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mkezys at gmail.com
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 Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 4:15 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] How to do not use Asterisk internal DB for |
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Hello,
We are using Asterisk Realtime and when registering SIP device in current
versions we noticed that:
1. Asterisk internal DB always holds info about registration, e.g.: "show
database" shows something like:
/SIP/Registry/106 :
193.138.yyy.xxx:62501:1800:106:sip:106 at 193.138.yyy.xxx:5060
2. None of the related settings in sip.conf (rtcachefriends, rtsavesysname,
rtupdate, rtautoclear, ignoreexpire) are affecting this behaviour, e.g.
"show database" ALWAYS holds registration info.
3. "fullcontact" field in DB is not populated when rtcachefriends is off.
This behaviour totally ruins dynamic SIP registation when "fullcontact"
should be put into external realtime database.
We are not using sip caching which ruins purpose for realtime.
Question would be:
How to do not use Asterisk internal DB for SIP register and have
"fullcontact" field populated in DB _WITHOUT_ rtcachefriends = yes?
Thank you for your future help.
Regards,
Mindaugas Kezys
http://www.kolmisoft.com |
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greymanvoip at gmail.com
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 5:14 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] How to do not use Asterisk internal DB for |
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Hi,
I don't fully understand your set up, my understanding is that if you
use realtime with the cache settings off you should be fully reliant
on the external db and not use the Asterisk internal db at all.
However that aside in my case I take the registration traffic
completely away from Asterisk and let my customised SIP Registrar
handle it. The SIP Registrar updates the fullcontact and outboundproxy
fields on the realtime database and that provides Asterisk with all
the info it needs to contact the SIP accounts. It also lets Asterisk
concentrate on media operations which it is very good at and offloads
SIP registrations and NAT keep alives which it is poor at.
Regards,
Greyman. |
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greymanvoip at gmail.com
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 7:28 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] How to do not use Asterisk internal DB for |
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On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Mindaugas Kezys <mkezys at gmail.com> wrote:
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To illustrate my question take small client with 1 Asterisk server.
No OpenSER, no other SIP proxy, just plain Asterisk which uses Realtime and
MySQL.
That's very common setup and you tell: "you should be fully reliant on the
external db and not use the Asterisk internal db at all"
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No in that case I would not say use an external SIP Registrar, it's
not worth the effort for a small set up and Asterisk should be able to
cope. If you turn offall the realtime caching settings that will stop
Asterisk using the internal db and result in it relying exclusively on
the external realtime one.
| Quote: | So I want to know, how to do that? How to turn off internal Asterisk DB, and
how to tell Asterisk to update "fullcontact" field in DB when user
registers?
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You shouldn't have to do anything except configure realtime and turn
off the realtime caching settings in sip.conf.
Regards,
Greyman. |
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greymanvoip at gmail.com
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:24 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] How to do not use Asterisk internal DB for |
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Ok could be a bug then. Somebody else that uses the SIP Regsitrar
function with Asterisk and realtime may be able to confirm? |
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atis at iq-labs.net
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:27 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] How to do not use Asterisk internal DB for |
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On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Mindaugas Kezys <mkezys at gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | That's what I'm talking about.
Asterisk 1.4.18.1 and 1.4.20.1 are tested on 3 different servers from clean
install (from sources). (1.4.19 does not work with SIP Realtime at all)
Realtime cashing is OFF (sip.conf rtcachefriends = no). But I still can see
(after device registration):
SIP/Registry/106 :
193.138.yyy.xxx:62501:1800:106:sip:106 at 193.138.yyy.xxx:5060
with "database show" command
"sip show peers" shows nothing
and
"fullcontact" in DB is empty.
(BTW - I cleaned DB with "database deltree SIP/Registry" before
registering.)
What's happening? New bug?
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I checked this in sources, and seems that having "fullcontact" in
realtime table should do the trick and write to realtime engine
instead of Berkeley. However my production server also have
"SIP/Registry" entries filled in, but I have fullcontact in RT
populated too.I have "rtcachefriends" enabled, as realtime SIP peers
aren't really identical to static without cache - no call limit, state
in queues, and lot of other troubles.
Btw, rtcachefriends isn't that bad, you just have to issue "sip prune
realtime peer XXX" after each update in database.
Regards,
Atis
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Regards,
Mindaugas Kezys
http://www.kolmisoft.com
| Quote: | -----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-
bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Grey Man
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 3:28 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] How to do not use Asterisk internal DB
for SIP register?
On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Mindaugas Kezys <mkezys at gmail.com>
wrote:
| Quote: |
To illustrate my question take small client with 1 Asterisk server.
No OpenSER, no other SIP proxy, just plain Asterisk which uses
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Realtime and
| Quote: | MySQL.
That's very common setup and you tell: "you should be fully reliant
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on the
| Quote: | external db and not use the Asterisk internal db at all"
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No in that case I would not say use an external SIP Registrar, it's
not worth the effort for a small set up and Asterisk should be able to
cope. If you turn offall the realtime caching settings that will stop
Asterisk using the internal db and result in it relying exclusively on
the external realtime one.
| Quote: | So I want to know, how to do that? How to turn off internal Asterisk
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DB, and
| Quote: | how to tell Asterisk to update "fullcontact" field in DB when user
registers?
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You shouldn't have to do anything except configure realtime and turn
off the realtime caching settings in sip.conf.
Regards,
Greyman.
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atis at iq-labs.net
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 12:01 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] How to do not use Asterisk internal DB for |
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On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 7:01 PM, Mindaugas Kezys <mkezys at gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I have fullcontact field in DB - it's empty. It's only filled when
rtcacfriends = yes. Same on 3 servers we tested.
Thank you for good idea about sip prune.
In system with several Asterisk servers it should be done over AMI I guess,
or is here better way to do this?
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Yes, manager action "Command: " does the trick. Works reliably
(supposing you prune only when changing something).
If you are willing to follow this up with feedback - i suggest that
you open a bug.
Greetings from Latvia 
Atis
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Best wishes from Lithuania!
Regards,
Mindaugas Kezys
http://www.kolmisoft.com
| Quote: | -----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-
bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Atis Lezdins
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 4:27 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] How to do not use Asterisk internal DB
for SIP register?
On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Mindaugas Kezys <mkezys at gmail.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | That's what I'm talking about.
Asterisk 1.4.18.1 and 1.4.20.1 are tested on 3 different servers from
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clean
| Quote: | install (from sources). (1.4.19 does not work with SIP Realtime at
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all)
| Quote: |
Realtime cashing is OFF (sip.conf rtcachefriends = no). But I still
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can see
| Quote: | (after device registration):
SIP/Registry/106 :
193.138.yyy.xxx:62501:1800:106:sip:106 at 193.138.yyy.xxx:5060
with "database show" command
"sip show peers" shows nothing
and
"fullcontact" in DB is empty.
(BTW - I cleaned DB with "database deltree SIP/Registry" before
registering.)
What's happening? New bug?
|
I checked this in sources, and seems that having "fullcontact" in
realtime table should do the trick and write to realtime engine
instead of Berkeley. However my production server also have
"SIP/Registry" entries filled in, but I have fullcontact in RT
populated too.I have "rtcachefriends" enabled, as realtime SIP peers
aren't really identical to static without cache - no call limit, state
in queues, and lot of other troubles.
Btw, rtcachefriends isn't that bad, you just have to issue "sip prune
realtime peer XXX" after each update in database.
Regards,
Atis
| Quote: |
Regards,
Mindaugas Kezys
http://www.kolmisoft.com
| Quote: | -----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-
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users-
| Quote: | | Quote: | bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Grey Man
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 3:28 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] How to do not use Asterisk internal DB
for SIP register?
On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Mindaugas Kezys <mkezys at gmail.com>
wrote:
| Quote: |
To illustrate my question take small client with 1 Asterisk
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server.
| Quote: | | Quote: | | Quote: |
No OpenSER, no other SIP proxy, just plain Asterisk which uses
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Realtime and
| Quote: | MySQL.
That's very common setup and you tell: "you should be fully
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reliant
| Quote: | | Quote: | on the
| Quote: | external db and not use the Asterisk internal db at all"
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No in that case I would not say use an external SIP Registrar, it's
not worth the effort for a small set up and Asterisk should be able
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to
| Quote: | | Quote: | cope. If you turn offall the realtime caching settings that will
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stop
| Quote: | | Quote: | Asterisk using the internal db and result in it relying exclusively
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on
| Quote: | | Quote: | the external realtime one.
| Quote: | So I want to know, how to do that? How to turn off internal
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Asterisk
| Quote: | | Quote: | DB, and
| Quote: | how to tell Asterisk to update "fullcontact" field in DB when user
registers?
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You shouldn't have to do anything except configure realtime and turn
off the realtime caching settings in sip.conf.
Regards,
Greyman.
_______________________________________________
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Atis Lezdins,
VoIP Project Manager / Developer,
atis at iq-labs.net
Skype: atis.lezdins
Cell Phone: +371 28806004
Cell Phone: +1 800 7300689
Work phone: +1 800 7502835
_______________________________________________
-- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com --
asterisk-users mailing list
To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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_______________________________________________
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asterisk-users mailing list
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Atis Lezdins,
VoIP Project Manager / Developer,
atis at iq-labs.net
Skype: atis.lezdins
Cell Phone: +371 28806004
Cell Phone: +1 800 7300689
Work phone: +1 800 7502835 |
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