli wrote:
| Quote: | Hi list
I add new directory for Arabic voices support and I 'd translated
all the English voices files into Arabic , with language = ar ,and
it is working fine ,except some problems in saying the number order
,because the Arabic structure is quite different for numbers
,where in English language we can say twenty two while the order
should be two and twenty ,so please if you can guide me how to
change the setting to do that .
regads
Ayman
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anselm at hoffmeister-...
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:16 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Langugae issue |
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Am Sonntag, den 30.03.2008, 09:54 -0400 schrieb Mike Trest - Personal:
| Quote: | Ayman,
One solution is to write an AGI scrip to parse the number and read
back in Arabic semantic order. for the last two digits and for
certain special numbers like 11 , 100 , 1000, ... . I must bring
out my old Arabic language books to do this myself, but if you will
share the language files with the asterisk group, then I will make an
example AGI for you that we can share with the list.
If you are agreeable, let us continue EMAIL messages privately until
we have something working that we can share with the list.
..mike..
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Dear Mike,
for me it seems that this is what say.conf is good for:
http://svn.digium.com/view/asterisk/branches/1.6.0/configs/say.conf.sample?revision=105596&view=markup
(which seems to be considered the "new" format).
Perhaps it would be better to implement Arabic there than by means of an
AGI script. Be sure to check with the developers wether this will be
relevant for Asterisk 1.4 or if you need to go with 1.6 SVN to benefit.
Best regards
Anselm |
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tzafrir.cohen at xorco...
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:23 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Langugae issue |
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On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 05:16:00PM +0200, Anselm Martin Hoffmeister wrote:
| Quote: | Am Sonntag, den 30.03.2008, 09:54 -0400 schrieb Mike Trest - Personal:
| Quote: | Ayman,
One solution is to write an AGI scrip to parse the number and read
back in Arabic semantic order. for the last two digits and for
certain special numbers like 11 , 100 , 1000, ... . I must bring
out my old Arabic language books to do this myself, but if you will
share the language files with the asterisk group, then I will make an
example AGI for you that we can share with the list.
If you are agreeable, let us continue EMAIL messages privately until
we have something working that we can share with the list.
..mike..
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Dear Mike,
for me it seems that this is what say.conf is good for:
http://svn.digium.com/view/asterisk/branches/1.6.0/configs/say.conf.sample?revision=105596&view=markup
(which seems to be considered the "new" format).
Perhaps it would be better to implement Arabic there than by means of an
AGI script. Be sure to check with the developers wether this will be
relevant for Asterisk 1.4 or if you need to go with 1.6 SVN to benefit.
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say.conf works nicely for some languages. I was not able to make
something useful enough with its syntax for Hebrew, and from the little
I know of Arabic syntax, it will share the same problem.
One basic problem is that there's no gender-form parameter anywhere in
the interface.
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Tzafrir Cohen
icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com
+972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com
http://www.xorcom.com iax:guest at local.xorcom.com/tzafrir |
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Mike at Trest.COM
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:12 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Langugae issue |
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Tzafrir, Anselm, and others. Thanks for your comments on my
suggestion to Ayman.
As one who is "familiar, but not-native speaker" with Arabic, Hebrew,
and several other classical Semitic family languages, it would
require much more time to try to fit those into the linear structure
of SAY.CONF than to deal with it in a directly parsed manner. I can
say the same for some Asian languages too. The results would
recognized but would not be culturally acceptable.
OFF TOPIC COMMENTS:
I am constantly amazed at cross-language translations that try to
follow the western language standards in computerized
applications. Historically, the use of numbers came relatively late
to western languages. While I am proud to be an American (as well
as a computer-geek), I have crossed the multi-lingual &
multi-cultural barriers many years back!
END OFF TOPIC COMMENTS.
..mike..
At 11:23 AM 3/30/2008, you wrote:
| Quote: | On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 05:16:00PM +0200, Anselm Martin Hoffmeister wrote:
| Quote: | Am Sonntag, den 30.03.2008, 09:54 -0400 schrieb Mike Trest - Personal:
| Quote: | Ayman,
One solution is to write an AGI scrip to parse the number and read
back in Arabic semantic order. for the last two digits and for
certain special numbers like 11 , 100 , 1000, ... . I must bring
out my old Arabic language books to do this myself, but if you will
share the language files with the asterisk group, then I will make an
example AGI for you that we can share with the list.
If you are agreeable, let us continue EMAIL messages privately until
we have something working that we can share with the list.
..mike..
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Dear Mike,
for me it seems that this is what say.conf is good for:
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http://svn.digium.com/view/asterisk/branches/1.6.0/configs/say.conf.sample?revision=105596&view=markup
| Quote: | (which seems to be considered the "new" format).
Perhaps it would be better to implement Arabic there than by means of an
AGI script. Be sure to check with the developers wether this will be
relevant for Asterisk 1.4 or if you need to go with 1.6 SVN to benefit.
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say.conf works nicely for some languages. I was not able to make
something useful enough with its syntax for Hebrew, and from the little
I know of Arabic syntax, it will share the same problem.
One basic problem is that there's no gender-form parameter anywhere in
the interface.
--
Tzafrir Cohen
icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com
+972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com
http://www.xorcom.com iax:guest at local.xorcom.com/tzafrir
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tzafrir.cohen at xorco...
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:15 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Langugae issue |
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On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 01:12:43PM -0400, Mike Trest - Personal wrote:
| Quote: | Tzafrir, Anselm, and others. Thanks for your comments on my
suggestion to Ayman.
As one who is "familiar, but not-native speaker" with Arabic, Hebrew,
and several other classical Semitic family languages, it would
require much more time to try to fit those into the linear structure
of SAY.CONF than to deal with it in a directly parsed manner. I can
say the same for some Asian languages too. The results would
recognized but would not be culturally acceptable.
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I may be mis-informed, but I believe quite a few western-european
languages actually have exactly the same problem - the need to count in
both a male and a female form.
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Tzafrir Cohen
icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com
+972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com
http://www.xorcom.com iax:guest at local.xorcom.com/tzafrir |
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