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gavin.henry at gmail.com
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 Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 8:49 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk VoIP in Dubai/UAE? |
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Dear All,
We have a customer who is opening a new office in Dubai and we know
that VoIP is blocked over there.
Has anyone a solution to getting VoIP back out (we want interoffice
calls back to the UK)? We we're thinking of IAX trunking, but not sure
if that is blocked or just SIP etc.
A VPN works, but is not great. We have seen:
http://www.speed-voip.com/voiceguard.html
At the moment it is a very small satellite office with one user, but
will be bigger soon. Ideally, some kind of embedded * product that can
also provide ADSL connectivity would be perfect.
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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gavin.henry at gmail.com
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 9:11 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk VoIP in Dubai/UAE? |
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| Quote: | | Quote: | We have a customer who is opening a new office in Dubai and we know
that VoIP is blocked over there.
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Hrm. As in a "great firewall of Dubai" (akin to the great firewall of
China)? I didn't know they were doing that over there.
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Yes, so we are told.
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| Quote: | A VPN works, but is not great.
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Interesting. I wouldn't dream of carrying business voice over the open
Internet any more than I'd allow business data over the open Internet.
IOW, a VPN would (should) be a requirement, not an impediment.
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Agreed.
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zoachien at securax.org
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 9:12 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk VoIP in Dubai/UAE? |
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The big issue is not getting around it. (IAX seems to work afaik) but
the legal status.
Meaning, if you risk going to jail over it, will you still consider it ? 
Zoa
Gavin Henry wrote:
| Quote: | Dear All,
We have a customer who is opening a new office in Dubai and we know
that VoIP is blocked over there.
Has anyone a solution to getting VoIP back out (we want interoffice
calls back to the UK)? We we're thinking of IAX trunking, but not sure
if that is blocked or just SIP etc.
A VPN works, but is not great. We have seen:
http://www.speed-voip.com/voiceguard.html
At the moment it is a very small satellite office with one user, but
will be bigger soon. Ideally, some kind of embedded * product that can
also provide ADSL connectivity would be perfect.
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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gavin.henry at gmail.com
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 9:32 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk VoIP in Dubai/UAE? |
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| Quote: | The big issue is not getting around it. (IAX seems to work afaik) but
the legal status.
Meaning, if you risk going to jail over it, will you still consider it ?
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We are checking the legal status of it being blocked vs being banned.
Thanks for the reminder though.
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faraz.khan at emergen.biz
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 11:47 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk VoIP in Dubai/UAE? |
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It is banned AND illegal. However the shaikh recently intervened to
allow VOIP connections WITHIN UAE. If you bypass Etisalat's money for
outbound international calls (I think UAE is MOST expensive in the
region) they can take away your building permit (from the owner of the
building in which your office is housed).
This is as far as I know. Things may have changed. Idiotic governments
do eventually learn.
On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 15:32 +0100, Gavin Henry wrote:
| Quote: | | Quote: | The big issue is not getting around it. (IAX seems to work afaik) but
the legal status.
Meaning, if you risk going to jail over it, will you still consider it ?
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We are checking the legal status of it being blocked vs being banned.
Thanks for the reminder though.
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gavin.henry at gmail.com
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 3:04 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk VoIP in Dubai/UAE? |
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2008/5/29 Faraz R. Khan <faraz.khan at emergen.biz>:
| Quote: | It is banned AND illegal. However the shaikh recently intervened to
allow VOIP connections WITHIN UAE. If you bypass Etisalat's money for
outbound international calls (I think UAE is MOST expensive in the
region) they can take away your building permit (from the owner of the
building in which your office is housed).
This is as far as I know. Things may have changed. Idiotic governments
do eventually learn.
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Our client informs us it's not allowed over the public network but is
ok over a VPN.
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faraz.khan at emergen.biz
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 3:27 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk VoIP in Dubai/UAE? |
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| Quote: | Our client informs us it's not allowed over the public network but is
ok over a VPN.
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By vpn do they mean dedicated bandwidth from the ISP? Thats the way it works in Pakistan as well,
point being that you pay a LOT for the dedicated VPN. I'm guessing this VPN is not the same as running
openvpn over the internet?
Basically you cannot use the internet and have to pay etisalat lots of
money right? or have they changed?
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abalashov at evaristes...
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 3:07 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk VoIP in Dubai/UAE? |
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Gavin Henry wrote:
| Quote: | 2008/5/29 Faraz R. Khan <faraz.khan at emergen.biz>:
| Quote: | It is banned AND illegal. However the shaikh recently intervened to
allow VOIP connections WITHIN UAE. If you bypass Etisalat's money for
outbound international calls (I think UAE is MOST expensive in the
region) they can take away your building permit (from the owner of the
building in which your office is housed).
This is as far as I know. Things may have changed. Idiotic governments
do eventually learn.
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Our client informs us it's not allowed over the public network but is
ok over a VPN.
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And from any sort of policymaking perspective, what is the difference
between the public network and a VPN built over that public network,
save an additional layer of encapsulation / "different format for the
VoIP data"?
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joakimsen at gmail.com
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk VoIP in Dubai/UAE? |
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When the communications infrastructure is controlled by the government
it means loss of revenue if they allow it over the public internet.
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Alex Balashov
<abalashov at evaristesys.com> wrote:
| Quote: | And from any sort of policymaking perspective, what is the difference
between the public network and a VPN built over that public network,
save an additional layer of encapsulation / "different format for the
VoIP data"?
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