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 Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:39 pm Post subject: [asterisk-biz] Potential subject for Friday - Does the Aster |
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Hi Justin, this didn’t really get discussed as I had a client in town this week for the last 4 days so no time to organize.
I’d like to do a properly planned call with someone from Digium, a few potential users of the system (eg software developers who have small apps to sell) and the regular listeners who are potential end users.
I’d also encourage people who think this will be the beginning of the end (eg the closed source naysayers) to be involved as well because it’s their weekly conference call as well and their input has to be taken into account.
My proposal as long as someone from Digium reads this and steps up to the plate is that we hold this call in 2 weeks from today on the 25th of April (I’ll be at a client meeting next Friday).
So if Kevin/Bill/Mark or anyone else from Digium reads this and confirms they are willing to discuss I already have had 3 software developers reach out to say they would like to discuss this as well.
The balls in Digium's court.
Regards,
Dean Collins
Cognation Pty Ltd
dean@cognation.net (dean@cognation.net)+1-212-203-4357 Ph
+61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).
From: asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Justin Newman
Sent: Friday, 11 April 2008 12:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Potential subject for Friday - Does the Asteriskcommunity need a 3rd party commercial software ecosystem?
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subject for Friday - Does the Asterisk community need a 3rd party
commercial software ecosystem? (Dean Collins)
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I want to hear how this goes. Out sick.
I'd definitely be interested in contributing and it's about darn time!
Justin Newman
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From: Dean Collins
Sent: Wednesday, 9 April 2008 11:57 AM
To: 'VOIP-Users-Conference@googlegroups.com'
Cc: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
Discussion'; Ast-biz (asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com)
Subject: RE: [VOIP-Users-Conference] Potential subject for
Friday - Does the Asterisk community need a 3rd party
commercial software ecosystem?
Hi BJ,
Further explanation about the 3rd party ecosystem question
this morning
Cory Andrews from VoIP supply was on the Voip-Users
conference call last week.
I asked the question - how much of VoIP Supply revenue is
product versus applications - he said we don’t sell any
services such as ITSP hosted Asterisk so I replied that
wasn't what I was thinking of and gave the example of Snap
Dialer which is a low cost (I think I paid $20 for it)
application which allows me to dial names from outlook.
I then talked about some of the consulting I did for
Salesforce.com and how they have built an entire ecosystem of
third party applications all built by other people but
utilizing the documented API's and application security etc.
My comments were that although Asterisk should always remain
a free open source application that developers need to eat
and pay rent as well.
If there was some common marketplace that developers could
sell small - low cost third party applications to the
Asterisk community that Digium had some type of
overview/management control over who listed etc that this
would deliver a stream of revenue that would encourage
further application development.
The question I then posed to the group was if anyone knew how
Digium managed the sale and licensing of the G729 codes.
And if this was an open published standard that it could be
used as the basis for the Asterisk ecosystem license model.
Now I know it's not perfect and can be hacked but everything
can be hacked. The idea is to build apps cheap enough that
it's not worth the effort of hacking.
I know there were discussions in Mexuar about how we could
sell (read license) a single channel of the Mexuar Corraleta
application rather than the entire server license for $2000.
Earlier this week I sent an original email to Digium and told
Kevin was responsible for the G729 licenses so I was hoping
that this Friday we could get Kevin and possibly the
developers of Snap Dialer to talk about their current license
models and how they implemented payment systems and also
maybe the developer of FOP to discuss if this was available
to him and he was able to sell a 100 licenses or something
like that a month would this provide an income stream to
support further development etc.
Does this make sense?
Does anyone have any comments or would you like to be
involved with Fridays call?
Regards,
Dean Collins
Cognation Pty Ltd
dean@cognation.net
+1-212-203-4357 Ph
+61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).
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